# \[Megathread\] BFV and Cheating Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 25, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326 "2019-09-25T16:59:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![TNA\_SneakyMonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@TNA\_SneakyMonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TNA_SneakyMonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/821 "2019-11-17T13:44:00Z")
I wasn’t able to finish a single round tonight from five attempts. The most egregious cheat we encountered is rank 140, with a 10:1 KDR. ---
**Author:** ![iriti1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/iriti1105/32/117679_2.png) [@iriti1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iriti1105)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/822 "2019-11-17T15:21:00Z")
Asia server is dead.Almost every server has at least one cheater. Has the Asia server been abandoned? ---
**Author:** ![tobias3212](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@tobias3212](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/tobias3212)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/823 "2019-11-17T15:22:00Z")
So, this is really becoming a bit too much. I stopped playing for now. Really unfortunate situation… I did a bit of research and it is really depressing. You can apparently setup those cheats so you are indistinguishable from a very good player. I found a cheater showing off his gameplay and it was indistinguishable from e.g. what Stodeh shows on Youtube (he would be able to stream on twich and nobody would notice). So server admins really would only be able to ban good players on their servers. What I am wondering, why does EA not sue those cheat tool developers? Epic seems to do so. It was trivial to find e.g. a GitHub account of a popular cheat tool developer where he even has (simple) public cheats for BFV. Or trace the playments. At the very least a DCMA takedown of the Github account would be appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![ColesFlexili](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ColesFlexili](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ColesFlexili)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/824 "2019-11-17T15:34:00Z")
> [@tobias3212](#): > > What I am wondering, why does EA not sue those cheat tool developers? Epic seems to do so. It was trivial to find e.g. a GitHub account of a popular cheat tool developer where he even has (simple) public cheats for BFV. Or trace the playments. At the very least a DCMA takedown of the Github account would be appropriate. An investigation and lawsuit can take forever depending on the availability of the sued party. Sueing the developers of the cheats does not help the game immediately. And the developement of anti-cheat tools is close to impossible since most of the cheats are either subscibtion services that provide no data for the developer or just implode on the smallest debuggattempt. ---
**Author:** ![RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RRedux)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/825 "2019-11-17T16:56:00Z")
So how’s the RSP thing coming along? Let the community handle anti-cheat measures since EA won’t do it themselves. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/826 "2019-11-17T17:05:00Z")
> [@RRedux](#): > > So how’s the RSP thing coming along? Let the community handle anti-cheat measures since EA won’t do it themselves. [Community Broadcast - Chapter 5 Check In](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/community-broadcast-chapter-5-check-in/107408) ---
**Author:** ![tobias3212](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@tobias3212](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/tobias3212)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 5:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/827 "2019-11-17T17:29:00Z")
> [@ColesFlexili](#): > > > [@tobias3212](#): > > > > What I am wondering, why does EA not sue those cheat tool developers? Epic seems to do so. It was trivial to find e.g. a GitHub account of a popular cheat tool developer where he even has (simple) public cheats for BFV. Or trace the playments. At the very least a DCMA takedown of the Github account would be appropriate. > > An investigation and lawsuit can take forever depending on the availability of the sued party. Sueing the developers of the cheats does not help the game immediately. > And the developement of anti-cheat tools is close to impossible since most of the cheats are either subscibtion services that provide no data for the developer or just implode on the smallest debuggattempt. Well, maybe not completely, but I’d say with some effort one would be able to cripple such a cheat seller within a week (if he lives in a western country). In the example I found, the cheat developer lives in Germany. His address is provided before payment. He uses Github, AntiDDos and Stripe. Those three one can take down nearly immediately via DMCA takedown requests. Stripe will drop him like a hot potato. I didn’t see any VAT information, so forward that to German tax authorities. His home address is shown in the payment process. Get a lawyer to provide a letterhead and send him a cease and desist letter with either pay 50k € and stop, or we will sue you. If he doesn’t pay up, sue him for trademark violation, copyright violation and EULA violation in a German court. He will get an injunction against selling early in the process. Blizzard already paved the way (up to federal courts) against another cheat seller, so this should be an open and shut case. ---
**Author:** ![UnPh4ZeD](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/unph4zed/32/112863_2.png) [@UnPh4ZeD](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UnPh4ZeD)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/828 "2019-11-18T01:07:00Z")
> [@JONxJITSU](#): > > (Quote) > Could you please provide links to your wiki, discord and youtube channel to back up your claims? That will be much appreciated. You cannot make such bold definitive statements without any proof. With that being said; it seems like you are having a much different experience in getting cheaters banned than 99% of everyone else. I say this because your “formula” has been replicated by many others before you to no avail. I personally have complied and submitted an incredibly large amount of reports with the inclusion of more information than you have ie: server number, map and time with recorded game play and nothing gets done months later. In most cases I have submitted reports on the same individual several times with nothing being done. From what I have read on posting from the anti cheat time is that they don’t necessarily look in to reports and rely on and have faith in FF’s detection. Which is why a lot of us are not seeing anything done when the majority of the community files a report even with detailed reports. I am not in no means calling you a lair or refuting your claims, I would like to see some evidence because I find this fascinating. Thank you. I use a nearly identical system and of the 30ish accounts I’ve reported (with video evidence) only 2 are still active. The last 20 are all on my YT if you feel the need to check for yourself. My video evidence is always short and sweet (quick edit just to show the obvious inhuman plays). It’s a good formula to follow. ---
**Author:** ![Lancelot\_du\_Lac](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lancelot_du_lac/32/106862_2.png) [@Lancelot\_du\_Lac](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lancelot_du_Lac)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 1:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/829 "2019-11-18T01:21:00Z")
> [@enterBrainer](#): > > > [@Lancelot\_du\_Lac](#): > > > > [»] > > This is the main reason I switched from PC to PS4. > > > > This, and the cost of constantly updating hardware (SSD, video cards, adding more/faster memory/etc.). > > > > Downside is that controllers have a steep learning curve. This will be fixed with next gen consoles which will allow k&m. > > > > I see a significant shift from PC to console when this happens. > > > > And before everyone starts to lose their minds about k&m for consoles, there are plenty of threads on this topic already. > > > > Just saying… > > How are you so sure that next gen will get kb/m support? Google this for latest info: Keyboard mouse sony xbox example of one link below: [https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/14/20964434/microsoft-xcloud-preview-ps4-controller-windows-10-support-2020](https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/14/20964434/microsoft-xcloud-preview-ps4-controller-windows-10-support-2020) There are also multiple BFV threads on the issue of K&M, if you are interested. ---
**Author:** ![kna5041](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ecccb3/32.png) [@kna5041](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kna5041)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 5:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/830 "2019-11-18T05:58:00Z")
Cheating is still a serious problem and I am increasingly seeing higher level players using the cheats. I really think more anticheating measures need to be inplemented. It’s really troubling now because they can see when people are spectating them, though plenty don’t care and let you record away as they blatently aimbot and wallhack. ---
**Author:** ![GenCuster](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gencuster/32/102049_2.png) [@GenCuster](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GenCuster)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 6:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/831 "2019-11-18T06:41:00Z")
> [@TNA\_SneakyMonkey](#): > > I wasn’t able to finish a single round tonight from five attempts. > > The most egregious cheat we encountered is rank 140, with a 10:1 KDR. > > This is a legit “good player” … > not a cheater … :D:D:D ---
**Author:** ![warslag](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/warslag/32/101053_2.png) [@warslag](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/warslag)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 8:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/832 "2019-11-18T08:15:00Z")
A built-in option to send a clip for review without having to record it yourself and upload it to YouTube would be really welcome. ---
**Author:** ![NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/7cd45c/32.png) [@NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NN_Buzz12)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/833 "2019-12-04T13:18:00Z")
EA has all the data they need to stop the cheating. Only thing they’re missing is will to act. ---
**Author:** ![bsafawi1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@bsafawi1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bsafawi1974)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/834 "2019-12-04T22:28:00Z")
Good luck with that ---
**Author:** ![Private\_Tom\_7](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/b19c9b/32.png) [@Private\_Tom\_7](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Private_Tom_7)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/835 "2019-12-05T15:30:00Z")
There are too many chinese hackers,so we want you to isolate them. ---
**Author:** ![nickvenom9129](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/3ec8ea/32.png) [@nickvenom9129](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/nickvenom9129)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/836 "2019-12-05T17:41:00Z")
We just want you guy to take a look with the report we send to and ban them, Because every times i play this game i met with the same cheater every single day. Our last hope is community game. ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/837 "2019-12-05T20:54:00Z")
One today going 173-5. ---
**Author:** ![Mojey09](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mojey09/32/106962_2.png) [@Mojey09](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Mojey09)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/838 "2019-12-05T22:31:00Z")
well if DICE want to stop cheaters will do long time back, cheating been there since BF4 and even before that, over 7 years and couldnt put a system that detect cheating for god sake free games now come with anti-cheat system DICE will never ever stop cheaters since they benefit financially from them. ---
**Author:** ![ColesFlexili](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ColesFlexili](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ColesFlexili)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/839 "2019-12-05T22:51:00Z")
EVERY time… every freaking time… just when you start to have fun… the next wallhacker… the next aimboter and the fun is gone… instantly gone gj dice ---
**Author:** ![GiveUsBeer](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/giveusbeer/32/117676_2.png) [@GiveUsBeer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GiveUsBeer)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/840 "2019-12-05T23:28:00Z")
As the guy above said you have all the data, how realistic is 42 / 2 KD ? Level 217, could be any level but more than 2 times during the 30 minutes you will encounter the at least tank or debris and die. Im level 98, why I dont have 21 / 1? Because I play as any other regular player and that guy is a cheater, using wallhacker and aimbot and not too dumb to make every bullet a headshot… It is just about the EA - if you was smart enough to make the game engine, you are more than smart enough to crunch some game results and make the decisions but I seriously doubt that you ll do anything. I was lead admin of BiHnet BF 1942 which was for 7 years most popular BF42 server in the world. Also was lead admin of BiHnet BF2 which was for 3 years most popular BF2 server in the world, believe that I know quite well how the tings going. Good luck to all of us with BFV [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326.md?page=41) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326.md?page=43)