# \[Megathread\] BFV and Cheating Discussion

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 25, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326 "2019-09-25T16:59:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BassMan\_PC](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bassman_pc/32/101295_2.png) [@BassMan\_PC](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BassMan_PC)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/801 "2019-11-12T15:34:00Z")

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> [@Eszencia](#):
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> Reporting hackers with proper youtube vid links will get the cheater banned, 100%, period.
> 
> It does, however, take anywhere between 2-5 business days for the player to be banned, as the case manager needs to do their reviews.
> 
> Use the following format when you’re submitting a report:
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> Name:  
> Platform: PC/PS4/XBOX  
> Type of hack: Aimbot,wallhack,damage mod  
> Date: DD/MM/YYYY  
> Link to BFV stats: (Find offending player under [https://battlefieldtracker.com/](https://battlefieldtracker.com/))  
> Link to video evidence: (Usually YouTube or third party video site)
> 
> I am part of a website wiki team that records/report/lists all the hackers/cheaters banned so far on the Australian servers. I also run a youtube channel that presents the evidence of said hacker/cheater.
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> EVERYONE that I have recorded and reported have been banned.
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> You will know that a hacker/cheater is banned when they stop generating GAME SESSIONS via [https://battlefieldtracker.com](https://battlefieldtracker.com/)  
> Usually their game sessions stop around 2-5 business days of you reporting with vid links.  
> This means they’re banned.
> 
> DICE “not doing anything” about the reports is absolutely FALSE. It’s just that there’s no video evidence at all to go off.

That is demanding a lot from a user. It is EA/DICE’s responsibility to provide a hacker/cheater free environment and to police the game. They are the ones that should be doing the digging and not be putting the burden on the victims. All it takes is a quick look up of someone’s tracker stats and you can tell if someone is a blatant cheater. EA is doing nothing from my experience and it is so frustrating. Video evidence should only be needed for the less obvious hackers.

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**Author:** ![TheRealFoe](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TheRealFoe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheRealFoe)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/802 "2019-11-12T15:51:00Z")

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put markers under the map saying if you can see this your a ban waiting to happen

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**Author:** ![DigitalHype](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/digitalhype/32/101726_2.png) [@DigitalHype](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DigitalHype)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/803 "2019-11-12T16:01:00Z")

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> [@STOPchris](#):
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> > [@GenCuster](#):
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> > And as alwaysit has been shown that the WORST
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> > cheaters are soft …
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> > Those who “seem” good players …
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> > but if you tease them a little more …
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> > raise the level and take revenge …
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> > and these days it is full …
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> > There are very few exaggerated ones.  
> > But soft increase …
> 
> Do you have some more of that??? You know? Whatever you took…

I think its obvious the poster isn’t a native English, speaker. What they are describing as “soft” cheaters is what we more commonly refer to is “closet” cheater. For example, a skilled player who limits their use of cheats to ESP/wallhack and is careful about not tracking targets. Or who uses things like softlock, sticky aim and toggles.

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**Author:** ![DigitalHype](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/digitalhype/32/101726_2.png) [@DigitalHype](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DigitalHype)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/804 "2019-11-12T16:03:00Z")

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> [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> > [@LEGIJAS\_YT](#):
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> > what is the purpse? just to talk about it and nothing happening… yeah
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> The megathread is to **post feedback** , Yes.

What is EA/DICE’s response to the plethora of their customer’s feedback stating that what they are doing isn’t sufficent? Silence.

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**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/805 "2019-11-12T16:44:00Z")

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> [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> I don’t blame EA or DICE or any other game dev though, I blame the players that are completely inept at even playing the game legitimately without any kind of assist.

Partly agree, but Dice has chosen FF as AC, which has proven to be useless a long time ago. They could have made a different and better choice, but nothing has been done. Nor have they communicated any future solution. They deserve to be blamed imo.

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**Author:** ![G3Twintown](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/76d3ee/32.png) [@G3Twintown](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/G3Twintown)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/806 "2019-11-12T17:16:00Z")

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> [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> > [@LEGIJAS\_YT](#):
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> > LET us open a thread where we can maybe SEND the gameplay how somebody is using aimbot or wallhack and BAN them IMMEDIATELY
> 
> Nope, The megathread is serving it’s purpose as it is intended.

You know what, I’m done with this Franchise.  
I started with BF2.  
The worst part is not even the cheaters, its DICE and EA not really adressing the issue.

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**Author:** ![NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/7cd45c/32.png) [@NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NN_Buzz12)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/807 "2019-11-12T17:23:00Z")

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If the revenue lost is great enough the next game might have a competent management team. Implementing an anti cheat worthy of the customers real dollars is the only way to get another buck out of me.

EA holds sole blame for this lemon. They had to know this was going to fail but green lighted release. The incompetence is beyond belief.

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**Author:** ![NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/7cd45c/32.png) [@NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NN_Buzz12)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/808 "2019-11-12T17:31:00Z")

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> [@DigitalHype](#):
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> (Quote)  
> What is EA/DICE’s response to the plethora of their customer’s feedback stating that what they are doing isn’t sufficent? Silence.

EA will never provide an official response. Only responsible companies with morals, ethics and values would do such a thing. If they do, some lowbe will need to fall on a sword while parachutes are handed to the real culprits.

I got a mega-thread for my $80 dollars.

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**Author:** ![ColesFlexili](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ColesFlexili](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ColesFlexili)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/809 "2019-11-12T18:31:00Z")

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> [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> > [@LEGIJAS\_YT](#):
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> > HOWWWWW is it possible that i met 1 minute ago the same AIMBOTER that i met 2 weeks ago… 60 level +. when will the new Anti cheat system come? VAC for cs 1.6 was better than Fairfight… HORRRIBLE JUST HORRIBLE.
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> VAC isn’t an instantaneous ban, Just like punkbuster, Bans on VAC are given out during waves IIRC.

Yeah VAC is just a blacklist, reviewers get demos from reported cases and give a verdict. In 1.6 times you had to make a demo, get the steam ID via console and send it to a site i wont name, but that worked too. But even better, there was HLguard, a nice working anticheat that detected scripts and engine based cheats and instantly banned everyone who tried to cheat. something like that would be helpful.  
The part i dont understand is why the game got an anticheat that cant even detect a blatant aimbotter. i get that player who try to hide their cheats are hard to catch, but if every player on the server can see someone is cheating and the anticheat cant, it is in fact a useless anticheat.

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**Author:** ![OftenShot](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/b487fb/32.png) [@OftenShot](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OftenShot)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/810 "2019-11-12T19:13:00Z")

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I find it quite ironic that EA made a big fuss about clamping down on toxicity in games recently. Hackusations and cheaters mocking legit players is the main cause for the majority of it.

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**Author:** ![Ssiquoya](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@Ssiquoya](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ssiquoya)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/811 "2019-11-12T20:09:00Z")

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@EA_Tom,

In your opening statement you said:

“Keep in mind we don’t speak for the anti-cheat team on these forums. While we can forward your feedback, we won’t be able to comment directly on ongoing efforts to combat cheating.”

Why not? For such a big issue in one of your headliner games, why isn’t the anti-cheat team more engaged with the community? This layer of insulation you have doesn’t feel like it is as productive as it could be in resolving the cheating epidemic. As players, the only thing we see when logging in to play is the problem getting worse and worse. Do you even have an anti-cheat team? Doesn’t seem like it. You’re not showing us anything progressive on this issue.

The only thing I see is a lot of other people, like myself, who regret spending the money we have to play a game we use to enjoy. This thread, being at the top of the forum list, and so popular is evidence of that. Like many others, once the subscription runs out, I won’t be back.

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**Author:** ![TheRealFoe](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TheRealFoe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheRealFoe)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/812 "2019-11-12T20:17:00Z")

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put Fu fighter bots under the map that annihilate people accidently shooting at them..

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/813 "2019-11-15T22:45:00Z")

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> [@SirBobdk](#):
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> Your forgot this: _Just give us rental servers with full admin control and let us be judges ourselves._
> 
> My point was that rental servers are the only solution right now and that could mean that good legit players could be kicked, but if that’s the cost of getting cheaters away from the server, then I would accept that.

True, You do know RSP is being worked on for near the end of chapter 5 though, right?

In all seriousness I don’t believe we’ll have very long to wait, Weeks at the most.

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**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/814 "2019-11-15T22:58:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> LOLGotYerTags said
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> > [@](#):
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> True, You do know RSP is being worked on for near the end of chapter 5 though, right?
> 
> In all seriousness I don’t believe we’ll have very long to wait, Weeks at the most.

I know and are looking forward to it. But we have heard about this for a long time, so I like to see it before I believe it 😃  
All we need then are some good admins who know how to see the difference between good players and cheaters.

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**Author:** ![MrCamp121](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MrCamp121](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCamp121)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/815 "2019-11-16T00:41:00Z")

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> [@SirBobdk](#):
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> (Quote)  
> I know and are looking forward to it. But we have heard about this for a long time, so I like to see it before I believe it 😃  
> All we need then are some good admins who know how to see the difference between good players and cheaters.

Hopefully sooner rather than later lol

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**Author:** ![EvilH0mer](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/evilh0mer/32/108044_2.png) [@EvilH0mer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EvilH0mer)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 4:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/816 "2019-11-16T04:09:00Z")

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Haven’t we also been told that anti-cheat measures were being implemented? Haven’t seen anything resembling an effective program yet, but everyone seem to think RSP is going to solve everything. It’s all just empty promises. EA has our $$, THEY DON’T CARE.

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**Author:** ![NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/7cd45c/32.png) [@NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NN_Buzz12)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 6:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/817 "2019-11-16T06:27:00Z")

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RSP servers aren’t the answer. Enter all the casual cheaters. EA must win against the cheaters. Accepting anything less is a defeatist attitude and reason to quit trying.

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**Author:** ![Renamed1536220819](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Renamed1536220819](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Renamed1536220819)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 10:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/818 "2019-11-16T10:37:00Z")

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nothing changed，the BF become more worse than origin，although I have not open the origin screen any more after 2018

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**Author:** ![deadstoned](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@deadstoned](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/deadstoned)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 11:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/819 "2019-11-16T11:31:00Z")

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Have DICE said anything about RSP servers having a vote kick/vote ban option? I’m very tired of joining a game only to come face to face with some cheater on 61:0 aimbotting an MG a few minutes into the game. Alternatively I hope multiple server admins can be set to help deal with the problem.

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**Author:** ![QU4NT0R](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/a3d4f5/32.png) [@QU4NT0R](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/QU4NT0R)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/820 "2019-11-16T14:34:00Z")

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> [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> > [@SirBobdk](#):
> >
> > Your forgot this: _Just give us rental servers with full admin control and let us be judges ourselves._
> > 
> > My point was that rental servers are the only solution right now and that could mean that good legit players could be kicked, but if that’s the cost of getting cheaters away from the server, then I would accept that.
> 
> True, You do know RSP is being worked on for near the end of chapter 5 though, right?
> 
> In all seriousness I don’t believe we’ll have very long to wait, Weeks at the most.

And from past experiences I would bet that they’ll not having full admin control. Also it was already said that XP gained on the RSP is not adding up to Tides of War. So we’ve still to grind on official servers which will not help to solve the situation as the cheaters there will not vanish by magic only in cause of RSP. I’ve just read the announcements for update 5.2 . Again no word about counter-measures. No word about the Cheater-Situation. Why isn’t EA able to openly communicate about the problem and giving the players the feeling that something will happen ? Why is it not possible to give feedback to the community on this topic ? Every other minor and major company is doing it and it’s appreciated by their players base. The situation is getting more and more frustrating. At the moment I’m only logging in Thursdays, completing the weekly assignments and after that stop playing BF5 for the rest of the week. The fun at my side is gone. The pacific update brought me back for a few days and I really enjoyed it. But this only lasted 3-4 days before I’ve stopped again. I’ll not pay for any more skins and cosmetics. I’ll not buy another EA/Dice franchise (Battlefront, Battlefield) as long as I don’t see any new (at least partly working) Anti-Cheat and a 180° turn in EA’s communication skills regarding this thematic. A lot of my friends have stopped month ago playing Battlefield out of frustration and they won’t come back. Just a quote from one of them: “Pacific update good ?” - Yes / “Anti-Cheat ?” - No / “Nah… not worth reinstalling then”

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