# \[Megathread\] BFV and Cheating Discussion

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 25, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326 "2019-09-25T16:59:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/dec6dc/32.png) [@VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VOLBANKER)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 3:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/21 "2019-09-27T03:26:00Z")

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First of all: Thank you EA for making this thread. In the last couple of monthly surveys I personally have requested the ability to discuss cheating on these forums, and I suppose others have too. It’s great to see you guys act on the feedback. Thanks!

As for cheating, I think the size of the problem is being vastly overestimated by a lot of players.  
I squad with a guy who is a former FPS pro gamer, and in almost every single round he is accused of cheating.  
Lots of “average Joe” players I think are not aware how absolutely crazy good some people are at the game.  
I do not mean this in an arrogant way; I am an average Joe player myself.

Suggestion:

It would be helpful I think if EA/DICE could facilitate some kind of master class to educate people on how good some people just are.

Example: Place video cameras in the same room as a super skilled player and then record while that player plays a full round of Conquest or whatever. Then make a Youtube video with the full recording.  
EDIT: Cameras are to show 100% proof that the player is not using cheats.

The goal would be to educate us players of how insanely fast the best players can react + how they know exactly where to look for enemies, how they are aware of spawn points of the map etc.

Hopefully a project like that would mean people in-game would be more inclined to accept they simply died to a better player instead of almost automatically yelling cheater on chat.

PS. This is not meant to say there are no cheaters in BFV. Obviously there is. But just as it is a problem when someone is cheating, it is also a problem when an honest player gets wrongly accused of cheating. For the very good players this happens almost every round. Imagine if it was you that was wrongly accused almost every round. Can you see how annoying and unfair that must feel like?

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/22 "2019-10-02T22:04:00Z")

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- _ **Don’t name & shame other players** _
- Be constructive

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**Author:** ![Mywk\_Live](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mywk_live/32/112812_2.png) [@Mywk\_Live](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Mywk_Live)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/23 "2019-10-03T00:16:00Z")

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Battle-Eye, yes it’s going to cost EA some cash.. and eliminate more than 90% of the cheaters.

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**Author:** ![STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/STOPchris)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/24 "2019-10-03T00:25:00Z")

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> [@Mywk\_Live](#):
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> Battle-Eye, yes it’s going to cost EA some cash.. and eliminate more than 90% of the cheaters.

Which, wont happen.

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/fordprefect/32/112778_2.png) [@FordPrefect](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/25 "2019-10-03T01:38:00Z")

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Hoped in a game today, for the first time in a while since the game has been pretty much broken. And I was greeted with the second reason I wish I never bought this game. Two Hackers. So I used the proper channels and reported them, and left to find a new game. Found two more hackers, except this time one was on my team. I repeated the process three more times before I just got off entirely. Your game isn’t fun, your reporting system is useless and cumbersome to use, and you have failed me for the last time. This is the last Battlefield game I will ever buy.

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**Author:** ![VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/dec6dc/32.png) [@VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VOLBANKER)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/26 "2019-10-03T02:00:00Z")

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So the EA guy writes the opening post of this thread and then goes completely silent.

Right.

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**Author:** ![Jinko\_itx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/f14d63/32.png) [@Jinko\_itx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jinko_itx)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/27 "2019-10-03T02:33:00Z")

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> [@STOPchris](#):
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> > [@Mywk\_Live](#):
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> > Battle-Eye, yes it’s going to cost EA some cash.. and eliminate more than 90% of the cheaters.
> 
> Which, wont happen.

they should of implemented Battleye or Easy Anti-Cheat earlier in the year while there was still the BF Hardcorers around and the population was higher…

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**Author:** ![XxChunky\_FreakxX](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/5f9b8f/32.png) [@XxChunky\_FreakxX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/XxChunky_FreakxX)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 3:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/28 "2019-10-03T03:00:00Z")

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Quick thing

With this new update, I’m rather sure I’m experiencing a big of some kind. Upon trying to customize one of my company units, (recon) the game then applied my chosen cosmetics to all my company classes.

I have checked my settings, and class mirroring is turned off,

(tho that shouldn’t effect cosmetics of the same company only weapon loadouts of the opposite faction)

I’m curious to know if anyone else is having the issue, if it’s a big, or if there was an added setting that I am unable to find.

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 3:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/29 "2019-10-03T03:26:00Z")

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@XxChunky_FreakxX  
Maybe post in your own thread, Your post here is WAY off topic

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**Author:** ![STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/STOPchris)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 4:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/30 "2019-10-03T04:12:00Z")

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> [@VOLBANKER](#):
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> So the EA guy writes the opening post of this thread and then goes completely silent.
> 
> Right.

This thread was literally because they keep getting cheaters threads popping up and then having to close them down. These threads serve as one location to dump what they don’t want to hear into. If you think there will be any change to the way EA deals with cheaters in this game, well you are VERY optimistic at best.

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**Author:** ![zerweast](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/bc8723/32.png) [@zerweast](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zerweast)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 5:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/31 "2019-10-03T05:42:00Z")

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Isnt this thread proof that this cheating issue is the biggest problem of all?

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**Author:** ![Tosasan\_HUN](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@Tosasan\_HUN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Tosasan_HUN)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 7:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/32 "2019-10-03T07:34:00Z")

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today morning 4 server in row have cheaters hwos not hide i give up today. tell me why have a report system and why i make videos from oblivius cheater if i say vlad i think many player know what i say. i report a cheater yesterday now i meet him again and report him 2 time because he ruin 1 server everyone leave and he come unfortunatly the same server were i m. i leave it again another cheater i leave this server too and the 4th is got 2 more oblivius cheater. i soo angry now i end it before i got ban.

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**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 8:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/33 "2019-10-03T08:05:00Z")

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> [@XxChunky\_FreakxX](#):
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> Quick thing
> 
> With this new update, I’m rather sure I’m experiencing a big of some kind. Upon trying to customize one of my company units, (recon) the game then applied my chosen cosmetics to all my company classes.
> 
> I have checked my settings, and class mirroring is turned off,
> 
> (tho that shouldn’t effect cosmetics of the same company only weapon loadouts of the opposite faction)
> 
> I’m curious to know if anyone else is having the issue, if it’s a big, or if there was an added setting that I am unable to find.

Off topic but the reason for that is because customisation is now tied to characters. If you want your classes to look different now then you need to select a different character model for each.

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**Author:** ![JONxJITSU](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@JONxJITSU](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JONxJITSU)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/34 "2019-10-03T15:06:00Z")

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I’m here to throw my hat in to the ring. Battlefield 4, 1 and V are dead to me now. The amount of cheaters are just out of hand. If you have a simple understanding on how to spot a “Legit Cheater” you will be able to spot at least 5 people per match. The reporting system is just horrendous and pointless.

I have a discord buddy who plays and he screen shared how easy it is to get cheats and to cheat. He just make 3 clicks to download it, opened it up and this hack had its own menu where you could select which cheat you wanted to use, no recoil, wire frame, wallhack…etc and there wasnt anything put in to place to stop him nor nothing to instil fear of being banned…I was shocked. and the version he downloaded had already been downloaded by 500 ppl and it just came out on Sept 26!!1

I have no idea what can be done, but something has to be done or else I wont be buying the next Battlefield. I feel like a jackass spending 112$ for this game and around the same for the previous ones.

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**Author:** ![JCap334](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@JCap334](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JCap334)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/35 "2019-10-03T15:07:00Z")

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> [@orangesmooothie](#):
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> I’ve played nearly all the battlefields (mostly bc2 bf3 bf4) and you would get the rare hacker here and there and have a laugh at how blatant they are.  
> But the amount of cheaters in battlefield 5 is just completely out of control and downright comical. Literally every 2nd game there is a blatant cheater from asia which you can tell by their ping and names. They also will gloat about the hacks and how they can’t be stopped.
> 
> Introduce a vote kick, make reporting of cheater quicker and simpler, please! So many people don’t even know how to report a hacker playing on the server.
> 
> I’m done playing until at least something is attempted to curb the cheats.

It’s absolutely ridiculous how much cheating is going on in this game. I’ve seen more cheating in BFV than all previous BF games combined TENFOLD!

However, I do not agree with a votekick because that system could be abused against legit good players and/or to bully other players. I have been a victim of a votekick back in my BF3 days a few times because people thought I was cheating.

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**Author:** ![duendemago](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/duendemago/32/106637_2.png) [@duendemago](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/duendemago)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/36 "2019-10-03T17:05:00Z")

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This thread seems to indicate that Dice and EA are listening. I hope you guys pass from listening to taking impecable and strong measures against cheating.Since BF2 to the date I really never encountered a cheater until now!!! So what can you say are the differences between that line of time and now? Why everyone is encountering cheaters, more than never before in this beautiful saga? In less than 2 weeks I have encountered cheaters with aimbot and wallhack but also I encountered a ver weird cheat, hope someone can confirm if Im wrong:  
-For no reason when you wanted to spawn at C or D flag of Hamada map you insta deploy in parachute and that insta kill you with aimbot…couldn’t confirm if this was the case in other flags because most of them were taken and I didn’t take the time to deal with such a low cheat…for me THIS WAS A VERY SERIOUS CHEAT.

Hope you guys take some serious measures against these no self love human beings.

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**Author:** ![STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/STOPchris)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/37 "2019-10-03T21:57:00Z")

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Too many issue with this game. Even if they fixed the cheating problem (which they will NEVER do), there is still the balance and team stacking issues (which they will also NEVER fix). They game just isn’t fun because of all its flaws. I am sure that when CoD comes out, this game will die hard.

EDIT: Forgot one, all the invisible walls and rocks in the game. Where you clearly have a shot and instead, you are hitting an invisible object.

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**Author:** ![zerweast](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/bc8723/32.png) [@zerweast](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zerweast)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 4:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/38 "2019-10-04T04:52:00Z")

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> [@STOPchris](#):
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> Too many issue with this game. Even if they fixed the cheating problem (which they will NEVER do), there is still the balance and team stacking issues (which they will also NEVER fix). They game just isn’t fun because of all its flaws. I am sure that when CoD comes out, this game will die hard.
> 
> EDIT: Forgot one, all the invisible walls and rocks in the game. Where you clearly have a shot and instead, you are hitting an invisible object.

The current cheat in fashion is headshots from planes. At this stage, cheating is an artform, they r trying to outperform each other on style points

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**Author:** ![jroggs](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jroggs/32/106829_2.png) [@jroggs](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jroggs)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 4:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/39 "2019-10-04T04:59:00Z")

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> [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> (Quote)  
> As mentioned in the OP.
> 
> This is not the place for video content featuring cheaters, regardless of the fact that you have hidden the names.
> 
> The only place your cheat videos should be sent to, Is the box you fill out when you are in process of reporting them.
> 
> Our duty is to enforce the rules and also to assist with issues such as game crashes and the likes.

Maybe this should be clarified, then. Where does it say in the OP that videos that are not permitted in this thread, especially when they do do not violate N&S or any other forum rules? Which rule was enforced by removing his video?

An EA representative created this thread ostensibly so we could have a constructive discussion about cheating issues. I would argue that a critical foundation of this discussion is establishing what cheating looks like, what it is and what it isn’t. But frankly this thread is starting to feel like a quarantine that only exists to stem the constant other threads created about cheating. That isn’t constructive.

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**Author:** ![GenCuster](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gencuster/32/102049_2.png) [@GenCuster](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GenCuster)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 5:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/40 "2019-10-04T05:50:00Z")

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```auto
Operation Underground ....
It's the new festival of shooting in the smoke .....
I can't make out,
if those who shoot in the smoke do so by calculating that there are points of concentration,
and hope to hit someone at random.
or, I think more realistic ...
that many "SEE" through smoking.

```

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