New noob, new questions

MP18 trench is a better gun IMO.

Interesting. I think I’ve got a service star on it but have not used it in a long time. Now I’m wanting to go in and give that one some more play time. What are the differences to you?

That’s my go to gun when there’s a bit of distance on maps, but it’ll still do well on CQC maps.

Another question: occasionally there’s a sentry kit lying around, just up for grabs

Thing is: I can’t pick it up. Now, I’m thinking there could be two things wrong:

  • maybe you need a certain level to pick it up (it doesn’t state it, but …)
  • there’s another function that has this kind of bug: if you remap a function to a key, it works perfectly, but then in the game the info on-screen shown is the default key. If you don’t remap, you will never find this behaviour.

I have tried pressing the key (spacebar) for a long time, but that doesn’t work either.

It could be fun I guess, but I know how the sentry kit - or one of them at least - works since you can do that in the Monte Grappa single player adventure

Yes, that makes sense, but then at least 2 other weapons have very similar characteristics, and when some servers ban weapons, they NEVER ban the Hellriegel.

I think it is because they Hellriegel is unlocked at a higher level only, so the noobs wouldn’t get that one, but they get the SMG 08 earlier though.
So, I think the problem is not the gun, it’s the noobs that are suddenly using good weapons, instead of the default guns.

If there is a elite kit available you should be able to grab it, there’s no level to unlock them. The only thing I can think why you can’t grab them is there turned off because it’s a owned server you are playing on. Alot of ppl despise them. But they can be a blast to use and I’ve seen some amazing kill streaks with them.

You pick up elite kits by holding down the reload button.

If you are a ptfo player, then as you move around the map, the average engagement distance increases. The mp18 has a great hipefire and medium range tap fire. The smg08 is rubbish for all but cqc and camping.

Yea the SMG 08/18 is useless unless you are camping. Forgot to check back into whichever fantasy realm this statement actually makes sense in.

The SMG 08/18 chunks squads and throws such high damage out even when it starts falling off it can easily kill people farther than just CQB. They broke the balance of an already dumb and boring kit with it, like the lMG 08/18 and Browning. After the first two good DLC packs it just became a stale upgrade meta.

Also interesting to see medium range being a powerful niche of an assault weapon in this discussion but not on a gun that is better at that + CQB.

I dare you to knock this chip off my shoulder…

Yes. Just checked back in on my stats for the SMg08 and MP18.

I do far better with the MP18. I stand by what I said. I know you are an operations player where there is a much higher likliihood of Cqc being the norm. But in conquest it’s not.

The commo rose is the thing you pull up to give commands, or make requests and such. It also has a part that allows the squad leader to target an objective.

Next to the objective letters you will see little numbers, generally 1-4. That’s the number of other squad leaders targeting that flag. This is useful info.

No it really is not. I can still get 60+ kills with it playing CQ on a map like Empire’s Edge. It is literally broken. The modicum of accuracy gain the other SMGs have can’t even touch the volume of fire and damage output inside the range you’d bother using an SMG. Even the MP18 is not actually that great outside CQB because it has much worse fall off than an LMG and a similarly poor fire rate. This is the same reason the Ribbeyrolles is completely underwhelming and not worth chunking the good hipfire of the MP18 for.

The SMG balance has been completely gone in favour of the Thompson and SMG 08/18 since they added both, though the Thompson is more of a PC thing. No point using anything else ultimately.

But that same mid range niche you mention being somehow a strong point of the MP18 is done totally better by the RSC along with it actually being able to beat guns like the SMG 08/18 in close quarters without luck. Weird how depending on the discussion this can go from pointless to valuable.

Oh. I’m sorry. I forgot that your opinion trumps all others because you love the Symthic website.

Please accept my apologies.

I still prefer the MP18.

useless and camping you say?..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz9IIZOHsO4

I’m not the one calling the gun situationally useless and not completely broken the whole way around. I am in complete agreement that the gun is insane, it’s like taking a BF3 weapon into this game.

I’m saying that for MY play style, on the game mode that I play, that the mp18 works better. I’m sorry that you can’t accept that someone else might have a different opinion. I know that I am not alone in this view. @SMK_GAMING_2 and I were discussing this only the other day any I know he prefers the MP18 too.

Pulls up video of game on Argonne. Literally the most CQC map in BF1. Proving my point. Thanks.

And it’s entirely possible to be completely wrong about something again. Especially when your argument has no weight behind it. I prefer the RSC SMG, doesn’t upturn the actual meta of this game in any way. There really isn’t any disputing this without actually discussing the game. The SMG 08/18 destroys all SMGs and the MP18 is mediocre.

Tbh some ppl don’t care about meta, or symthic stats. They play what the like, and enjoy what works well for them. Does that make them wrong?