# \[Megathread\] BFV and Cheating Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 25, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326 "2019-09-25T16:59:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![OP\_Glitchmobile](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/op_glitchmobile/32/103031_2.png) [@OP\_Glitchmobile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OP_Glitchmobile)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 2:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/361 "2020-01-19T14:08:00Z")
Hiding under a rock doesn’t really help, DICE\EA…you have to DO SOMETHING.. ---
**Author:** ![rorypreston](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@rorypreston](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rorypreston)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 2:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/362 "2020-01-19T14:08:00Z")
![image](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/1/e/1ead29d3e0f41071dbd9183ed32b59a80a2ea337.png) ---
**Author:** ![MopeRush](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@MopeRush](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MopeRush)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/363 "2020-01-19T14:22:00Z")
Met cheater. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dr_steamfur/32/106628_2.png) [@Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Dr_Steamfur)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/364 "2020-01-19T15:58:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#): > > > [@Rattoner](#): > > > > (Quote) > > Except that you can not know that for sure, and if they were they would obviously deny it. Please give us a better explanation then as to why DICE/EA completely disregards any form of anti-cheat for BFV. We know fairfight does not work as rage hacking aim botters that were botting months ago still play the game today. > > > > Do you even know where cheats come from? Most of them come from game developers. > > “Any type of discussion suggesting it is asinine” > > Dont make me say it again. I won’t acknowledge you any more on that subject. > > Let’s not mention some of your uploads are extremely inconclusive. I would suggest that any type of discussion suggesting it is simply another one of the branch of very real possibilities that needs to be considered. From a scientific perspective. As far as my videos. You would be incorrect, you simply do not know what to look for. Heck your own stats are very…lets say up for debate. ---
**Author:** ![MachoFantast1c0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/machofantast1c0/32/100978_2.png) [@MachoFantast1c0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MachoFantast1c0)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/365 "2020-01-19T16:24:00Z")
> [@Rattoner](#): > > (Quote) > I would suggest that any type of discussion suggesting it is simply another one of the branch of very real possibilities that needs to be considered. From a scientific perspective. > > As far as my videos. You would be incorrect, you simply do not know what to look for. Heck your own stats are very…lets say up for debate. Are you sure you wanna go there? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dr_steamfur/32/106628_2.png) [@Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Dr_Steamfur)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/366 "2020-01-19T16:53:00Z")
> [@MachoFantast1c0](#): > > > [@Rattoner](#): > > > > (Quote) > > I would suggest that any type of discussion suggesting it is simply another one of the branch of very real possibilities that needs to be considered. From a scientific perspective. > > > > As far as my videos. You would be incorrect, you simply do not know what to look for. Heck your own stats are very…lets say up for debate. > > Are you sure you wanna go there? Until DICE decides to give us a legitimate reason as to why they refuse to implement a working anti-cheat, I see no reason not to consider the other possibilities. I fully expect that the theory is incorrect but what else do we have to go on? As I have asked other forum members (and have yet to get a reply), please explain to me why DICE has been silent on the issue of cheating for over a year now. What is their reason (as far as you can determine) for not implementing a working anti-cheat? ---
**Author:** ![Udonsushi1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Udonsushi1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Udonsushi1)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/367 "2020-01-19T16:53:00Z")
Dice and EA instead of adding more maps and others things they should join all their staff to create some stuff to avoid cheaters or to kick out cheaters or to dont allow any player with any kind of cheating software or hardware to join a server or a game, it is just impossible to find 1 server just 1 server without any of this cheaters that make game become boring, everyday more ppl stop playing this game that its awesome but cant be played coz all the hackers, cheaters with aimbots, with instant kill, with spotters , they know everytime where are you, they kill through the walls , they kill with 1 shot even with side arms from far away, they know where you are, apart from the airplanes that they are all the time bombing and killing ridiculous amount of players , the antiaircraft are impossible to use, you need to shoot the airplane with a lot of ammunition but the airplane drop 1 bomb only 1 time and you are done thats the reason why airplanes pilot laugh about ppl trying to kill them. i have been loyal since Battlefield 1, 2,3,4 all in play station and now 5 in Pc but this is impossible to play , sad thing is that some ppl like me save hard earn money to buy the right to play the game and after spending the money realized that is full of cheaters and hackers and the developers of the game doesnt take the time to really do something effective to avoid this problem. Vanning accounts of cheaters is not the solution, coz they make a new account in seconds with different name and start cheating again , ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dr_steamfur/32/106628_2.png) [@Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Dr_Steamfur)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/368 "2020-01-19T16:53:00Z")
> [@A\_al\_K\_pacino\_A](#): > > > [@Rattoner](#): > > > > > [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#): > > > > > > Tinfoil train at it again I see. > > > They do not sell cheats. Any type of discussion suggesting that is asinine and should be removed. > > > > Except that you can not know that for sure, and if they were they would obviously deny it. Please give us a better explanation then as to why DICE/EA completely disregards any form of anti-cheat for BFV. We know fairfight does not work as rage hacking aim botters that were botting months ago still play the game today. > > > > Do you even know where cheats come from? Most of them come from game developers. > > Think for a second. If EA were selling cheats, which they aren’t, how long would the company last when the news got out? > > One whistleblower or one of the many journalists out there looking into this sort of thing and the company would be in court for years, paying out billions and never selling another game again. It’s just daft thinking. All the more reason to be cautious with it. But hey, we are all just looking for a legitimate response from DICE as to why they feel there is no reason to implement an anti-cheat into BFV. Conspiracy theories would easily be quelled if they did. So let me ask you. What is your feeling as to why DICE has failed to implement a working anti-cheat? ---
**Author:** ![OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskooi_007/32/103046_2.png) [@OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OskooI_007)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/369 "2020-01-19T16:59:00Z")
> [@MachoFantast1c0](#): > > You have been saying that for three years now. You are in top-15 for infantry kills on BF1. I’d say cheaters are not a deal-breaker for you. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and posit PS5 is not gonna rock your boat, just like PS4 didn’t. It’s true. I bought a PS4 Pro and Xbox X, but took them both back to the store for a refund. I’ve bought the XIM mouse adapter 3 times, and also sent that back for refunds. Lol. It’s tough giving up a locked 140fps on a 165hz Gsync monitor. The bad thing about XIM is it causes stuttering if the game’s frame rate isn’t perfectly locked at 60fps. And my God does PS4 have frame rate drops and Vsync stutter. It sent me crying back to my PC. ---
**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd_tv/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd_TV)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/370 "2020-01-19T17:27:00Z")
> [@OskooI\_007](#): > > > [@MachoFantast1c0](#): > > > > You have been saying that for three years now. You are in top-15 for infantry kills on BF1. I’d say cheaters are not a deal-breaker for you. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and posit PS5 is not gonna rock your boat, just like PS4 didn’t. > > It’s true. I bought a PS4 Pro and Xbox X, but took them both back to the store for a refund. I’ve bought the XIM mouse adapter 3 times, and also sent that back for refunds. Lol. > > It’s tough giving up a locked 140fps on a 165hz Gsync monitor. > > The bad thing about XIM is it causes stuttering if the game’s frame rate isn’t perfectly locked at 60fps. And my God does PS4 have frame rate drops and Vsync stutter. > > It sent me crying back to my PC. I see no reason to switch tbh. Cross play is now going to be a standard at this point. The Xbox hardly gives me any interest if the rumor mill states it will have steam and the epic games store. Just not a worthwhile buy to me. Cheaters are annoying but a properly monitored game aint gonna hurt me none I tell u wut. ---
**Author:** ![MachoFantast1c0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/machofantast1c0/32/100978_2.png) [@MachoFantast1c0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MachoFantast1c0)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/371 "2020-01-19T17:43:00Z")
> [@OskooI\_007](#): > > > [@MachoFantast1c0](#): > > > > You have been saying that for three years now. You are in top-15 for infantry kills on BF1. I’d say cheaters are not a deal-breaker for you. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and posit PS5 is not gonna rock your boat, just like PS4 didn’t. > > It’s true. I bought a PS4 Pro and Xbox X, but took them both back to the store for a refund. I’ve bought the XIM mouse adapter 3 times, and also sent that back for refunds. Lol. > > It’s tough giving up a locked 140fps on a 165hz Gsync monitor. > > The bad thing about XIM is it causes stuttering if the game’s frame rate isn’t perfectly locked at 60fps. And my God does PS4 have frame rate drops and Vsync stutter. > > It sent me crying back to my PC. I know I wouldn’t cope with it, so I won’t even try. Just built new rigs for both my sons. Younger has been playing BF1 with me. ---
**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd_tv/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd_TV)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/372 "2020-01-19T17:56:00Z")
> [@Rattoner](#): > > (Quote) > > As far as my videos. You would be incorrect, you simply do not know what to look for. Heck your own stats are very…lets say up for debate. Interesting hot take hopefully those 10 -15 tick spectate videos help track micro adjustments, client smoke and labored twitching. Oh wait lets not mention the sheer amount of garbage interpolation from server to client. Oh and you dont want to go there on stats. I stream every single game I play on bf. If you want to see how completely inaccurate spectator mode is you could use me or any other streamer like daz /stodeh as an example. All past broadcast are available. Just find the server name and spectate ---
**Author:** ![DancesWthMice](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@DancesWthMice](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DancesWthMice)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/373 "2020-01-19T18:45:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#): > > > [@Rattoner](#): > > > > (Quote) > > > > As far as my videos. You would be incorrect, you simply do not know what to look for. Heck your own stats are very…lets say up for debate. > > Interesting hot take hopefully those 10 -15 tick spectate videos help track micro adjustments, client smoke and labored twitching. Oh wait lets not mention the sheer amount of garbage interpolation from server to client. > > Oh and you dont want to go there on stats. I stream every single game I play on bf. If you want to see how completely inaccurate spectator mode is you could use me or any other streamer like daz /stodeh as an example. All past broadcast are available. > > Just find the server name and spectate Spectator mode is a complete waste of time. It will only reveal the most obvious of cheats, which ironically, are obvious without spectating. Whatever you see going on with a players crosshairs while spectating, is not what is happening in real time. Once you start recording your own game play it becomes clear. ---
**Author:** ![DancesWthMice](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@DancesWthMice](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DancesWthMice)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/374 "2020-01-19T19:01:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#): > > Tinfoil train at it again I see. > They do not sell cheats. Any type of discussion suggesting that is asinine and should be removed. And that would be VERY hard secret to keep. They say that two people can keep a secret…so long as one of them is dead ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dr_steamfur/32/106628_2.png) [@Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Dr_Steamfur)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/375 "2020-01-19T19:22:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#): > > > [@Rattoner](#): > > > > (Quote) > > > > As far as my videos. You would be incorrect, you simply do not know what to look for. Heck your own stats are very…lets say up for debate. > > Interesting hot take hopefully those 10 -15 tick spectate videos help track micro adjustments, client smoke and labored twitching. Oh wait lets not mention the sheer amount of garbage interpolation from server to client. > > Oh and you dont want to go there on stats. I stream every single game I play on bf. If you want to see how completely inaccurate spectator mode is you could use me or any other streamer like daz /stodeh as an example. All past broadcast are available. > > Just find the server name and spectate Streaming means ZERO…let me say that again. ZERO. The hacks are built in to ensure that they are not captured while streaming. Everyone knows this, so that argument is tired and old…its almost as if you are standing up for the cheaters. As far as “how inaccurate spectator mode is” is yet ANOTHER argument from cheaters. I watched Taveraco the other night on stream for an hour, I also recorded him for an hour. Twitch and Spectator were synced within .25 of a second. They were indistinguishable. Spectator is a LOT more accurate than you think it is. When it syncs perfectly with twitch you have to change your argument. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/376 "2020-01-19T21:32:00Z")
> [@Rattoner](#): > > > [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#): > > > > > [@Rattoner](#): > > > > > > (Quote) > > > > > > As far as my videos. You would be incorrect, you simply do not know what to look for. Heck your own stats are very…lets say up for debate. > > > > Interesting hot take hopefully those 10 -15 tick spectate videos help track micro adjustments, client smoke and labored twitching. Oh wait lets not mention the sheer amount of garbage interpolation from server to client. > > > > Oh and you dont want to go there on stats. I stream every single game I play on bf. If you want to see how completely inaccurate spectator mode is you could use me or any other streamer like daz /stodeh as an example. All past broadcast are available. > > > > Just find the server name and spectate > > Streaming means ZERO…let me say that again. ZERO. The hacks are built in to ensure that they are not captured while streaming. Everyone knows this, so that argument is tired and old…its almost as if you are standing up for the cheaters. > > As far as “how inaccurate spectator mode is” is yet ANOTHER argument from cheaters. I watched Taveraco the other night on stream for an hour, I also recorded him for an hour. Twitch and Spectator were synced within .25 of a second. They were indistinguishable. Spectator is a LOT more accurate than you think it is. When it syncs perfectly with twitch you have to change your argument. You can’t use that as an argument. You can enable a stream delay and if you set the delay just right, you can make the spectator delay and twitch be in sync as if it was almost realtime. So nope, he isn’t standing up for cheaters. ---
**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd_tv/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd_TV)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/377 "2020-01-19T22:42:00Z")
> [@Rattoner](#): > > > [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#): > > > > > [@Rattoner](#): > > > > > > [»] > > > (Quote) > > > > > > As far as my videos. You would be incorrect, you simply do not know what to look for. Heck your own stats are very…lets say up for debate. > > > > Interesting hot take hopefully those 10 -15 tick spectate videos help track micro adjustments, client smoke and labored twitching. Oh wait lets not mention the sheer amount of garbage interpolation from server to client. > > > > Oh and you dont want to go there on stats. I stream every single game I play on bf. If you want to see how completely inaccurate spectator mode is you could use me or any other streamer like daz /stodeh as an example. All past broadcast are available. > > > > Just find the server name and spectate > > Streaming means ZERO…let me say that again. ZERO. The hacks are built in to ensure that they are not captured while streaming. Everyone knows this, so that argument is tired and old…its almost as if you are standing up for the cheaters. > > As far as “how inaccurate spectator mode is” is yet ANOTHER argument from cheaters. I watched Taveraco the other night on stream for an hour, I also recorded him for an hour. Twitch and Spectator were synced within .25 of a second. They were indistinguishable. Spectator is a LOT more accurate than you think it is. When it syncs perfectly with twitch you have to change your argument. I don’t think you’re understanding what i’m telling you. That’s fine i wont go any further as i can see its out of your scope. If i were really defending cheating i highly doubt i would be complaining in this thread about spin botting in the several responses i made early and late in this thread. Side tracking the cheating conversation with tin foil “theories” isn’t helping (not that DICE/EA will elaborate on there process) I’ve seen plenty of companies take the silent route. This is nothing new in my 23 years of fps experience. If companies were really making cheats for there games that would be gaming news of the decade. Extremely unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Jinko\_itx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/f14d63/32.png) [@Jinko\_itx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jinko_itx)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/378 "2020-01-20T04:19:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#): > > Tinfoil train at it again I see. > They do not sell cheats. Any type of discussion suggesting that is asinine and should be removed. I bet you that they sure turn a blind eye since its obvious that EA has no anti anything for protection, EA may ban such a fraction, and that is only if enough ppl report a blatant cheater, a very obvious cheater but besides that, they have free rein to perfect the cheating in this game, I see more names with cheating in the name it is so easy to cheat in this game…very sad ---
**Author:** ![Lancelot\_du\_Lac](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lancelot_du_lac/32/106862_2.png) [@Lancelot\_du\_Lac](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lancelot_du_Lac)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 4:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/379 "2020-01-20T04:24:00Z")
> [@Rattoner](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > As I have asked other forum members (and have yet to get a reply), please explain to me why DICE has been silent on the issue of cheating for over a year now. What is their reason (as far as you can determine) for not implementing a working anti-cheat? see my post on page 76 of this thread ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dr_steamfur/32/106628_2.png) [@Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Dr_Steamfur)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/380 "2020-01-20T04:25:00Z")
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