# New ROAD MAP - I'm Optimistic - (Soviet Union or USF!?) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 22, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774 "2019-03-22T17:17:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stahlmach](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Stahlmach](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Stahlmach)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/21 "2019-03-22T17:55:00Z")
> [@Noodlesocks](#): > > Will be America and probably Japan considering the “awakening the giant” line. Beaches ? Palm trees ? Maps with a coastal line ? Even ships ? That will never happen with this joke Company aka " New Dice ". And with their unknown Battle concept i even doubt it will be the eastern front. They cant even release the March map they promised in march but now we have to wait two months! Pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/yourlocalplumber/32/103277_2.png) [@YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/YourLocalPlumber)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/22 "2019-03-22T17:56:00Z")
> [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#): > > > [@barnesalmighty2](#): > > > > I argued and argued how bad live service would be pre launch many peeps mocked me for it. It’s all panning out exactly as I said it would and everyone is changing their tunes now. It’s too late though. > > Mate, any reasonable person knew exactly how bad live service will be. > B-b-b-but community separation… Everyone who had a at least a bit of common sense and who looked at games like R6 Siege and Battlefront 2 knew that Live Service is a recipe for disaster. ---
**Author:** ![Stahlmach](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Stahlmach](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Stahlmach)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/23 "2019-03-22T17:57:00Z")
> [@YourLocalPlumber](#): > > > [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#): > > > > > [@barnesalmighty2](#): > > > > > > I argued and argued how bad live service would be pre launch many peeps mocked me for it. It’s all panning out exactly as I said it would and everyone is changing their tunes now. It’s too late though. > > > > Mate, any reasonable person knew exactly how bad live service will be. > > B-b-b-but community separation… > > Everyone who had a at least a bit of common sense and who looked at games like R6 Siege and Battlefront 2 knew that Live Service is a recipe for disaster. Excactly. While people claimed they couldnt afford 15 Euros for well done Mappacks. ---
**Author:** ![mcRen98](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mcren98/32/102778_2.png) [@mcRen98](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mcRen98)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/24 "2019-03-22T17:57:00Z")
Oh so that Greece map that was sort of meant to look like it was going to be released at the start of Chapter 3 is going to be pushed to May, GREAT WORK THERE! ---
**Author:** ![Ernie\_Shavers](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/53a042/32.png) [@Ernie\_Shavers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ernie_Shavers)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/25 "2019-03-22T18:00:00Z")
> [@barnesalmighty2](#): > > 3 maps by fall is not good enough. You mean Spring. It’s a long wait and very disappointing. Was hoping to be shocked by an immediate map pack. ---
**Author:** ![YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/yourlocalplumber/32/103277_2.png) [@YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/YourLocalPlumber)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/26 "2019-03-22T18:00:00Z")
> [@Stahlmach](#): > > > [@YourLocalPlumber](#): > > > > > [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#): > > > > > > > [@barnesalmighty2](#): > > > > > > > > I argued and argued how bad live service would be pre launch many peeps mocked me for it. It’s all panning out exactly as I said it would and everyone is changing their tunes now. It’s too late though. > > > > > > Mate, any reasonable person knew exactly how bad live service will be. > > > B-b-b-but community separation… > > > > Everyone who had a at least a bit of common sense and who looked at games like R6 Siege and Battlefront 2 knew that Live Service is a recipe for disaster. > > Excactly. While people claimed they couldnt afford 15 Euros for well done Mappacks. Exactly. I always laughed at people who said that they cannot afford DLC maps. Like bruh, you cannot afford to put away few euros/dollars a month so save up for Premium? Are you that poor? ---
**Author:** ![r3cklesshate23ps](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/8dc957/32.png) [@r3cklesshate23ps](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/r3cklesshate23ps)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/27 "2019-03-22T18:02:00Z")
> [@Cpt\_Blitz\_26](#): > > > [@barnesalmighty2](#): > > > > 3 maps by fall is not good enough. > > 3 maps in 6 months is pretty good, because they’ll have new modes and content release within that sphere as well. > > But hey someone will always say “It’s not good enough”. > > I’m just glad we are getting any of it haha. Been waiting to hear about new factions! Normally 6 months after release they have 4-6 new maps ---
**Author:** ![Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/trokey66/32/103889_2.png) [@Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Trokey66)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/28 "2019-03-22T18:03:00Z")
But at least the community isn’t split and that’s all that matters… ---
**Author:** ![barnesalmighty2](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/barnesalmighty2/32/101292_2.png) [@barnesalmighty2](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/barnesalmighty2)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/29 "2019-03-22T18:04:00Z")
> [@Trokey66](#): > > But at least the community isn’t split and that’s all that matters… LOL no lots of em left to play other games which is waaaay better. ---
**Author:** ![JediMastaWyn](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jedimastawyn/32/102384_2.png) [@JediMastaWyn](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JediMastaWyn)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/30 "2019-03-22T18:06:00Z")
> [@Whitman\_Mayo](#): > > > [@barnesalmighty2](#): > > > > 3 maps by fall is not good enough. > > You mean Spring. > > It’s a long wait and very disappointing. Was hoping to be shocked by an immediate map pack. It is officially spring now! ---
**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/31 "2019-03-22T18:57:00Z")
> [@Cpt\_Blitz\_26](#): > > > [@barnesalmighty2](#): > > > > 3 maps by fall is not good enough. > > 3 maps in 6 months is pretty good, because they’ll have new modes and content release within that sphere as well. > > But hey someone will always say “It’s not good enough”. > > I’m just glad we are getting any of it haha. Been waiting to hear about new factions! In one sense he’s right, it isn’t good enough, at least in comparison to previous BF titles where we got much more new content much faster. Look at BF4, launched with ten maps, had thirty-three by the end of two years. Of course BF4 had paid DLC to fund all that development and BFV doesn’t, another mistake by EA which apparently thought skin sales would take the place of paid DLC–another brilliant decision, right up there with getting rid of rented servers. ---
**Author:** ![bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bran1986/32/101405_2.png) [@bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bran1986)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/32 "2019-03-22T19:03:00Z")
> [@Stahlmach](#): > > " Outpost " - new mode. > Oh great more modes nobody wanted and despite that " Awakening the Giant ", no hard proof of any new faction. That title can mean anything, especially with their " Unknown battles " concept. They said in the dev talk episode chapter 5 will have “new armies.” ---
**Author:** ![IIIIUNREALIIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/6de8d8/32.png) [@IIIIUNREALIIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IIIIUNREALIIII)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/33 "2019-03-22T19:44:00Z")
This unkonwn Battle concept is the most stupid thing. People wants famous battles (BF1942). What we get? Propably some in Australia. Live service= less money, less people working on game No one asked for new modes. They should fix Operations mode. Now this is pointless garbage in comparing to BF1 operations. ---
**Author:** ![GrumbleSG9](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/bbce88/32.png) [@GrumbleSG9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GrumbleSG9)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/34 "2019-03-22T19:53:00Z")
I’m happy enough with the roadmap. It’d be nice to have more maps than they intend but meh, it’s not like it’s costing me anything. For chapter 5, I’m also hoping EA Dice opt for some of their classic maps for the Pacific theatre, a return to Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima and Wake Island would be my preference but it’s hard to know what they’ll bring out. Their Yamamoto reference was a nice touch. ---
**Author:** ![Stahlmach](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Stahlmach](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Stahlmach)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/35 "2019-03-22T20:00:00Z")
> [@bran1986](#): > > > [@Stahlmach](#): > > > > " Outpost " - new mode. > > Oh great more modes nobody wanted and despite that " Awakening the Giant ", no hard proof of any new faction. That title can mean anything, especially with their " Unknown battles " concept. > > They said in the dev talk episode chapter 5 will have “new armies.” I wouldnt even believe this Guys if they say that the Sun will rise again on the next day. And lets be honest: If you cant even say " Russians " or " Americans " at this point but just " New Armies " its just pointless. The promised so much and they always failed. New Greece Map in March ? Oh no it will be May. Maybe… ---
**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/36 "2019-03-22T20:02:00Z")
3 maps by the end of June??? That’s it? By June BF1 had received through dlc: Verdun Heights Soissons Fort de Vaux Rupture Nivelle Nights Prise de Tahure. Not to mention exciting Operations rather than this crap. Whatever happened to the Greece map wasn’t it supposed to drop this month? Dice seems to be under the impression that players want rebranded content rather than new content. You cant put fish sauce in a big Mac and call it a filet-o-fish. And considering how irritating some of these maps are, using big Mac in this analogy is generous. We need new content. And by new content I mean actual new maps. ---
**Author:** ![Redstripe101](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/redstripe101/32/103252_2.png) [@Redstripe101](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Redstripe101)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/37 "2019-03-22T20:05:00Z")
> [@bran1986](#): > > > [@Stahlmach](#): > > > > " Outpost " - new mode. > > Oh great more modes nobody wanted and despite that " Awakening the Giant ", no hard proof of any new faction. That title can mean anything, especially with their " Unknown battles " concept. > > They said in the dev talk episode chapter 5 will have “new armies.” they also said in the 1st dev talk that the delay was because they were “cooking the best BF title in a really long time and they want to get it right”. Which is laughable. Its clear the good half left the studio after BF2. ---
**Author:** ![llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/llphantom_limbll/32/102656_2.png) [@llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/llPhantom_Limbll)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/38 "2019-03-22T20:11:00Z")
> [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > 3 maps by the end of June??? That’s it? > > By June BF1 had received through dlc: > Verdun Heights > Soissons > Fort de Vaux > Rupture > Nivelle Nights > Prise de Tahure. > > Not to mention exciting Operations rather than this crap. > > Whatever happened to the Greece map wasn’t it supposed to drop this month? > > Dice seems to be under the impression that players want rebranded content rather than new content. You cant put fish sauce in a big Mac and call it a filet-o-fish. And considering how irritating some of these maps are, using big Mac in this analogy is generous. > > We need new content. And by new content I mean actual new maps. B-b-b-b-but BR… it’s going to save the g-g-g-game… EA told us… they never lie… ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/39 "2019-03-22T20:13:00Z")
No new factions until…Fall? Am i reading right ? Oh boy. ---
**Author:** ![Kongo030](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@Kongo030](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kongo030)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774/40 "2019-03-22T20:16:00Z")
I don’t get it. I don’t need a new map every month but this looks poor. Also creating maps is a lot of effort but predictable. By know Dice should be able to forecast time and effort for creating new maps. Unlike changes to the core engine which bare big risks of breaking things and delays the map building stream should really be easy to reprioritize after the launch. Disappointing. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774.md?page=1) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/new-road-map-im-optimistic-soviet-union-or-usf/106774.md?page=3)