No automatic minimap spotting when firing!!!!

So similar to me having to purchase a new graphics card, or old gen console players having to buy the current gen to play BF1? The game itself provides certain features, but to enjoy/use them all at their fullest you have purchase something. 144Hz monitor so I can experience 144FPS, better mouse with higher polling rates and less input lag, a headset that supports surround sound…

A mic works fine for PC gaming but you’re obviously going to be missing a lot of audio cues on a console unless you have surround sound/a headset for that distance. Turning the volume up there just masks the subtle tones more.

Ugh. There’s still time, to get rid of both the awful spotting and stupid fog. Come on DICE. Balance a game outside close range and forced close range gameplay.

Ahh, yes purchase stuff to gain maximum experience, I support. But a person who plays with a 480P tv, I can still see characters in front of me or from a distance…will it be easier with 1080p, yes but it’s not that people become invisible if I play at 480P.

If you get a better mouse, can you have better response and less input lag…of course but a standard mouse will still let me aim, shoot, and move, the fundamentals of the game. It’s like saying you can fly in BF4 with a controller but can’t change weapons without a flight stick.

Please don’t confuse paying for premiums and having core functions availible for stock systems.

Your stock system can utilize the core feature just fine. You are choosing to use a separate piece of hardware (meant for a separate specific console feature) that results in limiting the functionality of an independent piece of software. And then wanting said software developer to provide/keep a feature that negates your choice to limit its basic functionality.

Like I said before…just my opinion.

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But lets remove minimap spotting (which is the least “problem” when it comes to spotting features)

Fog, or night, or anything that obstructs vision has the potential to change gameplay during a match and I like that. 3D spotting ruins that completely.

So why do they have a flare gun that spots enemies? Exactly how does that work lol. I think you guys are talking out your butes.

Magic?

Great, so now all the people with no trigger discipline have an easier time and the people with Surround Headsets get an even huger advantage.

Sounds terrific.

Fair trade if you ask me

If you ask me it sounds like half the reason people don’t play Hardcore in BF4 (the other half being how horribly balanced it is).

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But lets remove minimap spotting (which is the least “problem” when it comes to spotting features)

I really like this change. It was weird at first but this change makes the game a lot better. 3D spotting could use some work.

Instead of a dorito or class sign on top of the head, maybe the body can glow (or similar) for 1 or 2 secs and disappear.

Just an idea.

They just need to make the spot tangible. If you can’t physically see the enemy you shouldn’t be able to see a box floating above his head either.

Well, I dunno. 3D spotting is supposed to take the place of callouts from your team. If your teammate tells you there is an enemy in the second floor hiding just to the right of the 3rd window from the East, but you can’t see him, you still know he’s there. 3D spotting should fill that role.

Maybe the idea behind 3d spotting is logical on paper, but it’s implementation is atrocious. It’s getting to the point where half of our kills are from shooting enemies we can’t even see, from shooting at big neon red signs running across our screens.

That kind of pinpoint description of where an enemy is should be reserved for voice comm callouts or relegated to the minimap.

It’s true there have been some improvements in the spotting, but the icons themselves are twice the size and much more gaudy

Agreed.

I’d like to see static spots. If you’ve seen ARMA you might know what I mean. They mark a position on the map and everyone with the map can see it by looking at the map, so it provides that communication of enemy movement…without making the game into doritoshooter2016

I mean just look at this…

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I’d totally be one of the people doing that. Oh, aren’t the perks of hand-holding features like 3D spotting just grand?