# \[Megathread\] BFV and Cheating Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 25, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326 "2019-09-25T16:59:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![bsafawi1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@bsafawi1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bsafawi1974)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/941 "2019-12-24T00:36:00Z")
Folks you need go to EA Help and chose feedback share your experiences and feeling about cheat and cheaters I don’t know about PC but I know about PS4 Cheaters ( players with Spectur mode and 2 accounts ) are damaging our game We should do something about the ---
**Author:** ![OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskooi_007/32/103046_2.png) [@OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OskooI_007)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 1:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/942 "2019-12-24T01:12:00Z")
This is the type of community interaction I would like to see from DICE. > [@PCgamesN.com](#): > > PUBG is still banning 100,000 cheaters a week > > Cheating has been a problem for PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds ever since it hit the height of its popularity two years ago, but a renewed sense of concern from the community has forced the developers to make a public response. In short – cheating is a problem that PUBG Corp recognises, too, and they’re still banning bad actors by the truckload. > > “In terms of volume of reports that I’m seeing personally, and others on the Community Team, we haven’t seen this many for a very long time,” community manager PUBG Hawkinz says on Reddit. “We understand there is a big uptake in the number of cheaters you’re playing against and we know how severe the impact is on your matches right now.” > > Back toward the end of 2018, PUBG Corp reported ban waves affecting around 90,000 cheaters in the space of a week, and it seems that pace is keeping up. “We often ban over 100k accounts per week,” Hawkinz says. For the week ending December 14, there were exactly 116,531 PUBG cheaters banned. > > Hardware ID bans are also in place, despite some player speculation to the contrary. “Unfortunately, we can’t apply HWID bans in many cases,” Hawkinz says, and you’ll likely see the reasons why in an upcoming developer letter. Don’t expect to learn every detail of how the anti-cheat efforts are going, though, since too many specifics might give cheaters further ideas on how to exploit the system. > > Cheating will never not be a problem for multiplayer games, and it’s clear that PUBG Corp is making efforts to stem the tide – but the cheating issue has remained a special thorn in the battle royale’s side for ages, and that’s not likely to change soon. > > [https://www.pcgamesn.com/playerunknowns-battlegrounds/pubg-cheating-problem](https://www.pcgamesn.com/playerunknowns-battlegrounds/pubg-cheating-problem) ---
**Author:** ![NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/7cd45c/32.png) [@NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NN_Buzz12)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 3:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/943 "2019-12-24T03:25:00Z")
> [@VOLBANKER](#): > > @TyroneLoyd_TV : Please stop making straw man arguments out of what I said. > > What I said was: > > 1. There are lots of extremely good players out there > > 2. Many “ordinary” gamers just don’t know how fast and well those that are really good at the game can play > > The combination of 1) and 2) combined with the fact that yes, everyone runs into blatant cheaters sometimes, means many people almost automatically assume they’ve faced a cheater whenever they get outplayed by someone - even though often it is simply a case of the opponent having faster reactions, faster general movement, superior map knowledge, better weapon and gadget handling and so on. > > That’s all I said. There are great players in this game. But the lack of a proven AC makes me suspect everyone that gives me a weird feel after a strange death. Right or wrong, take it up with EA as they’re the cause of my doubts. ---
**Author:** ![pajsner](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@pajsner](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/pajsner)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 8:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/944 "2019-12-24T08:50:00Z")
> [@NN\_Buzz12](#): > > > [@VOLBANKER](#): > > > > [»] > > @TyroneLoyd_TV : Please stop making straw man arguments out of what I said. > > > > What I said was: > > > > 1. There are lots of extremely good players out there > > > > 2. Many “ordinary” gamers just don’t know how fast and well those that are really good at the game can play > > > > The combination of 1) and 2) combined with the fact that yes, everyone runs into blatant cheaters sometimes, means many people almost automatically assume they’ve faced a cheater whenever they get outplayed by someone - even though often it is simply a case of the opponent having faster reactions, faster general movement, superior map knowledge, better weapon and gadget handling and so on. > > > > That’s all I said. > > There are great players in this game. But the lack of a proven AC makes me suspect everyone that gives me a weird feel after a strange death. > > Right or wrong, take it up with EA as they’re the cause of my doubts. Then you do not know if the extraordinary reflexes are due to extraordinary knowledge of how to play invisible with wallhack, we have seen that when professionals are caught cheating. Now that it’s so easy to cheat in this game, it’s probably better to have rage cheaters on a server than just as many closet cheaters. Rage cheaters, are at least honest with what they do. ---
**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd_tv/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd_TV)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 9:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/945 "2019-12-24T09:57:00Z")
> [@pajsner](#): > > (Quote) > > Then you do not know if the extraordinary reflexes are due to extraordinary knowledge of how to play invisible with wallhack, we have seen that when professionals are caught cheating. Now that it’s so easy to cheat in this game, it’s probably better to have rage cheaters on a server than just as many closet cheaters. Rage cheaters, are at least honest with what they do. Getting cleared out of a room is certainly not better. ---
**Author:** ![QU4NT0R](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/a3d4f5/32.png) [@QU4NT0R](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/QU4NT0R)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/946 "2019-12-24T14:15:00Z")
> [@VOLBANKER](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > . > > You can buy wallhack, aimbot and so on, but you can’t buy quick reactions, map know-how etc. such as the above. > . Which isn’t true… You can buy quick reactions and that’s one of the functions those “new generation” cheats are having… It’s nearly impossible nowadays to differ between real good players and cheaters trying to play legit… There are cheats out there which are having “Auto-Shoot”.. Those aimbots are locking on automatically to enemies and automatically firing the weapons… No reaction from the specific player needed… it just works… also some of these aimbots are having a function for auto-targetting and shooting at enemies which are starting to aim at the cheater… I’ve experienced this cheat several times and got also video-coverage of it… Once I’ve followed a guy on a sparely populated (10 vs. 8 at this time) server on “twisted steel” from the German spawn over D till close to G… He didn’t noticed me… Before he was reaching G I tried to aim at him from a 160-170 degree angle… not directly from behind… The moment I was pressing the right mouse-button from behind a bush he turned directly at the exact angle into my direction and insta-killed me… There was no “turning” animation… He just insta-faced me… Also a lot of cheats are having an integrated spectator warning… Yesterday I was switching to spectator in cause of some suspicious behavior of a player… Seconds after I’ve switched to his 1st person view he was calling ME out and told me “You don’t need to spectate me as I won’t do anything while you do so”… then he layed down at the small isle around A on Wake Island and waited for the end of the round… If you don’t believe it then check the “feature” list of several cheats out there… ---
**Author:** ![RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RRedux)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/947 "2019-12-24T14:47:00Z")
If Dice had a real anti-cheat approach, the amount of hackusations against legitimate players would definitely drop. It makes sense that people are even faster to accuse someone of hacking when there are in fact tons of real cheaters playing. Like, the kinds that don’t leave ANY doubt that they are cheating. Since players see cheaters every day, it’s easy to suspect good players too. If cheating wasn’t so rampant, if players had confidence that cheaters actually get banned, then the amount of accusations would certainly drop. ---
**Author:** ![JoesDementia](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/joesdementia/32/102409_2.png) [@JoesDementia](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JoesDementia)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/948 "2019-12-24T15:23:00Z")
> [@QU4NT0R](#): > > (Quote) > Which isn’t true… You can buy quick reactions and that’s one of the functions those “new generation” cheats are having… It’s nearly impossible nowadays to differ between real good players and cheaters trying to play legit… There are cheats out there which are having “Auto-Shoot”.. Those aimbots are locking on automatically to enemies and automatically firing the weapons… No reaction from the specific player needed… it just works… also some of these aimbots are having a function for auto-targetting and shooting at enemies which are starting to aim at the cheater… I’ve experienced this cheat several times and got also video-coverage of it… > > Once I’ve followed a guy on a sparely populated (10 vs. 8 at this time) server on “twisted steel” from the German spawn over D till close to G… He didn’t noticed me… Before he was reaching G I tried to aim at him from a 160-170 degree angle… not directly from behind… The moment I was pressing the right mouse-button from behind a bush he turned directly at the exact angle into my direction and insta-killed me… There was no “turning” animation… He just insta-faced me… > > Also a lot of cheats are having an integrated spectator warning… Yesterday I was switching to spectator in cause of some suspicious behavior of a player… Seconds after I’ve switched to his 1st person view he was calling ME out and told me “You don’t need to spectate me as I won’t do anything while you do so”… then he layed down at the small isle around A on Wake Island and waited for the end of the round… If you don’t believe it then check the “feature” list of several cheats out there… And let’s not forget that cheaters can stream with cheats on. Even those people who say “check my stream” could be running cheats. The cheat sellers are experts at what they do, since they’ve had years to perfect their Frostbite cheats. ---
**Author:** ![TheRealFoe](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TheRealFoe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheRealFoe)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/949 "2019-12-24T15:26:00Z")
firestorm ..I was in Oldenburg a squad was in the big building opposite I was being shot at on the far end of the platform in the other building so I jumped behind the metal railing prone and was sill getting shot , is that possible ? I got away and continued going near the rest of my team , shot a few down that came in to the building we were in but the last guy overpowered me after I had no shots left .. I didn’t know who it was from the people who were shooting in the opposite squad that shot through the metal plate on the rail anyway ,and I guess I would never know because I don’t have those stats… anyway after I died I recorded the game looked who seemed to be scoping through walls , I didn’t have to wait long before the top bot jockeys rode in and wiped them out with hip fire from the mountain opposite a point . ---
**Author:** ![RipGroove99](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ripgroove99/32/103273_2.png) [@RipGroove99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RipGroove99)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/950 "2019-12-24T15:28:00Z")
This really is just getting out of hand. Obvious cheater, the usual headshotting FG42 across the map, 30+ kills with 3 mins of the game starting, go to report him (even though its pointless as hackers have anti screenshot etc) and see his profile pic even says ‘Please feel free to report the hacker’. I mean, this guy must get reported 100’s of times a day, yet he’s not banned? What happened to the good old days where IP bans stopped cheaters from just buying another cheapo origin account? I’ve stuck with this game through its ups and many downs but this sort of thing really makes me feel like no one really cares about stopping these prolific cheaters. Since the whole game was Nerfed in 5.2 I’ve found myself playing other games much more often and whenever I do jump back on I’m constantly reminded of the horrid experience it is right now. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/951 "2019-12-24T16:42:00Z")
> [@Dirrty\_Sniper](#): > > What happened to the good old days where IP bans stopped cheaters from just buying another cheapo origin account? Those days died out in the early noughties. Especially with the advent of things like VPN’s. Plus, IP bans aren’t enforceable anyways, many ISP’s give a static IP address, But at the customers request they can have a Dynamic IP, And to change your IP all you’ll have had to do is to shut off your router for 20-30 minutes to brute force a new IP. Things used to be simpler back then, But now? Now it is a different ballgame. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalHype](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/digitalhype/32/101726_2.png) [@DigitalHype](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DigitalHype)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/952 "2019-12-24T16:49:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#): > > > [@pajsner](#): > > > > (Quote) > > > > Then you do not know if the extraordinary reflexes are due to extraordinary knowledge of how to play invisible with wallhack, we have seen that when professionals are caught cheating. Now that it’s so easy to cheat in this game, it’s probably better to have rage cheaters on a server than just as many closet cheaters. Rage cheaters, are at least honest with what they do. > > Getting cleared out of a room is certainly not better. At least you know what you’re fighting against. Closet cheaters are a much lower form of multiplayer scum. ---
**Author:** ![StalkingGoose](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/stalkinggoose/32/100960_2.png) [@StalkingGoose](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StalkingGoose)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/953 "2020-02-21T17:22:00Z")
> [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](#): > > (Quote) > “…We need a journalist that is not afraid of EA.” It’s sad that reports and postings like this from the community on such massive scales is still not getting their attention to fix their product. Do you know who else we could reach out to? I’ve sent things to various folks at EA from – Sean Merson, Anti-Cheat Producer, The DICE Anti-Cheat Team to Andrew Wilson, the CEO of EA. I’ve had no luck, but will keep on sending to them and more. @EA_Tom Where are you? Can we get a response from you? It’s been 150 days at this point with no update or word from EA on how they’re going to address this major problem with their product. ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/954 "2020-02-21T17:52:00Z")
> [@SoniferousGamer](#): > > @EA_Tom Where are you? Can we get a response from you? It’s been 150 days at this point with no update or word from EA on how they’re going to address this major problem with their product. This ---
**Author:** ![STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/STOPchris)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/955 "2020-02-21T18:57:00Z")
> [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](#): > > > [@STOPchris](#): > > > > If you play games meant for kids, you get to play with kids… Kids cheat, they steal, they try to get away with dishonest acts, they are selfish and hurt others… Play a kid’s game and you get to play by kid rules, try to get away with what you can and when you get caught start crying and acting like… Yeah, a kid. Needless to say, I am backing out of playing kids games anymore (such as this one). There are far better games that I can play without having to interact with children and their way of thinking. > > > > Edit: I am not just talking about kids under 18… Technically, the human brain does not fully develop until around 25, so I am talking about everyone up to around that age. > > I am not going to fully agree with you. I’ve seen lots of names, names that are plays on words, names of hackers, that are cultural references that you would have to be over 30, let alone over 40, to catch. It’s not a kids thing, hacking, I mean. Although I tend to disagree. If they are 30-40 years old, they are REALLY pitiful. I can understand it, MAYBE, better if they are still in their 20’s. If you are doing this in your 30’s or 40’s, you are just a pitiful human being. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Red_Label_Scotch)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/956 "2020-02-21T19:30:00Z")
This is the type of reply that you get when contacting EA support: Note the games mentioned. ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/3/9/397e56eb3cefe63b96621d09d8dd535b09cd2193.png) ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Red_Label_Scotch)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/957 "2020-02-21T19:30:00Z")
> [@STOPchris](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Although I tend to disagree. If they are 30-40 years old, they are REALLY pitiful. I can understand it, MAYBE, better if they are still in their 20’s. If you are doing this in your 30’s or 40’s, you are just a pitiful human being. I don’t think anyone will argue that point at all. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Red_Label_Scotch)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/958 "2020-02-21T19:30:00Z")
This is the type of reply that you get when contacting EA support: Note the games mentioned. ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/3/9/397e56eb3cefe63b96621d09d8dd535b09cd2193.png) ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Red_Label_Scotch)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/959 "2020-02-21T19:30:00Z")
> [@STOPchris](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Although I tend to disagree. If they are 30-40 years old, they are REALLY pitiful. I can understand it, MAYBE, better if they are still in their 20’s. If you are doing this in your 30’s or 40’s, you are just a pitiful human being. I don’t think anyone will argue that point at all. ---
**Author:** ![I9sixty2](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/b5e925/32.png) [@I9sixty2](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/I9sixty2)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/960 "2020-02-21T20:17:00Z")
And with so much cheating going on i’m getting paranoid… everyone above average is a suspect . Sad that it has come to this. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326.md?page=47) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326.md?page=49)