# More terrible choices from dice. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 18, 2019, 11:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/more-terrible-choices-from-dice/107092 "2019-07-18T11:13:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ninjapenquinuk)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 9:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/more-terrible-choices-from-dice/107092/21 "2019-07-19T09:45:00Z")
> [@barnesalmighty2](#): > > > [@ElliotLH](#): > > > > It does feel weird that you can’t call in artillery any more. I get that it wasn’t exactly effective in the last iteration of Rush but it still feels odd. > > The artillery in V was fine as it was, pretty much useless unlike the game breaking spam in BF1. > I’m still angry with the removal of attack then defend aspect of rush. This was probably an unintended thing, knowing what we do about the slap dash nature of BFV developement ---
**Author:** ![FragbaitDax](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/db5fbb/32.png) [@FragbaitDax](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FragbaitDax)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 10:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/more-terrible-choices-from-dice/107092/22 "2019-07-19T10:26:00Z")
There’s another good reason why Dice keep promoting these smaller game modes… because their optimisation of the game, their server quality and a host of other reasons mean that the 64 player game modes perform poorly. One of the key aspects that led me to purchasing BFV was to participate in that huge 64 player game mode. If I wanted smaller games, I would have been able to choose from a lot more products out there. ---
**Author:** ![firechickenfan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/firechickenfan/32/101953_2.png) [@firechickenfan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/firechickenfan)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/more-terrible-choices-from-dice/107092/23 "2019-07-19T14:05:00Z")
> [@disposalist](#): > > utopiate07 said: > Rush died after BF3 and Battlefield in general died after BF4 > > Lol. Except BF1 is better than BF4, so… Lol./\ Bf1 LOOKED better, yes. But in EVERY OTHER WAY, Bf4 is/was a better game than Bf1. Bf1 sold more for multiple reasons, mostly off of the amount of advertising. Not to mention the popularity that Bf3/Bf4 built. Bf1 was a beautiful crappy game. Bf5 is not much more than a more severely broken reskin. But as the dude said a bit ago, it is all speculative opinion. ---
**Author:** ![barnesalmighty2](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/barnesalmighty2/32/101292_2.png) [@barnesalmighty2](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/barnesalmighty2)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/more-terrible-choices-from-dice/107092/24 "2019-07-19T14:53:00Z")
> [@firechickenfan](#): > > > [@disposalist](#): > > > > utopiate07 said: > > Rush died after BF3 and Battlefield in general died after BF4 > > > > Lol. Except BF1 is better than BF4, so… > > Lol./\ > > Bf1 LOOKED better, yes. > > But in EVERY OTHER WAY, Bf4 is/was a better game than Bf1. > > Bf1 sold more for multiple reasons, mostly off of the amount of advertising. Not to mention the popularity that Bf3/Bf4 built. > > Bf1 was a beautiful crappy game. Bf5 is not much more than a more severely broken reskin. > > But as the dude said a bit ago, it is all speculative opinion. I personally thought BF1 was garbage overall and a huge backwards step for the series. ---
**Author:** ![firechickenfan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/firechickenfan/32/101953_2.png) [@firechickenfan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/firechickenfan)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/more-terrible-choices-from-dice/107092/25 "2019-07-19T16:21:00Z")
> [@barnesalmighty2](#): > > > [@firechickenfan](#): > > > > > [@disposalist](#): > > > > > > utopiate07 said: > > > Rush died after BF3 and Battlefield in general died after BF4 > > > > > > Lol. Except BF1 is better than BF4, so… > > > > Lol./\ > > > > Bf1 LOOKED better, yes. > > > > But in EVERY OTHER WAY, Bf4 is/was a better game than Bf1. > > > > Bf1 sold more for multiple reasons, mostly off of the amount of advertising. Not to mention the popularity that Bf3/Bf4 built. > > > > Bf1 was a beautiful crappy game. Bf5 is not much more than a more severely broken reskin. > > > > But as the dude said a bit ago, it is all speculative opinion. > > I personally thought BF1 was garbage overall and a huge backwards step for the series. Me as well. But it did look good ---
**Author:** ![TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TFBisquit)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/more-terrible-choices-from-dice/107092/26 "2019-07-19T17:51:00Z")
Despite good sales numbers it was a big step backwards. On the plus side, console owners had a refreshing change from tired old cod. In any case, if we think of cod games, the first 2 and mw1 and 2 come to mind, with battlefield it’s certainly not bf1 that comes to mind. The trailer was a blast though. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/more-terrible-choices-from-dice/107092.md?page=1)