# No French or Russian army? Really? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 14, 2016, 7:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006 "2016-06-14T07:01:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![volchonok1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/volchonok1/32/104011_2.png) [@volchonok1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/volchonok1)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 7:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/1 "2016-06-14T07:01:00Z")
Country choice is really strange for the multiplayer. There are a lot of minor countries, but such major countries like France and Russia are missing. Really? France fought most of the battles on the Western Front from the first to the last day of the war, and lost more than 1mln soldiers dead. Russia held off about 50% of central power forces on the eastern front and also lost more than 1mln soldiers dead. This is really weird not to include them. ---
**Author:** ![FAT\_KONAN](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/fat_konan/32/101921_2.png) [@FAT\_KONAN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FAT_KONAN)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 7:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/2 "2016-06-14T07:09:00Z")
No… but we have the harlem hellfighters from United States (even though the US barely saw any action with just 50,000 combat deaths compared to the 11,000,000 casualties between wounded and dead, from France and Russia combined). We should be grateful they paying tribute to untold stories of heroism in World War 1. ---
**Author:** ![Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bush_Kangaroo74)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 7:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/3 "2016-06-14T07:38:00Z")
What are you talking about . looks like lot of French with the new names of the map… [https://www.vg247.com/2016/06/13/battlefield-1-heres-our-first-look-at-four-of-the-games-multiplayer-maps/](https://www.vg247.com/2016/06/13/battlefield-1-heres-our-first-look-at-four-of-the-games-multiplayer-maps/) ---
**Author:** ![blackaddR](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/blackaddr/32/101355_2.png) [@blackaddR](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/blackaddR)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 7:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/4 "2016-06-14T07:42:00Z")
They’re going to release maybe 5 dlc, surely they will add the French. I thought in the 2nd Teaser trailer, it was the French in it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-85DdBR-Kgw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-85DdBR-Kgw) ---
**Author:** ![volchonok1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/volchonok1/32/104011_2.png) [@volchonok1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/volchonok1)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 7:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/5 "2016-06-14T07:42:00Z")
> [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](#): > > What are you talking about . looks like lot of French with the new names of the map… [https://www.vg247.com/2016/06/13/battlefield-1-heres-our-first-look-at-four-of-the-games-multiplayer-maps/](https://www.vg247.com/2016/06/13/battlefield-1-heres-our-first-look-at-four-of-the-games-multiplayer-maps/) There are french maps, but no playable French army in Multiplayer. Dice confirmed it in their official twitter - [https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/742475469140824064](https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/742475469140824064) ---
**Author:** ![zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/35a633/32.png) [@zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zePokar1)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 7:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/6 "2016-06-14T07:48:00Z")
They also said it was coming in a DLC. ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Siats](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Turbo\_Siats](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Turbo_Siats)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 9:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/7 "2016-06-14T09:29:00Z")
I hope they add Canada, too. ---
**Author:** ![Cryphisss](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@Cryphisss](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Cryphisss)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 9:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/8 "2016-06-14T09:35:00Z")
This was mentioned on twitter: [https://twitter.com/werejul/status/742421054426124288](https://twitter.com/werejul/status/742421054426124288) ---
**Author:** ![HCAR\_HCAR\_HCAR](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hcar_hcar_hcar/32/102184_2.png) [@HCAR\_HCAR\_HCAR](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HCAR_HCAR_HCAR)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 10:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/9 "2016-06-14T10:37:00Z")
Expect a DLC ---
**Author:** ![namvn](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/namvn/32/102918_2.png) [@namvn](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/namvn)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 10:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/10 "2016-06-14T10:53:00Z")
> [@HCAR\_HCAR\_HCAR](#): > > Expect a DLC still, main countries should be playable from day 1 ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Be\_Gone](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zombie_be_gone/32/104198_2.png) [@Zombie\_Be\_Gone](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zombie_Be_Gone)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/11 "2016-06-14T11:06:00Z")
> [@Turbo\_Siats](#): > > I hope they add Canada, too. Canada kicked butt but since we are boring no one cares about us besides our Really really really ridiculously good looking Prime Minister. ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Siats](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Turbo\_Siats](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Turbo_Siats)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/12 "2016-06-14T11:40:00Z")
> [@Zombie\_Be\_Gone](#): > > > [@Turbo\_Siats](#): > > > > I hope they add Canada, too. > > Canada kicked butt but since we are boring no one cares about us besides our Really really really ridiculously good looking Prime Minister. Well, DICE act like they care about representing the under-represented, by featuring the Harlem Hellfighters… but I think they’re actually doing it because having an appearance of caring about representing the under-represented, while appealing to very safe, popular sentiments, is good marketing. DICE feature the USA at the forefront of every Battlefield game. And there are many countries who have never been featured in a Battlefield game, who contributed more to WW1 than the USA did - Canada being one of them, and of course there are also many others. Featuring Canada in a war game would be… novel, unique, a new flavor amidst old tropes. If DICE really want to represent the under-represented, and shine light on what there’s little awareness of, and be daring with their game, then featuring a different aspect of the USA, especially in a war they were so little involved with, is not exactly doing that. It’s trying to look like it’s doing that, while doing what’s easy, normal, and safe. It’s like a Japanese restaurant saying they want to bring awareness to other styles of world food, and so instead of their normal sushi and rice, they’re going to bring attention to California rolls. It’s not even that. I think it’s ridiculous. So many interesting countries to feature, to even simply include in the game… and DICE features a country with one of the smallest roles, the same country they’ve featured in every Battlefield game? Does DICE not care about their own country? Are they simply a USA b? They could have done something new and different regarding the presentation of Bf1, but they somehow have turned a war about pretty much everyone except the USA into a photo op for the USA. It’s as dumb and clumsy as the worst of homegrown USA hubris. How about the next game not feature the USA at all? Of all countries, it’s the most over-done in Battlefield games… as in its the only country that has been in every single Battlefield game, and as the focus. At what point does DICE become sick of presenting the same ridiculous propaganda over and over? ---
**Author:** ![PEN1TENT\_MAN](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/b5ac83/32.png) [@PEN1TENT\_MAN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PEN1TENT_MAN)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 12:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/13 "2016-06-14T12:48:00Z")
> [@Turbo\_Siats](#): > > > [@Zombie\_Be\_Gone](#): > > > > > [@Turbo\_Siats](#): > > > > > > I hope they add Canada, too. > > > > Canada kicked butt but since we are boring no one cares about us besides our Really really really ridiculously good looking Prime Minister. > > Well, DICE act like they care about representing the under-represented, by featuring the Harlem Hellfighters… but I think they’re actually doing it because having an appearance of caring about representing the under-represented, while appealing to very safe, popular sentiments, is good marketing. DICE feature the USA at the forefront of every Battlefield game. And there are many countries who have never been featured in a Battlefield game, who contributed more to WW1 than the USA did - Canada being one of them, and of course there are also many others. Featuring Canada in a war game would be… novel, unique, a new flavor amidst old tropes. > > If DICE really want to represent the under-represented, and shine light on what there’s little awareness of, and be daring with their game, then featuring a different aspect of the USA, especially in a war they were so little involved with, is not exactly doing that. It’s trying to look like it’s doing that, while doing what’s easy, normal, and safe. > > It’s like a Japanese restaurant saying they want to bring awareness to other styles of world food, and so instead of their normal sushi and rice, they’re going to bring attention to California rolls. It’s not even that. I think it’s ridiculous. So many interesting countries to feature, to even simply include in the game… and DICE features a country with one of the smallest roles, the same country they’ve featured in every Battlefield game? Does DICE not care about their own country? Are they simply a USA b? They could have done something new and different regarding the presentation of Bf1, but they somehow have turned a war about pretty much everyone except the USA into a photo op for the USA. It’s as dumb and clumsy as the worst of homegrown USA hubris. > > How about the next game not feature the USA at all? Of all countries, it’s the most over-done in Battlefield games… as in its the only country that has been in every single Battlefield game, and as the focus. At what point does DICE become sick of presenting the same ridiculous propaganda over and over? My God … you probably don’t enjoy life, do you? Poor, miserable … ---
**Author:** ![PEN1TENT\_MAN](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/b5ac83/32.png) [@PEN1TENT\_MAN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PEN1TENT_MAN)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/14 "2016-06-14T13:05:00Z")
> [@FAT\_KONAN](#): > > No… but we have the harlem hellfighters from United States (even though the US barely saw any action with just 50,000 combat deaths compared to the 11,000,000 casualties between wounded and dead, from France and Russia combined). > > We should be grateful they paying tribute to untold stories of heroism in World War 1. I’m curious. What is your definition for barely involved? For a country not even on the same continent and separated by an ocean, the US mobilized 4.3 million personnel to help fight the Germans, etc. That seems to be a heavy involvement for a country not yet at its industrial prime and many thousands of miles away. I’m sorry only 50,000 combat deaths don’t meet your criteria for involvement. I’m sure the soldiers felt pretty involved. Also, the war lasted four years, and the US was involved only for one year (the last, most determinant one). So, why don’t you try comparing apples to apples? ---
**Author:** ![Ameeba37](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ameeba37/32/101194_2.png) [@Ameeba37](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ameeba37)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/15 "2016-06-14T13:08:00Z")
Harlem Hellfighters are there to appeal to the US audience which is massive. French army will be in a DLC and I expect same treatment for Russian army too. ---
**Author:** ![PEN1TENT\_MAN](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/b5ac83/32.png) [@PEN1TENT\_MAN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PEN1TENT_MAN)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/16 "2016-06-14T13:18:00Z")
> [@volchonok1](#): > > Country choice is really strange for the multiplayer. There are a lot of minor countries, but such major countries like France and Russia are missing. Really? France fought most of the battles on the Western Front from the first to the last day of the war, and lost more than 1mln soldiers dead. Russia held off about 50% of central power forces on the eastern front and also lost more than 1mln soldiers dead. This is really weird not to include them. We’ve only seen one map for an hour of gameplay at the pre-alpha stage. Why are you in such a hurry to draw conclusions about details of the full, finished game such fighting factions? ---
**Author:** ![AQuamAN221](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@AQuamAN221](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AQuamAN221)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/17 "2016-06-14T20:46:00Z")
Battlefield official Twitter confirmed MP factions as: German, Austro Hungarian, Ottoman, British, American, and Italian. Some talk of French as DLC. Really hope they do the same for Russia. Other DLC could explore other areas of the globe that was effected. Definitely not a shortage of locations and factions to choose from. ---
**Author:** ![Franky76G](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Franky76G](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Franky76G)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/18 "2016-06-15T15:10:00Z")
Shame on you EA and DICE. I bet you lost a lot of french customers and probably russians too. I’ll vote with my wallet, but not the way you expected. ---
**Author:** ![smys123](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@smys123](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/smys123)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/19 "2016-06-15T15:16:00Z")
> [@Franky76G](#): > > Shame on you EA and DICE. I bet you lost a lot of french customers and probably russians too. I’ll vote with my wallet, but not the way you expected. [https://twitter.com/werejul/status/742421054426124288](https://twitter.com/werejul/status/742421054426124288) - put that in google translate, and it confirms they will be in the game ---
**Author:** ![Franky76G](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Franky76G](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Franky76G)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006/20 "2016-06-15T15:23:00Z")
> [@smys123](#): > > > [@Franky76G](#): > > > > Shame on you EA and DICE. I bet you lost a lot of french customers and probably russians too. I’ll vote with my wallet, but not the way you expected. > > [https://twitter.com/werejul/status/742421054426124288](https://twitter.com/werejul/status/742421054426124288) - put that in google translate, and it confirms they will be in the game As a paying DLC. For two major actors of the war ? It sounds like they treat french and russians as minor countries. Because that’s how you put usually minors actors in a game, DLC. And yet they only mentionned France, not even Russia. I don’t buy that dev “un soin tout particulier”. They have been forced to answer criticism for the lack of french soldiers and that was their answer. You can argue that BF is not about History, but it is still based on it. Being treated like that is highly insulting. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-french-or-russian-army-really/102006.md?page=2)