# No standard issue bolt-action rifles? the main infantry weapon?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 8, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752 "2016-06-08T23:08:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![LEMSDK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/aeb1de/32.png) [@LEMSDK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LEMSDK)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/1 "2016-06-08T23:08:00Z")

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The 6 weapon classes:  
There are six categories of weapons.  
There are your Shotguns (great for blasting enemies from up close), SMGs (made for short range rapid-fire), LMGs (amazing at tearing things apart from medium range), Semi Autos (balanced and powerful), Sidearms (great in a pinch), and Sniper Rifles (which do exactly what you think).

unless i am mistaking if you wanna play bolt-action your gonna have to go recon/sniper class with an iron sight sniper rifle?

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**Author:** ![Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bush_Kangaroo74)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/2 "2016-06-08T23:57:00Z")

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> [@LEMSDK](#):
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> unless i am mistaking if you wanna play bolt-action your gonna have to go recon/sniper class with an iron sight sniper rifle?

Well that would suck…

I was hopping the starwars BF was going to be the game to make me up grade my 360 to a xbox 1… But sfter looking at the game play I stuck to my 360…

If BF1 game play doesn’t do it for me, I will not up grade my 360.. 😉

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**Author:** ![B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/b3antown_b3a5t/32/101262_2.png) [@B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/B3ANTOWN_B3A5T)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/3 "2016-06-09T00:05:00Z")

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> [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](#):
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> > [@LEMSDK](#):
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> > unless i am mistaking if you wanna play bolt-action your gonna have to go recon/sniper class with an iron sight sniper rifle?
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> Well that would suck…
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> I was hopping the starwars BF was going to be the game to make me up grade my 360 to a xbox 1… But sfter looking at the game play I stuck to my 360…
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> If BF1 game play doesn’t do it for me, I will not up grade my 360.. 😉

What is this 2012? Ditch that 360 dude…

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/4 "2016-06-09T00:14:00Z")

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> [@LEMSDK](#):
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> iron sight sniper rifle?

A “sniper rifle” in that era is literally a normal bolt-action rifle with a scope, not the other way around.

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**Author:** ![Troopperfofo](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Troopperfofo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Troopperfofo)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/5 "2016-06-09T00:26:00Z")

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I was thinking about this for a while since I was also upset that Bolt actions didn’t seem like they are going to be standard. I think Scout is basically your rifleman in a sense. I know it seems weird but I tend to think of Assault as a Trench raider or sturmtruppen and not a standard infantry. I think its hard to try and put WW1 into a 4 class system like Battlefield.

Try condensing all these into a squad of 4 [https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=182831658](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=182831658) .

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**Author:** ![Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bush_Kangaroo74)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/6 "2016-06-09T00:41:00Z")

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What is this 2012? Ditch that 360 dude…[/quote]

Why go next generation consoles if none of the games have done it for me.. Yes the maps look good, but so far the game play has been the problem,

All classes should start with a bolt-action iron sight .. iron sight is called open sight were I’m from…

Try shotting a 22 with open sight at a beer bottle top from 100m away .. I have . It’s called skill..

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/7 "2016-06-09T01:02:00Z")

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> [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](#):
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> All classes should start with a bolt-action iron sight .. iron sight is called open sight were I’m from…

That would be absolutely horrible.

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**Author:** ![Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bush_Kangaroo74)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/8 "2016-06-09T01:22:00Z")

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> [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > All classes should start with a bolt-action iron sight .. iron sight is called open sight were I’m from…
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> That would be absolutely horrible.

Not in my book, That will make BF 1 a skill based games. Like it should be..eg BFBC2 and BF3 😃

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**Author:** ![BluntObjctOfHate](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bluntobjctofhate/32/101377_2.png) [@BluntObjctOfHate](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BluntObjctOfHate)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/9 "2016-06-09T01:30:00Z")

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> [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](#):
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> > [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > > All classes should start with a bolt-action iron sight .. iron sight is called open sight were I’m from…
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> > That would be absolutely horrible.
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> Not in my book, That will make BF 1 a skill based games. Like it should be..eg BFBC2 and BF3 😃

Exactly, it’s time for the casual gamer to get off the couch and sweat alittle ,and if they can’t handle that you shouldn’t be playing BF.

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**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/10 "2016-06-09T01:33:00Z")

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> [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](#):
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> > [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > > All classes should start with a bolt-action iron sight .. iron sight is called open sight were I’m from…
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> > That would be absolutely horrible.
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> Not in my book, That will make BF 1 a skill based games. Like it should be..eg BFBC2 and BF3 😃

yeah, i remember when BC2 and BF3 gave everyone bolt actions.

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**Author:** ![Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bush_Kangaroo74)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/11 "2016-06-09T01:59:00Z")

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> [@BluntObjctOfHate](#):
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> > > > All classes should start with a bolt-action iron sight .. iron sight is called open sight were I’m from…
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> > > That would be absolutely horrible.
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> > Not in my book, That will make BF 1 a skill based games. Like it should be..eg BFBC2 and BF3 😃
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> Exactly, it’s time for the casual gamer to get off the couch and sweat alittle ,and if they can’t handle that you shouldn’t be playing BF.

Exactly, If people can’t play a skill based first person shooter, then maybe first person shooter are not the game for them, they should try princess and pony games..

bolt-action iron sight all the way… 😃

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**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/12 "2016-06-09T02:01:00Z")

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> [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](#):
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> > > > > All classes should start with a bolt-action iron sight .. iron sight is called open sight were I’m from…
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> > > > That would be absolutely horrible.
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> > > Not in my book, That will make BF 1 a skill based games. Like it should be..eg BFBC2 and BF3 😃
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> > Exactly, it’s time for the casual gamer to get off the couch and sweat alittle ,and if they can’t handle that you shouldn’t be playing BF.
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> Exactly, If people can’t play a skill based first person shooter, then maybe first person shooter are not the game for them, they should try princess and pony games..
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> bolt-action iron sight all the way… 😃

you’d just get frustrated after you get dominated even harder. its probably not in the best interest of someone who cant even break 20% accuracy on a semi auto to be asking for bolt actions only.

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/13 "2016-06-09T02:05:00Z")

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lmfao - look at my BF4 profile. I pretty much ONLY use bolt-action rifles and don’t use AA at all, and even I’m claiming making everyone start out with bolt-action rifles is going to slow the game down to a crawl and produce more campers than it will achieve anything else. It’s not a direction Battlefield needs to go in. Sorry, but the game is going for authenticity, not realism. 98% of soldiers in WWI may have been using bolt-action rifles, but that would make for a game that a huge majority of the BF playerbase wouldn’t enjoy at all. Otherwise, Verdun would actually be a popular game.

There are already DROVES of people that complain about bolt-action rifle users in BF4, as there were in BF3, and BC2.

If it started everyone out with bolt-actions, the first month of the game would be a dreadful experience. Sorry, bolt-action rifles aren’t the only weapons that require skill to use. An unskilled gamer is going to be horrible no matter what weapon they use, unless the weapon literally aims for them.

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**Author:** ![jeffmasman](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jeffmasman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jeffmasman)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/14 "2016-06-09T02:07:00Z")

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Guys I’m pretty sure bolt action rifles will be available for all classes, in BF4 weapons were shared across classes

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**Author:** ![Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bush_Kangaroo74)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/15 "2016-06-09T02:07:00Z")

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> [@Sir-xer21](#):
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> > > > > > All classes should start with a bolt-action iron sight .. iron sight is called open sight were I’m from…
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> > > > > That would be absolutely horrible.
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> > > > Not in my book, That will make BF 1 a skill based games. Like it should be..eg BFBC2 and BF3 😃
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> > > Exactly, it’s time for the casual gamer to get off the couch and sweat alittle ,and if they can’t handle that you shouldn’t be playing BF.
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> > Exactly, If people can’t play a skill based first person shooter, then maybe first person shooter are not the game for them, they should try princess and pony games..
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> > bolt-action iron sight all the way… 😃
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> you’d just get frustrated after you get dominated even harder. its probably not in the best interest of someone who cant even break 20% accuracy on a semi auto to be asking for bolt actions only.

They will get better or glasses, one of the two will happen first…

bolt-action iron sight at the start for all classes, then as you get better you can unlock all the other guns for each class.. A skill based first person shooter, I would really like to see.. 😃

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/16 "2016-06-09T02:07:00Z")

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> [@BluntObjctOfHate](#):
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> > > > All classes should start with a bolt-action iron sight .. iron sight is called open sight were I’m from…
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> > > That would be absolutely horrible.
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> > Not in my book, That will make BF 1 a skill based games. Like it should be..eg BFBC2 and BF3 😃
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> Exactly, it’s time for the casual gamer to get off the couch and sweat alittle ,and if they can’t handle that you shouldn’t be playing BF.

Also, this quote is ridiculous, as NO Battlefield game has ever been centered around bolt-action or precision rifles.

The most present bolt-actions in a BF game were in BF1942 when two classes had them as primary weapons, and it hasn’t been done since.

Saying “BF isn’t the game for you” because people don’t want EVERYONE running around with bolt-actions makes absolutely no sense, and is a ridiculous claim.

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**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/17 "2016-06-09T02:11:00Z")

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> [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](#):
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> > > > > > > All classes should start with a bolt-action iron sight .. iron sight is called open sight were I’m from…
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> > > > > > That would be absolutely horrible.
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> > > > > Not in my book, That will make BF 1 a skill based games. Like it should be..eg BFBC2 and BF3 😃
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> > > > Exactly, it’s time for the casual gamer to get off the couch and sweat alittle ,and if they can’t handle that you shouldn’t be playing BF.
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> > > Exactly, If people can’t play a skill based first person shooter, then maybe first person shooter are not the game for them, they should try princess and pony games..
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> > > bolt-action iron sight all the way… 😃
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> > you’d just get frustrated after you get dominated even harder. its probably not in the best interest of someone who cant even break 20% accuracy on a semi auto to be asking for bolt actions only.
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> They will get better or glasses, one of the two will happen first…
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> bolt-action iron sight at the start for all classes, then as you get better you can unlock all the other guns for each class.. A skill based first person shooter, I would really like to see.. 😃

i dont understand why you’re arguing for a mechanic that would very clearly hurt you.

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/18 "2016-06-09T02:15:00Z")

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> [@jeffmasman](#):
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> Guys I’m pretty sure bolt action rifles will be available for all classes, in BF4 weapons were shared across classes

They’re confirmed to only be available to the Scout class.

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**Author:** ![Troopperfofo](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Troopperfofo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Troopperfofo)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/19 "2016-06-09T02:25:00Z")

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I would like to see all everyone with mainly bolt actions. But idk how many people could handle it a lot of people give up at Verdun because they are pretty much forced to use bolt actions or their first game is against Zab.

[http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/52124405741137056/19358BC4E596442963F11903A8E6779319B39BFC/](http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/52124405741137056/19358BC4E596442963F11903A8E6779319B39BFC/)

But back to forcing everyone to use Bolt actions. As it would prove more authentic like I said in Verdun a lot of people cant get the grips of Bolt actions and usually choose just to use a sidearms or try and play a class with more unique weapons. One of the reasons we see a spam of American squads right now in Verdun is because everyone just wants to use the M1911 and the BAR.

This wouldn’t be very good for a battlefield game which is faster paste game.

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**Author:** ![Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bush_Kangaroo74)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/no-standard-issue-bolt-action-rifles-the-main-infantry-weapon/101752/20 "2016-06-09T02:30:00Z")

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Loqtrall It’s a ww1 game, That’s why bolt action rifles , next you would want to see laser guns in BF 1…

Sir-xer21 yes 20% accuracy with DMR that because BF4 is a fast pass game were burst fire works better then taking you time to get a kill..

I do like what there doing with the snipper class to stop the camping.. Thumbs up for that…

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