# Nerfed the Bomber to Death and Airplanes in General. You Crossed the Line **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 6, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113 "2018-12-06T15:33:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Krkan\_xD](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ecae2f/32.png) [@Krkan\_xD](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Krkan_xD)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/41 "2018-12-09T00:13:00Z")
> [@xxShiftyxxx](#): > > > [@Krkan\_xD](#): > > > > > [@hawk79\_360](#): > > > > > > > [@Krkan\_xD](#): > > > > > > > > Still i can make 100+ kill with ju-88,yday i made even 157 kills and i think that i can go over 200 if enemy team doesnt care about me šŸ˜‰ > > > > > > Really??? Iā€™ve never done more than 60-5 and that was pre-patch. How do we know you are not making those numbers up. And not just an infantry soldier? > > > And you can say I am not the best pilot, knowing I am not. But I consider myself decent at least. Obviously, without being a total jackass and attack the spawn locations. > > > Donā€™t take it the wrong way, but I find myself wondering how true your statement is. > > > > pre-patch i could do almost 300+ on grand ops > > now its about 100-150 > > > > As u can see on BFV tracker i have 18k kills with ju88 and my goal is to get 100k with it (could do about 2500+ kills every day) but now i gonna just do about 1k i guess even less sometimes > > How can you get 2500 kills a day?? > > Do you have Job or are you on tax payers welfare pay just to sit at home playing games. I have always wondered how these top players in the stats have time to play so many hours and get so many kills in the limited time we have in the day.. Yes i do have job,but i also have at least 8h a day to play video games thats enough to get 2k kills with ju88 i dont even need 8h ---
**Author:** ![Diabolus\_Musica](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/diabolus_musica/32/101717_2.png) [@Diabolus\_Musica](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Diabolus_Musica)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 12:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/42 "2018-12-09T00:14:00Z")
> [@CoyotexStarrk619](#): > > Oh god DICE nerfed something too much? And they did it just weeks after launch. > > Wow. Iā€™m shockedā€¦ > > Thats never happened beforeā€¦ :|šŸ˜‘ But they didnā€™t though, thatā€™s the thingā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/43 "2018-12-09T00:44:00Z")
> [@Diabolus\_Musica](#): > > > [@CoyotexStarrk619](#): > > > > Oh god DICE nerfed something too much? And they did it just weeks after launch. > > > > Wow. Iā€™m shockedā€¦ > > > > Thats never happened beforeā€¦ :|šŸ˜‘ > > But they didnā€™t though, thatā€™s the thingā€¦ They did. There was no need for the delay on the Stuka and the fighters. And there was no need for nerfing the fighters ability to starfe kill. They should have stop with the delay on bombers + less bombs for the JU88 + the 8 mg Spitfire. This was the problem. ---
**Author:** ![StukaBlayt](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@StukaBlayt](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StukaBlayt)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/44 "2018-12-09T01:16:00Z")
i donā€™t get it. airplanes was always a big part of the BF series why they are so useless in this game? i remember when i start palying BF3 i saw all these players that playing with the planes it looked so fun and i had to learn how to use one myself ! the moment i did BF offered me FUN that other shooter games wont. ---
**Author:** ![dayglowfroggy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e9a140/32.png) [@dayglowfroggy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dayglowfroggy)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/45 "2018-12-09T01:25:00Z")
Something big needed doing about the bomber it was horrible playing twisted steel killed on the spawn then around another 8 times, people were just leaving our team. I always play the objectives so our team was hit very hard. so I jumped in a spitfire and rammed him to cheers from my team. I then managed to shoot him down, they were his two deaths but he had well over a hundred kills. I was starting to feel like bf5 was a how does it feel to get blown up constantly symulator. He obviously took out the aa guns on his first few bombing runs. Not fun ---
**Author:** ![CoD\_Is\_Number\_1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/cod_is_number_1/32/101541_2.png) [@CoD\_Is\_Number\_1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CoD_Is_Number_1)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/46 "2018-12-09T01:28:00Z")
Good, now you can get back on the ground and aid your team with objectives instead of flying around padding your kill/death ratio! Excellent news for everyone. These nerfs were much needed, bombers were overpowered and needed to be brought into line. Now they have. ---
**Author:** ![StukaBlayt](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@StukaBlayt](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StukaBlayt)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/47 "2018-12-09T01:29:00Z")
> [@dayglowfroggy](#): > > Something big needed doing about the bomber it was horrible playing twisted steel killed on the spawn then around another 8 times, people were just leaving our team. > I always play the objectives so our team was hit very hard. > so I jumped in a spitfire and rammed him to cheers from my team. > I then managed to shoot him down, they were his two deaths but he had well over a hundred kills. > > I was starting to feel like bf5 was a how does it feel to get blown up constantly symulator. > > He obviously took out the aa guns on his first few bombing runs. > Not fun the bombers nerf is totally understandable but they ruined every other planes . ---
**Author:** ![Faylum](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/faylum/32/101926_2.png) [@Faylum](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Faylum)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/48 "2018-12-09T01:32:00Z")
I swear there just doesnā€™t seem to be anyone in DICE who plays vehicles of any kind. They are designed to look gorgeous but that is about as far as it goes. I hate to say it but even the tanks in BF1 are better than the ones in BFV. The planes imo only need 2 nerfs, first was the bomb dropping mechanizim, which should force pilots into another position on the plane forcing them to drop bombs looking our a trap door. This would require planes to level out and fly high in order to drop bombs and add a skill level. The other thing would be the bomb resupplies. I dont even think the needed to add a delay to when you can next use a bomb but rather make it so when a plane flew through a resupply area they would only get a small amount of bombs. This was something that even BF2 had. You had to fly a helicopter over a pad for a long time to refill and hp up, same with jets they had to make several passbys or slowly fly over a run way in order to get a full resupply of bombs. Nerfing the time between bombings is just a crappy band aid you use on a severed limb. And already we can see the problems gushing out of that decision. ---
**Author:** ![RoDM44n](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/8e8cbc/32.png) [@RoDM44n](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RoDM44n)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/49 "2018-12-09T02:33:00Z")
> [@ShoutingEnder](#): > > > [@Masqerader](#): > > > > and then continue with farming infantry with 3d reticle =\> no aim needed > > I use 3d reticle because of the first person scope is broken, it never land the bombs where you aim. Anyway iā€™m okay to remove the 3d reticle but at least the AA gun should have less range, since it still catch you when you are in your base and AA really donā€™t need any skill at all, the number of AA in the maps is ridiculous add to that that they are towable, no limited amount of AA tanks, i saw a Hamada game with 3 AA trucks !!! > Iā€™m not againt to let flying hardr and more based on skill but countering it should need skill too. ---
**Author:** ![Not-Your-Dad420](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@Not-Your-Dad420](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Not-Your-Dad420)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/50 "2018-12-09T03:57:00Z")
> [@dayglowfroggy](#): > > Something big needed doing about the bomber it was horrible playing twisted steel killed on the spawn then around another 8 times, people were just leaving our team. > I always play the objectives so our team was hit very hard. > so I jumped in a spitfire and rammed him to cheers from my team. > I then managed to shoot him down, they were his two deaths but he had well over a hundred kills. > > I was starting to feel like bf5 was a how does it feel to get blown up constantly symulator. > > He obviously took out the aa guns on his first few bombing runs. > Not fun get off the street? ---
**Author:** ![TheSacar](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thesacar/32/104967_2.png) [@TheSacar](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheSacar)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 10:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/51 "2018-12-09T10:28:00Z")
> [@CoD\_Is\_Number\_1](#): > > Good, now you can get back on the ground and aid your team with objectives instead of flying around padding your kill/death ratio! Excellent news for everyone. > > These nerfs were much needed, bombers were overpowered and needed to be brought into line. Now they have. Not really though. They arenā€™t really in line. They might have nerfed the bombersā€™ ability to spam bombs, but they also left their tail guns alone while nerfing fighter planes. The effect is that many people in fighters now just ignore bombers and no longer try and shoot them down, because it a) needs considerably more skill to down a bomber than it does to just seatswitch kill fighters and b) wasting your ammunition on the bombers can leave you defenseless against other fighters and unable to attack ground targets. . They nerfed the bombers a little and they nerved bombersā€™ counter (fighters) massively. The effect of this will be that people will continue to get bombed frequently due to a sort of peace accord in the sky. ---
**Author:** ![ShoutingEnder](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@ShoutingEnder](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ShoutingEnder)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 10:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/52 "2018-12-09T10:42:00Z")
This so called ā€œpilots truceā€ somewhat depicts what are most pilots ā€œgood forā€ =\> the planes are not exactly as we wants so screw our team, we are not gonna even try to do what we should cause itā€™s too hard and we better farm infantry as the oposit pilotsā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Smes0n](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Smes0n](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Smes0n)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 10:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/53 "2018-12-09T10:50:00Z")
Carpet bombing JU-88 mains complaining they cant get 100-0 šŸ˜ƒ The planes are fine now, they could pull back the flak dmg just a tiny bit though. ---
**Author:** ![the\_punisher\_ita](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/the_punisher_ita/32/107227_2.png) [@the\_punisher\_ita](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/the_punisher_ita)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 10:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/54 "2018-12-09T10:55:00Z")
They did so good in Battlefield 1. Battlefield V is a total mess instead. ---
**Author:** ![barnesalmighty2](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/barnesalmighty2/32/101292_2.png) [@barnesalmighty2](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/barnesalmighty2)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/55 "2018-12-09T10:58:00Z")
After playing in the air for a fair while post patch I have to say the balance is better than it was. Dogfighting is a real thing now, contrary to some comments fighters have plenty of ammo to tank out a bomber or two. It is no longer get behind and win now you need to have good aim and pick your shots which is better for skilled pilots. The AA still rarely shoots me down either donā€™t get me wrong if I mess up they will hurt me but almost never shoot me down. It was a shocker of a nerf bomb but ultimately I feel itā€™s in a better place and with some tweaking it will be great. ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Pungspark](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Major\_Pungspark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Major_Pungspark)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/56 "2018-12-09T11:10:00Z")
> [@ShoutingEnder](#): > > This so called ā€œpilots truceā€ somewhat depicts what are most pilots ā€œgood forā€ =\> the planes are not exactly as we wants so screw our team, we are not gonna even try to do what we should cause itā€™s too hard and we better farm infantry as the oposit pilotsā€¦ Well, there are plenty of good words to use for players like youā€¦but I am not gonna use any of them. ---
**Author:** ![Iightblack](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@Iightblack](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Iightblack)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/57 "2018-12-09T11:13:00Z")
Simply now you need skill and aim if you want killā€¦ before the nerf, you could play also blinded. ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 11:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/58 "2018-12-09T11:16:00Z")
Flying took hours to learn up until BF2 and even BF3. Theres absolut no learning curve in BFV. Speed and maneuverability makes it easy mode and very boring. Any beginner can fly in a straight line , drop bombs turn and repeat, especially with the low skilled JU88 and the 3th view bombsight Dogfight is just as boring and the most commom thing now I see now is to clime, hit the breaks and hope the enemy plane will fly by because of lack of speed and maneuverability. In other BF you had the ability to fly until your plane got disabled. In BFV you loose this just by getting hit a few times and thereā€™s no way out. Imo this is only maded so inexperienced pilots can get kills. BFV is the most arcade like air and probably the worst Iā€™ve experienced in 16 years. Given that DICE tries to bring infantry play back to earlier times, they have totally failed with air. ---
**Author:** ![KumanoChinpei](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/49beb7/32.png) [@KumanoChinpei](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KumanoChinpei)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 11:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/59 "2018-12-09T11:26:00Z")
Bomber or airplanes always have to be on the top of the scoreboard? I dont think so. ---
**Author:** ![IDirtY\_SeCreT](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ee7513/32.png) [@IDirtY\_SeCreT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IDirtY_SeCreT)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113/60 "2018-12-09T11:37:00Z")
> [@Iightblack](#): > > Simply now you need skill and aim if you want killā€¦ before the nerf, you could play also blinded. Haha no you donā€™t. Go play operations and spam like a noob no skill or aim neededā€¦ If I where DICE I would remove bombers from operations, but I guess that wont happen, they rather nerf bombers due to operations^^ [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113.md?page=2) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/nerfed-the-bomber-to-death-and-airplanes-in-general-you-crossed-the-line/106113.md?page=4)