# \[Megathread\] BFV and Cheating Discussion

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 25, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326 "2019-09-25T16:59:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/7cd45c/32.png) [@NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NN_Buzz12)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/621 "2020-04-04T21:21:00Z")

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> [@TyroneLoyd](#):
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> > [@NN\_Buzz12](#):
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> > > [@JCap334](#):
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> > > (Quote)  
> > > I played BF4 since release up until BF1 was released. According to Origin, I logged 1030 hours of playtime. I mainly played TDM on various clan servers. I can count on 1 hand how many times I saw a blatant aimbotter in BF4. I’m guessing the issue happened more on Conquest servers. In BFV, which I’ve logged 1002 hours, I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen blatant raging aimbotting with players going like 76 - 0 in 1 round of TDM. Off the top of my head I’d say I’ve have hundreds of rounds dealing with a cheater. At this point, with an expected release of the next BF game by November, it’s too late for EA/DICE to give their PC playerbase any confidence that they are doing anything more than they’ve been doing to combat cheating.
> > > 
> > > I don’t agree with votekick because that can be abused. They just need a robust anti-cheat that runs clientside that INSTANTLY PERMANENTLY bans a player when a cheat is detected.
> > 
> > Wrap your mind around the fact that the anti cheat system either doesn’t exist or is so weak it’s useless.
> > 
> > So what are the options?
> > 
> > Has EA implemented or fixed the anti cheat program? No.
> > 
> > Has EA implemented servers that the community will support? No.
> > 
> > That means EA wants you to play amongst cheaters that have a great advantage over honest customers. Either enjoy the game with both arm’s restrained or desperately ask for anything to help remove violators from the playing field.
> > 
> > Like it or not, vote kick seems like an easy bandaid. If you fall victim to a vote kick too bad. There are thousands of players that won’t and they thank you for helping to improve the game.
> 
> You act like dice is even capable of adding a vote kick system lol

EA has implemented a voluntary vote kick by letting these cheaters run unchecked.

I voted and kicked myself than made it a permanent ban once I could see EA didn’t care. The uninstall felt good.

EA and the cheaters are a perfect match.

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**Author:** ![Netranger9](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/netranger9/32/102119_2.png) [@Netranger9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Netranger9)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/622 "2020-04-04T22:05:00Z")

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What we all need to do is kick this company so hard that not even google can find them,and the only way to do that is DO NOT PREORDER or buy the next BF.EA/Dice have to know that this no anticheat rubbish is not going to fly.I love the BF series as much as the next guy(I am probably the worst player in history lol),but I still enjoy it and with some decent anticheat(SPEND THE MONEY EA/Dice),it could be great again.

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 1:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/623 "2020-04-05T01:11:00Z")

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@FritzCT

It doesn’t matter if you’re giving the link as an example and you’re fully aware that it violates the rules.. My question is, Why post it KNOWING that it’s a violation?

Mind = blown…

I have of course removed it due to it being a violation of the rules.

This is not the place to be giving accounts unwanted attention, TOS is where you need to send it via a cheat report.

So please don’t do it again.

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**Author:** ![EXILE157](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/exile157/32/101894_2.png) [@EXILE157](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EXILE157)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 8:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/624 "2020-04-05T08:12:00Z")

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[LOLGotYerTags] said:

> [@EXILE157](#):
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> > [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> > > [@EXILE157](#):
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> > > > BFV has been the worse BF game launch to this day!
> > 
> > You must not have been around for BF4’s launch then, That had a bug on siege that crashed the entire client to the desktop as soon as the central building was destroyed.
> 
> Please, that Levolution Feature that was added to BF4 was just temporary on that specific map and that doesn’t justify all the bs that everyone is going through today 4/3/2020 on BFV.
> 
> I’ve been around and actually tested all BF games because that’s what we are, real TESTERS. All you haven’t been around actually gaming on any BF Series compared to us loyal customers.

Mods can be loyal customers too, you know.

I have :

- Bad company 2
- BF1942 and expansions
- BF2
- BF3
- BF4
- BF hardline
- BF1
- BFV.

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**Author:** ![Major\_Pungspark](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Major\_Pungspark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Major_Pungspark)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 9:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/625 "2020-04-05T09:33:00Z")

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I guess we all have have different ideas of playable;  
game starts = playable  
game infested with huge amounts of russian grief hackers != playable

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**Author:** ![EXILE157](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/exile157/32/101894_2.png) [@EXILE157](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EXILE157)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 10:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/626 "2020-04-05T10:05:00Z")

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LOLGotYerTags said:

> [@EXILE157](#):
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> > [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
> >
> > > [@EXILE157](#):
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> > > > [@](#):
> > > >
> > > > BFV has been the worse BF game launch to this day!
> > 
> > You must not have been around for BF4’s launch then, That had a bug on siege that crashed the entire client to the desktop as soon as the central building was destroyed.
> 
> Please, that Levolution Feature that was added to BF4 was just temporary on that specific map and that doesn’t justify all the bs that everyone is going through today 4/3/2020 on BFV.
> 
> I’ve been around and actually tested all BF games because that’s what we are, real TESTERS. All you haven’t been around actually gaming on any BF Series compared to us loyal customers.

Mods can be loyal customers too, you know.

I have :

- Bad company 2
- BF1942 and expansions
- BF2
- BF3
- BF4
- BF hardline
- BF1
- BFV.

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**Author:** ![EXILE157](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/exile157/32/101894_2.png) [@EXILE157](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EXILE157)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 10:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/627 "2020-04-05T10:05:00Z")

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> [@Major\_Pungspark](#):
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> > [@EXILE157](#):
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> > > [@Major\_Pungspark](#):
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> > > > [@JCap334](#):
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> > > > > [@kid\_n4pper](#):
> > > > >
> > > > > it’s truly a shame and a let down that the devs are turning a blind eye to this issue.
> > > > 
> > > > I couldn’t agree more. I’ve seen more blatant aimbotting in this game than all other games I’ve played in my life combined… tenfold! And I’m talking about lewis gun instant head shots across the map aimbotting, not skilled players. DICE better step it up for the next BF game, but I’m sure because of this fiasco, their sales numbers will suffer.
> > > 
> > > I guess you werent around when the aimbooters ran rampant for months totally making the game unplayable in Bf4, I mean, that was hidous amounts…lol…
> > 
> > Don’t give out false information now… I have all BF Series and played them all, yes there were cheaters on BF4 like every other chapter, but we had control compared to BFV where we don’t have at all… BF4 got worse with cheaters/hackers as you say “aimbooters” towards the end of BF4, EA/DICE were practically giving away BF4 accounts for free!!!.. EA/DICE went into BF Hardline and then BF1 which became their major priority, that’s when we lost BF4 and they didn’t care to look back just like previous BF games, history shows it…
> > 
> > - BFV has No Anti-Cheat System, No Balanced, No Vote Maps and No Vote Kick. You only get 2 Options: (Shut Up and Take it ) or (Leave the Game).
> > 
> > > > > That’s Why We Need \>\>\> ((INDEPENDENT SERVERS)) \>\>\> So We Can Take Back Control Of Our Gaming Experience. \<\<\<
> > 
> > We’re in 2020 now! You expect EA/DICE to have things in order a long time ago! especially with these specific titles, we’re talking about a ((MultiBillion Dollar Company!)) BFV has been the worse BF game launch to this day!
> 
> The game was unplayable for months, the moment there was no admin online it was no point of playing. And it wasnt in the end, it was probably launch year jan-mars or something, the amount of cheating was insane, I think the game was called the russian hackerfield of something, because most of them was using russian ip numbers…

Stop it you’re stretching it to another level…

-The only reason why I only have ( 1338H and 38M gaming on BF3 ) because all jumped into BF4, leaving BF3 behind and that’s what creates unplayable servers.  
-The only reason why I only have ( 2883H and 30M gaming on BF4 ) because all jumped to BFHL, leaving BF4 behind, but wait! BFHL was such a crap game, the herd came back to BF4! Now comes BF1, again leaving behind BF4…

“Oooo a new BF game is coming out” BFHL 2015 crap!  
“Oooo a new BF game is coming out” BF1 2016 crap!  
“Oooo a new BF game is coming out” BFV 2018 crap!

Most players just follow the herd as soon as EA/DICE advertises the hell out of their next project.

BF4 is still playable and best BF by far compare to BF1 and BFV. I used to go back to BF4 after dealing with the bs on BFV but the problem with BF4, there’s hardly any Hardcore servers and Admins… Just like every other previous BF Series, the game no longer has updates and EA/DICE no longer care about previous games, so it becomes a cheating/hacking festival as EA/DICE moves on to another, again history shows it. EA/DICE completely destroyed gaming communities in 2016.

It’s like we’re going backward in gaming with today’s technology… TRUST ME when I say, I won’t be purchasing the next BF Series until EA/DICE get their act together and focus on creating complete and anti-cheat products for their loyal customers.

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**Author:** ![Major\_Pungspark](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Major\_Pungspark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Major_Pungspark)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 10:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/628 "2020-04-05T10:52:00Z")

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I am stretching it? It was really horrible for a COUPLE of months.

The reason why most players switch to the newer one is that most people see it as a game, not work, and want new fresh maps, new fresh toys to play with and then obviously have to wait a while to see how long it will take DICE to implement essential things from earlier games that they left out because, well, who know? The last one was a joke, or was it?

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/629 "2020-04-05T14:17:00Z")

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LOLGotYerTags said:

> [@EXILE157](#):
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> > [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
> >
> > > [@EXILE157](#):
> > >
> > > > [@](#):
> > > >
> > > > BFV has been the worse BF game launch to this day!
> > 
> > You must not have been around for BF4’s launch then, That had a bug on siege that crashed the entire client to the desktop as soon as the central building was destroyed.
> 
> Please, that Levolution Feature that was added to BF4 was just temporary on that specific map and that doesn’t justify all the bs that everyone is going through today 4/3/2020 on BFV.
> 
> I’ve been around and actually tested all BF games because that’s what we are, real TESTERS. All you haven’t been around actually gaming on any BF Series compared to us loyal customers.

Mods can be loyal customers too, you know.

I have :

- Bad company 2
- BF1942 and expansions
- BF2
- BF3
- BF4
- BF hardline
- BF1
- BFV.

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**Author:** ![FritzCT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/fritzct/32/102007_2.png) [@FritzCT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FritzCT)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/630 "2020-04-05T19:13:00Z")

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> [@ElliotLH](#):
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> > [@FritzCT](#):
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> > Mods I apologise because I know this breaches your TOS but please dont delete the post but edit it to get rid of the name - I don’t know how to. It’s meant as an example only.
> 
> If you click the cog icon on the right of where it says ‘member’ you’ll be able to edit your post 👍

Thanks Elliot, it’ll save me from any future infractions.

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**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/631 "2020-04-05T19:39:00Z")

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> [@FritzCT](#):
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> (Quote)  
> Thanks Elliot, it’ll save me from any future infractions.

You’re welcome bud.

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**Author:** ![PapaRomeo77](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/b5a626/32.png) [@PapaRomeo77](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PapaRomeo77)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/632 "2020-04-05T20:27:00Z")

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Just went in and played some BF5, quit again.  
The cheaters are ALL over the place now, no one is doing a thing about it?  
Game is SO broken right now.  
What a total mess in this state, unplayable.

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**Author:** ![losthunter340](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/losthunter340/32/106894_2.png) [@losthunter340](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/losthunter340)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/633 "2020-04-05T20:37:00Z")

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> [@OskooI\_007](#):
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> > [@losthunter340](#):
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> > (Quote)  
> > This is what my point was around page 80+ somewhere, this dude arent cheating, if he where he would be a really bad one. I got better overall stats then him and I get called a cheater multiply times per day when me and my friends play… I even seen some of them complain that day here on the forums that they meeting cheaters, players need to start to understand whos acually cheating and whos not becuse so many goes on stats and some players just becuse they die fast from someone with probally better aim and reaction time then their self “THEY are cheating”.
> > 
> > Is there a cheat problem in BF? Yeah kinda, is it as big as some of you think? Nope not at all BUT Dice/EA should take more action to those who acually cheats but players giving them a hard job on that by reporting profiles etc that dosent cheat. The blame is not only on the devs, its on the playerbase aswell who pointing on everyone who are better then themselfs.
> 
> Dude has 11,198 kills. 6,278 of those kills are headshots. I believe that’s a 56% headshot ratio. I’d say there’s a high probability that he’s cheating.
> 
> PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X can’t get here soon enough.

I dident check the headshot ratio and yeah thats really high to be fair, but it still seems hes really bad even if he is cheating 🤔

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**Author:** ![I9sixty2](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/b5e925/32.png) [@I9sixty2](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/I9sixty2)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/634 "2020-04-05T20:47:00Z")

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> [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > warzone has cheaters, As does modern warfare’s multiplayer, but I think they probably have a better grip on the issue.
> 
> I know you and others think it’s pointless, But despite that, Our go-to response to cheaters is always going to be report them.
> 
> Agree with it or not, THAT is how EA has set up the system to deal with cheaters that are somehow getting around fairfight.

IW has not only better grip on the issue their adressing it ! And that’s the difference. I cant belief that you still advice reporting cheaters…Look at the the boards how many times you think people have reported a lot of them …hundreds of times probably and they are still here. And don’t tell me they are all legit. Oh and official statement on the issue from Dice or EA: ZERO in two years… Even a osrtrich cant keep his head burried in the sand that long.

Don’t get me wrong i’m a longtime fan of the franchise and when I find servers with not to many obvious cheaters is it still big fun despite all the other problems btw. But I cant understand why they are destroying their own franchise or do they really think that all will be forgotten when the next BF launches ?

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**Author:** ![NegativeCamberUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@NegativeCamberUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NegativeCamberUK)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/635 "2020-04-06T00:19:00Z")

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Just came here to say I’m uninstalling this utter mess of a game, most rounds have hackers with like 82-3 K/D, DICE obviously do not care. I’m done with this game.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Red_Label_Scotch)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/636 "2020-04-06T01:40:00Z")

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> [@losthunter340](#):
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> > [@OskooI\_007](#):
> >
> > > [@losthunter340](#):
> > >
> > > (Quote)  
> > > This is what my point was around page 80+ somewhere, this dude arent cheating, if he where he would be a really bad one. I got better overall stats then him and I get called a cheater multiply times per day when me and my friends play… I even seen some of them complain that day here on the forums that they meeting cheaters, players need to start to understand whos acually cheating and whos not becuse so many goes on stats and some players just becuse they die fast from someone with probally better aim and reaction time then their self “THEY are cheating”.
> > > 
> > > Is there a cheat problem in BF? Yeah kinda, is it as big as some of you think? Nope not at all BUT Dice/EA should take more action to those who acually cheats but players giving them a hard job on that by reporting profiles etc that dosent cheat. The blame is not only on the devs, its on the playerbase aswell who pointing on everyone who are better then themselfs.
> > 
> > Dude has 11,198 kills. 6,278 of those kills are headshots. I believe that’s a 56% headshot ratio. I’d say there’s a high probability that he’s cheating.
> > 
> > PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X can’t get here soon enough.
> 
> I dident check the headshot ratio and yeah thats really high to be fair, but it still seems hes really bad even if he is cheating 🤔

Then why don’t you do some remedial checking of simple facts, (LIKE WE HAVE) before you open your mouth and spew incorrect garbage?

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**Author:** ![EXILE157](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/exile157/32/101894_2.png) [@EXILE157](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EXILE157)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/637 "2020-04-06T02:05:00Z")

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> [@Major\_Pungspark](#):
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> I am stretching it? It was really horrible for a COUPLE of months.
> 
> The reason why most players switch to the newer one is that most people see it as a game, not work, and want new fresh maps, new fresh toys to play with and then obviously have to wait a while to see how long it will take DICE to implement essential things from earlier games that they left out because, well, who know? The last one was a joke, or was it?

Looking at your previous BF profiles, you hardly played the game compared to most that have put in the time, more compared to a 9-5 job.  
Do you even know who the AIX DevTeam is? have you ever heard of the ( AIX DevTeam )? I personally couldn’t find your BF2 profile…

Anyways what AIX did with BF2 (2005) was prolonged players from switching to BFBC2 in (2010), costing EA/DICE money… The AIX DevTeam created an overall better gaming experience on BF2 than DICE themselves could have done!.. Figures the next EA/DICE project is to make sure to eliminate the Mods for future BF and guess what, it started with BFBC2 after they creating ( BFBC 2008 only for consoles ).

Finally, most players moved on to BFBC2 because BF3 was already in the talks for (2011) and within the gaming, communities players wanted to adjust towards future gameplay mechanism, the funny thing is BFBC2 Vietnam (2010) was a better gaming experience compared to the original BFBC2 and the graphic was way better!.. Unfortunately, BFBC2 Vietnam only had 5 Maps and didn’t last long enough, again EA/DICE jumps to the next BF game… Instead of expanding BFBC2 Vietnam that had so much room to grow!.. No, it was unplugged and left behind the business as usual.

Example: BF3, BF4, BF1 could have been reskinned, but there’s ((no money to be made)) on that - There was really no need for a BFV which by the way before it even came out the public, just with the advertising alone the public were bashing the game and for good reason at that… Look we’re in 2020 and since the launch, EA/DICE focus is Console-Style Gaming, No Anti-Cheat, No Balance, No Independent Server, No More Gaming Communities, Controlling our Gaming Experience and adding BattleCoins… There’s more negative compared to positive that’s a fact.

We are the joke - You sure don’t understand how corporate business work when it comes to money…

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**Author:** ![Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbce88/32.png) [@Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Magikf1ngers)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/638 "2020-04-06T02:23:00Z")

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TL;DR notice.

While I understand the concept of reporting cheaters, the problem is as I’ve said before. It’s like peeing yourself in dark clothes. You get a warm feeling, but no one really notices. It doesn’t do any good. Especially when you see the same cheaters over and over again. Fair Fight + report system is basically doing nothing. This was how Titanfall did it before BFV - and it didn’t do any good there, either.

EA doesn’t care. I don’t even put the blame on DICE at this point, as I’ve seen the same problem in multiple franchises that EA owns. Battlefield, Titanfall, NFS - they’re all rampant with cheaters. Then I go into a different publisher’s game (I Hate COD so I don’t play any of those), and it’s night and day. Sure - you might see one or two, but that’s IT - and you never see the same one twice.

I don’t want to contribute to the negativity of this thread, however, suggesting you report someone through EA for cheating is basically like trying to use bubblegum to patch a gaping hole in your car tire. In theory, it might work, but in reality it does nothing.

The ONLY ways to fix this as I see it are to:

1. Go back to a more pro-active anti-cheat. I’m unsure what’s available out there anymore, since I’ve been in college and lost touch with things for a while. However - I cannot accept that there’s not something better out there than Fair Fight and reporting. Whether it’s third party or in-house - there has to be something better.
2. Go back to having server rentals. At least then they can be privately administered. This should be happening for so many other reasons, but this is one of the biggest. That way, if I’m an admin (and I was an admin for both CS and BF 1942 - BF3) and there’s blatant cheating going on (e.g. - a level 21 person going 110 - 3 as a sniper), then I can ban that mfer from my server. Or if someone is in there spouting off with bigotry and / or other offensive content, the admin can get rid of them. That way they don’t have to waste time on a chat filter.

For me personally - it got summed up pretty well for me today. I’ve been working on my classes today, and needed a break. I fired up BFV - jumped in, and basically tried five different games. Between the cheating, and the teammates that think that sniping from spawn or hiding armor in spawn is going to somehow miraculously win the round (yeah, you can say it’s an unrelated issue, but people get frustrated when they can’t do anything because of a cheater, so that’s how they react), I couldn’t tolerate staying in a game.

Today’s frustration is becoming the norm. Yet I still try because I paid for the game, and the few times I can get in one where the cheating is at a minimum, it’s still a blast to play. So the optimistic side of me keeps trying. However - unless and until this issue is fixed, I will not be buying another EA product - and this is from a 30 year customer of EA.

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 6:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/639 "2020-04-06T06:45:00Z")

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> [@Magikf1ngers](#):
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> TL;DR notice.
> 
> Today’s frustration is becoming the norm. Yet I still try because I paid for the game, and the few times I can get in one where the cheating is at a minimum, it’s still a blast to play. So the optimistic side of me keeps trying. However - unless and until this issue is fixed, I will not be buying another EA product - and this is from a 30 year customer of EA.

> [@](#):
>
> Well said and in the same boat as you, been an ea customer since very early in the history of video games  
> such as the road rash series, so yeh well done EA, you managed to screw up years and years worth of  
> customer loyalty.
> 
> PAY THE PUNK BUSTER PEOPLE TO SORT IT OUT FOR YOU???

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**Author:** ![olavafar](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/olavafar/32/101046_2.png) [@olavafar](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/olavafar)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 7:03am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/640 "2020-04-06T07:03:00Z")

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> [@A\_al\_K\_pacino\_A](#):
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> > [@losthunter340](#):
> >
> > Do you know witch day? I was looking around on some rounds but dident find the match I think you refering too and becuse the site is loading abit slow for me I dont wanna sit around looking for hes name in all hes games.
> 
> 27 march I think.
> 
> As I said look at the graph that shows kills per day and work out what sort of kpm you need to get that number of kills. Adderall probably wouldn’t be enough.

Just generally, not concerning this specific case. The 25th - and a few days forward (depending on play pattern) one gets a kill spike due to the reports kicking in working again. Just check your ow graph. You will see a series of days before with 0 kills for almost all players. These are all coming into the system the first day one plays after the patch so it is an accumulated number. Thus, be careful to take this as indication of cheating because mostly it is not. Of course also the cheaters get the spike though.

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