# \[Megathread\] BFV and Cheating Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 25, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326 "2019-09-25T16:59:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![EXILE157](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/exile157/32/101894_2.png) [@EXILE157](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EXILE157)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 4:32am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/921 "2019-12-23T04:32:00Z")
I just went through some of that hacking on Wake Island and have screenshots of it, plus player saying “so ill exploit it until they do care” he also sent the site where he got it from, but then he buried it quickly like an uzi trigger finger, I didn’t get a chance for a screenshot, because I was too busy trying to play the game!..So I tried to get him to say it again and he said too late, you should have written down the first time around. A 26th Rank Hacker was at 137-0 and then let himself get killed a few times towards then end, ending at 137-10 and Ranked up to 30th - Compared to the rest of the players in the server, the next highest k/d ratio was 42-0 from a 90th Ranker. EA/DICE will continue to lie to us and acting as if we’re stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Rattoner](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rattoner/32/106628_2.png) [@Rattoner](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rattoner)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 5:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/922 "2019-12-23T05:19:00Z")
> [@EXILE157](#): > > I just went through some of that hacking on Wake Island and have screenshots of it, plus player saying “so ill exploit it until they do care” he also sent the site where he got it from, but then he buried it quickly like an uzi trigger finger, I didn’t get a chance for a screenshot, because I was too busy trying to play the game!..So I tried to get him to say it again and he said too late, you should have written down the first time around. > > A 26th Rank Hacker was at 137-0 and then let himself get killed a few times towards then end, ending at 137-10 and Ranked up to 30th - > Compared to the rest of the players in the server, the next highest k/d ratio was 42-0 from a 90th Ranker. > > EA/DICE will continue to lie to us and acting as if we’re stupid. I’m betting hard cash 42-0 was also cheating. ---
**Author:** ![OftenShot](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/b487fb/32.png) [@OftenShot](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OftenShot)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 8:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/923 "2019-12-23T08:20:00Z")
> [@xHonest\_Abe](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > When the new Xbox comes out in 2020, I’m done with gaming PC’s. PC gaming will be a relic of the dinosaur because of the cheat industry. It’s not just EA games who have problems. Fallout76 now has a hack where they can steal all your in game gear including stuff purchased for real caps. For multiplayer gaming I will be returning back to console, luckly I can use both M/KB or controller for fps. I will be keeping my PC just not upgrading it as often as I like playing the RTS games you can’t get on console. ---
**Author:** ![RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RRedux)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 10:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/924 "2019-12-23T10:01:00Z")
> [@VOLBANKER](#): > > I think many people do not have an understanding of just how insanely good some people are at playing FPS-games. So when they run into that type of player and get crushed by him, perhaps multiple times in a round, since they are not aware just how fast some people can play the game, they 100% honestly believe they’ve run into a cheater. > > Not saying cheating is not a problem, just that there ARE lots of incredibly good players out there. There are some players that could be either/or, but the ragehackers that has been seen a lot lately leaves little doubt. ---
**Author:** ![VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/dec6dc/32.png) [@VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VOLBANKER)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 11:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/925 "2019-12-23T11:50:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#): > > > [@VOLBANKER](#): > > > > [»] > > I think many people do not have an understanding of just how insanely good some people are at playing FPS-games. So when they run into that type of player and get crushed by him, perhaps multiple times in a round, since they are not aware just how fast some people can play the game, they 100% honestly believe they’ve run into a cheater. > > > > Not saying cheating is not a problem, just that there ARE lots of incredibly good players out there. > > I’m pretty sure we are past that type of conversation now. The abundance of blantent cheaters snapping shamelessly are stealing the show currently. I’m not talking about blatant cheaters. Everybody can usually point those out. But whenever I spectate - which I do quite often - I can see how the top players of (usually) the winning team get accused of cheating all the time. However with spectate, I can see that these guys are able to think, move and react much faster than the average person. They also know how to use every bit of cover to their advantage, and they know from experience the spots where enemies usually are present etc. . You can buy wallhack, aimbot and so on, but you can’t buy quick reactions, map know-how etc. such as the above. . My point is, people who do not spectate usually do not realize how many ordinary gamers / “non-celebrity-Youtubers” that are actually incredibly good at the game too. And thus it becomes far to easy to conclude these top guys “are just cheating”. ---
**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd_tv/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd_TV)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/926 "2019-12-23T14:11:00Z")
> [@VOLBANKER](#): > > (Quote) > I’m not talking about blatant cheaters. Everybody can usually point those out. But whenever I spectate - which I do quite often - I can see how the top players of (usually) the winning team get accused of cheating all the time. However with spectate, I can see that these guys are able to think, move and react much faster than the average person. They also know how to use every bit of cover to their advantage, and they know from experience the spots where enemies usually are present etc. > . > You can buy wallhack, aimbot and so on, but you can’t buy quick reactions, map know-how etc. such as the above.. > My point is, people who do not spectate usually do not realize how many ordinary gamers / “non-celebrity-Youtubers” that are actually incredibly good at the game too. And thus it becomes far to easy to conclude these top guys “are just cheating”. I’m going to say this one more time. We have gone through that conversation here before multiple times. I’m one of those players that get accused nearly every game every day that I’m on. That isn’t remotely a concern at this point in the thread/state of the game. The blantent ones are running around everywhere are even bugging ME now and shortening my stream sessions. If I have to leave every other server to find a clean non spin botting server then there’s a huge problem. If it takes upwards of three weeks or more for a cheater to “hopefully” have action towards there account is unacceptable. The leaderboard on bfvtracker has always been a good reference to find the line. Of course you have good players in the top 100 or 200 for certain things I’m one of them but those are extreme outliers. Drunkzz (spm), enders (kpm), relaa (allaround), tyrium (spm), InS\_Hypno (all around), Mdee\_\_vK (spm ,kpm) I use these people as benchmarks that I know I can trade with in firefights who are to my -assumption- legit then after verifying either the spin botter or closet cheater I check there game reports for abnormalities like headshot ratios etc. Sometimes I even spectate but at times you can tell when a player is looking at you / shooting at you if you have the game sense without using spectate. That type of senarios is when you can connect the dots. These cheaters lately have been taught or told to keep there kpm down because ive noticed a trend where they will still get an abundance of hs but will lower the rate of those kills per round in order to not get flagged as easily. I also believe they are told to remove themselves from third party option in game so you can’t see there stats. There are also some players that will use cheats after buying an (99 cent) account to raise there the kd and spm then return to a “normal” state for the remainder. I’m tracking around 5 people right now that have done that. Now can we chill with the good players are being accused of this and that? Words have never hurt us. We will be alright. The environment right now is a product of that type of toxicity. A better anti cheat would lighten load but never make it better for those type of players. It never has. ---
**Author:** ![KrullBorg](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/fbc32d/32.png) [@KrullBorg](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KrullBorg)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/927 "2019-12-23T15:15:00Z")
in spectator mode, can we have different colors on minimap for who is visible to the player spectated and me the spectator? in this way it’s more easy to understand who’s using wallhack ---
**Author:** ![Dardanos\_gr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dardanos_gr/32/112762_2.png) [@Dardanos\_gr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Dardanos_gr)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/928 "2019-12-23T15:17:00Z")
EA\_Tom said: Hey all, We do understand encountering cheaters causes a negative impact on your gaming experience. We want to give you an opportunity to share your thoughts about cheating and what can be done to combat it. Any feedback you may have can be posted in this thread. When posting your comments, please remember: - Familiarize yourself with the forum rules & guidelines, here - Don’t name & shame other players - Be constructive ---
**Author:** ![bsafawi1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@bsafawi1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bsafawi1974)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/929 "2019-12-23T15:35:00Z")
BFV issues cheaters & Spectur mode Players Why some players are cheat ? Because they have no skills and they can’t survive in fair condition Simply bunch a noob with Spectur mode You are need to go EA Helps and send a feedback about those players cheaters with Spectur mode In every maps BFV PS4 version you are see almost 8 to 12 of them If you want enjoy the fair game You are all need to do something about that Good luck ---
**Author:** ![lewron1306](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lewron1306/32/106875_2.png) [@lewron1306](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lewron1306)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/930 "2019-12-23T15:41:00Z")
I have run into a player who you cant report! he has his profile blocked (name and shame removed by moderator) . what can be done about players who openly admit to cheating but you cant report! ---
**Author:** ![bsafawi1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@bsafawi1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bsafawi1974)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/931 "2019-12-23T15:53:00Z")
@lewron1306 Go to EA Helps for BFV chose report a player for cheat or Just line them up Check score board every minute when you are in the field (game ) you see player with unusual score you go for it No Prisoner ! line them up ---
**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd_tv/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd_TV)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/932 "2019-12-23T15:55:00Z")
> [@lewron1306](#): > > I have run into a player who you cant report! he has his profile blocked (name and shame removed by moderator) . what can be done about players who openly admit to cheating but you cant report! You do understand anyone can make there profile private. In his case he’s spammed constantly on twitch and origin so I could see why he made his account private. Nothing abnormal about his gameplay from what I’ve seen other than he plays way better with a squad which is why his k/d and only his k/d is so high (like most do). On another note you might want to remove his name before you get sent away. ---
**Author:** ![bsafawi1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@bsafawi1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bsafawi1974)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/933 "2019-12-23T15:57:00Z")
important thing You need to know about cheat and cheaters in BFV BF1 BF4 1 , more than 15% of players in every maps special in the BFV are Cheating right now 2,as a normal players You have only 25% chance to face and defeat them in the field , 3, They Have 60% more health than you , 4, You are already tag they can see You Before you discover them 5, your first round shooting are not count almost Half of your Mag depending on class and weapon You are using 6, Your weapon is getting over hitting more as normal time when you try to take them down it’s mean nothing wrong with your skills or your options Simply you are shooting on the wrong target 7, every single shot of cheaters will be counted even if half meter far from you sometime them bullet passing through the cover stone and wall There is not such a score like 100 kills 2 dead 70 kills 5 dead 120 kills 7 dead They are just cheating Only few players with high skills can make that score Only option you have Keep pushing EA & Dice to act against Spectur mode players ( cheaters) Good Luck and Happy Hunting ---
**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd_tv/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd_TV)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/934 "2019-12-23T15:59:00Z")
> [@bsafawi1974](#): > > important thing You need to know about cheat and cheaters in BFV BF1 BF4 > 1 , more than 22% of players in every maps special in the BFV are Cheating right now > 2,as a normal players You have only15% chance to face and defeat them in the field , > 3, They Have 60% more health than you , > 4, You are already tag they can see You Before you discover them > 5, your first round shooting are not count almost Half of your Mag depending on class and weapon You are using > 6, Your weapon is getting over hitting as normal time when you try to take them down it’s mean nothing wrong with your skills or your options Simply you are shooting on the wrong target > 7, every single shot of cheaters will be counted even if half meter far from you sometime them bullet passing through the cover stone and wall > There is not such a score like > 100 kills 2 dead > 70 kills 5 dead > 120 kills 7 dead > They are just cheating > Only few players with high skills can make that score > Only option you have > Keep pushing EA & Dice to act against Spectur mode players ( cheaters) > Good Luck and Happy Hunting You have no way to determine those numbers. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![bsafawi1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@bsafawi1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bsafawi1974)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/935 "2019-12-23T16:08:00Z")
@TyroneLoyd_TV I’m very patient And i will Panish them in the right moment Just wait for them to make a mistake Don’t worry they all do ---
**Author:** ![RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RRedux)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/936 "2019-12-23T19:02:00Z")
Still no replies from Dice? Guess it is exactly like we have guessed, they have no intention of looking at this thread, and no intention of doing something about the cheating. Telling people over and over again to “report the cheaters” is empty and pointless since as have been pointed out again and again, nothing ever becomes of those reports. Evidence, number of reports, none of it makes any difference. The cheaters know it too, better than anyone, they flaunt it in the chat while they are ragehacking. ---
**Author:** ![piconooby](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/7ba0ec/32.png) [@piconooby](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/piconooby)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/937 "2019-12-23T19:21:00Z")
There are so many hackers right now i only have fun playing the game in tanks where their aimbot cant reach me. It feels like anyone who plans to play infantry would need to buy some hacks themselves before they can start thinkimg about playing a fair game. Infantry requires the Hack DLC for battlefield, else you are just fodder. ---
**Author:** ![MrCamp121](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MrCamp121](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCamp121)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/938 "2019-12-23T19:55:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#): > > > [@VOLBANKER](#): > > > > (Quote) > > I’m not talking about blatant cheaters. Everybody can usually point those out. But whenever I spectate - which I do quite often - I can see how the top players of (usually) the winning team get accused of cheating all the time. However with spectate, I can see that these guys are able to think, move and react much faster than the average person. They also know how to use every bit of cover to their advantage, and they know from experience the spots where enemies usually are present etc. > > . > > You can buy wallhack, aimbot and so on, but you can’t buy quick reactions, map know-how etc. such as the above.. > > My point is, people who do not spectate usually do not realize how many ordinary gamers / “non-celebrity-Youtubers” that are actually incredibly good at the game too. And thus it becomes far to easy to conclude these top guys “are just cheating”. > > I’m going to say this one more time. We have gone through that conversation here before multiple times. I’m one of those players that get accused nearly every game every day that I’m on. That isn’t remotely a concern at this point in the thread/state of the game. The blantent ones are running around everywhere are even bugging ME now and shortening my stream sessions. If I have to leave every other server to find a clean non spin botting server then there’s a huge problem. If it takes upwards of three weeks or more for a cheater to “hopefully” have action towards there account is unacceptable. The leaderboard on bfvtracker has always been a good reference to find the line. > > Of course you have good players in the top 100 or 200 for certain things I’m one of them but those are extreme outliers. > Drunkzz (spm), enders (kpm), relaa (allaround), tyrium (spm), InS\_Hypno (all around), Mdee\_\_vK (spm ,kpm) I use these people as benchmarks that I know I can trade with in firefights who are to my -assumption- legit then after verifying either the spin botter or closet cheater I check there game reports for abnormalities like headshot ratios etc. Sometimes I even spectate but at times you can tell when a player is looking at you / shooting at you if you have the game sense without using spectate. That type of senarios is when you can connect the dots. > > These cheaters lately have been taught or told to keep there kpm down because ive noticed a trend where they will still get an abundance of hs but will lower the rate of those kills per round in order to not get flagged as easily. I also believe they are told to remove themselves from third party option in game so you can’t see there stats. There are also some players that will use cheats after buying an (99 cent) account to raise there the kd and spm then return to a “normal” state for the remainder. I’m tracking around 5 people right now that have done that. > Now can we chill with the good players are being accused of this and that? Words have never hurt us. We will be alright. The environment right now is a product of that type of toxicity. A better anti cheat would lighten load but never make it better for those type of players. It never has. Well said ---
**Author:** ![VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/dec6dc/32.png) [@VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VOLBANKER)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/939 "2019-12-23T22:04:00Z")
@TyroneLoyd_TV : Please stop making straw man arguments out of what I said. What I said was: 1. There are lots of extremely good players out there 2. Many “ordinary” gamers just don’t know how fast and well those that are really good at the game can play The combination of 1) and 2) combined with the fact that yes, everyone runs into blatant cheaters sometimes, means many people almost automatically assume they’ve faced a cheater whenever they get outplayed by someone - even though often it is simply a case of the opponent having faster reactions, faster general movement, superior map knowledge, better weapon and gadget handling and so on. That’s all I said. ---
**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd_tv/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd_TV)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/940 "2019-12-23T22:46:00Z")
> [@VOLBANKER](#): > > @TyroneLoyd_TV : Please stop making straw man arguments out of what I said. > > What I said was: > > 1. There are lots of extremely good players out there > > 2. Many “ordinary” gamers just don’t know how fast and well those that are really good at the game can play > > The combination of 1) and 2) combined with the fact that yes, everyone runs into blatant cheaters sometimes, means many people almost automatically assume they’ve faced a cheater whenever they get outplayed by someone - even though often it is simply a case of the opponent having faster reactions, faster general movement, superior map knowledge, better weapon and gadget handling and so on. > > That’s all I said. How am I strawmanning you when all I stated was that we have already discussed what you stated MULTIPLE times. We are discussing spin botters at this point which effects everyone in a server. The rest was directed towards the entire situation at hand CURRENTLY. “Sometimes” and every other server is completely different senarios that I have video evidence to prove. So no it’s not a strawman. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326.md?page=46) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326.md?page=48)