Dude, no one is asking DICE to ignore the italians or the italian campaign. People just want to field weapons they know, and there’s nothing wrong with that. Plus, the US army was involved in the Italian campaign, so why can’t US military equipment be involved?
You can’t say people don’t appreciate anything non-American. That’s a sweeping generalization. What you’re dealing with is a bunch of people who’ve played WW2 shooters before and want to see the more popular weapons in the game. 99% of those players (including the Americans) will take the MG42 over the Browning 20 any day, but still want to fire a Garand in game.
And it’s not entitlement if you paid upwards of 70 bucks for a product. It’s just consumer feedback.
The M1 Garand will be in assault for sure. I hope they at least make the scopes in the game like the original M1d versions. The 1903A3/A4 will be in the recon though. Also i have both and use both in my CMP matches, both should be dead on accurate as well as flat shooting from the beginning. The 03A3 has way more recoil though than the Garand by far.
I too have a CMP Garand, and while I do enjoy shooting it and agree it is very reliable I have to disagree about its accuracy. That isn’t to say it is an inaccurate rifle but it’s accuracy claims are overstated. I believe this is due to National Match rifles and accurized examples that are used to win service matches… Most run of the mill Garand’s I’ve encountered shoot about 3-4 MOA even with replacement Criterion barrels. That’s the same average accuracy as the ‘inaccurate’ modern AK.
Just out of curiosity, how accurate is a Lee Enfield No4 IRL? Becuase, at least to me, in this game, it’s quite inaccurate, at least compared to other BA rifles.
The guys i shoot my CMP matches with almost have all new barrels on their Garands and they can almost clean the targets at both 100 and 200 yards. My First match i shot a 244/300 with my Garand at 200 yards, yeah you’re not going to shoot 1MOA with the rifles all the time but then again they weren’t meant to shoot a 1MOA at long distances.
From what the symthic people said, the pistol carbines seem like discarded ideas and not something that is likely to make it to the game. I’m not sure about the machine pistols. DICE had said medics would be getting another weapon class with more range capabilities but they couldn’t go into details.My guess is it will be an existing weapon class getting moved over from an existing weapon class in the game. I think assault rifles would make the most sense from a balance perspective but I think it will end up being carbines like the m1a1 and geweher 1-5.
The No4 (the greatest boot action battle rifle in history IMO) is pretty accurate but not amazingly so… The standard was was 7 shots (out of 7) in 5-inch diameter at 200 yards and 6 out of 7 shots in a 10-inch diameter at 400 yards.
Rifles that showed exceptional accuracy were set aside and sent to Holland & Holland were they were completely broken down and rebuilt as sniper rifles with special attention given to properly bedding the stock. I can’t remember the exact accuracy acceptance for these, but most I’ve seen shot about 1.5 MOA with surplus ammo. With handloads I’ve seen under 1 MOA! The 1903 Springfield was the most inherently accurate rifle off the line but the No4 (T) by virtue of being the only sniper rifle purposely built as such was the most accurate.
Big difference between using handloads or match ammo and using government issued ammo… But even with Greek surplus 200 yards is very doable. You won’t get great groups, but you’ll hit what you’re aiming for.
I get all that, but I feel like a lot of shots either miss or don’t headshot, that say, the gewehr m95, would of been able to do. You might as well use the ARs instead, it feels that bad.
I apologize, I was misremembering… For the No4 accuracy acceptance was 6 of 7 shot in a 6x6 inch rectangle at 200 yards. The above standard was the acceptance for No4 (T) sniper rifles… about 2.5 MOA. Most shot better.
I use HXP and also 150GR italian M2ball from the 70’s. Yeah hand loads make a big different but most handloads for the Garand have to be within spec of original ammo otherwise you risk damaging the op rod.
Whoa I just got into a thread about competitive shooting IRL
only in battlefield forums haha
But to sound cool and try and fit in… I don’t own many guns, but my favorite I own is a Romak 991 AK47 Semi Auto (believe it’s from the 90s?) all polished wood and pretty. Shoots 7.62 x 39mm. I just buy the crap surplus ammo and return that sweet sweet lead to the Earth out back in the desert south of town…
It’s a good ol time shootin. Wish more of you city folk had those kind of opportunities. A lot of the gun scares ppl have would melt away with proper education and ownership of fire arms.