# Phantom Trainee & "273" Mystery: Data I've Gathered Thus Far **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 28, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358 "2014-03-28T22:21:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![xBIGSHOWx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/a8b319/32.png) [@xBIGSHOWx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBIGSHOWx)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/1 "2014-03-28T22:21:12Z")
I know there are more than enough posts on this already, but I figured I would post my findings and some of the investigating my friends and I have gathered…credit goes to SHOOTERxMcGAVIN of [INDgamers.com](http://www.indgamers.com) and 2 of his friends. **Beginning with Battlelog** - When in the Battlelog “command prompt”, the message **“Please wait a moment and try again.”** comes up apparently randomly. Not true! In typing the clues that have been discovered thus far, like “500”, “Maotsetung”, or “Scorpio” results in the same text coming up over and over. I’ve come to the conclusion that the keyphrase comes up when a clue associated to the password has been discovered. You can literally piece together what clues matter and which don’t if you get the keyphrase to come up, allowing you to come up with a list through order of deduction. - (Referencing [the post I found initially](http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/20vbep/battlefield_4_phantom_trainee_and_nukes_final) and the [“273” mystery post](http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/21cnq1/battlefield_4_naval_strike_273_easter_egg) I found with all posts giving clues -_thank you_) - When at the “273” door on Nansha, putting the flashlight on the camera makes the red light appear to be flashing green. Using a .45 Magnum with a scope and tactical light/flashlight, if you shine the light on the camera and use the scope to zoom in, you’ll notice the light no longer looks green. The camera light blinks red (on) and a light-red (off). I noticed that it’s a light display issue, because when not shining a light on the camera, it blinks quickly on 1 second intervals. The blink is switching from 1 color of red to another, which in the tunnel looks like the same shade of red. When shining the light on it and zooming into it, one of the shades is a lighter red, not green as previously thought. - At [KevinSimpson1942’s Battlelog profile](http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/user/kevinsimpson1942), his Presentation states: > On that damaged ship, I was the wreck > Tuning guitars without strings > Unglamorous work, cleaning the deck > How did they dare clip my wings? From what I’ve gathered, the riddle is completely metaphoric. _“On that damaged ship, I was the wreck”_ means he was the cause of the damage, as he says “I was the wreck” is the same way of saying you’re guilty of something as “I am the knife” means you’re a killer. _“Tuning guitars without strings”_ is a logical deduction. A guitar **with** strings is a musical instrument, thus a guitar **without** strings is nonetheless an instrument, just no longer musical. Tuning instruments would be the clue. We’ve deduced that what it means is on a ship, you either tune up instruments (such as navigational equipment on a ship) or when it comes to pinpointing a weapon trajectory, you fine tune the instruments necessary to hit your target. _“Unglamorous Work, Cleaning the deck”_ refers to something being done, but not necessarily being pretty or clean about it…while “cleaning the deck” is a way of saying “wiping out/off everything on an object”. For instance, when someone says “that fire cleaned the deck” would mean a fire destroyed everything. Another way of saying it would be “wiping the deck clean”. _“How did they dare clip my wings?”_ refers to being “grounded” when someone or something has been either decommissioned or stopped in mid-air flight. While pilots often refer to their demotion or suspension as “having their wings clipped”, a plane or a weapon is often referred to having their “wings clipped” when being decommissioned or being shot out of the air. Since the riddle, in metaphor, seems to be targeting a particular object, or set of objects, I don’t think this is in relation to a person, so the 4th line in the riddle is actually referring to a vehicle or weapon. Taking the entire riddle into account and its definitions, I can safely say the riddle is about a weapon. Allow me to rephrase the riddle with what I believe to be the definition: > I’m a missile that damaged a ship, > You fine tune my instruments for accuracy, > I may do dirty work, but I wipe out what I hit, > Yet I fell from the sky. What objects do you know of fall from the sky and clear out everything in an area (on the landscape)? 1 of 2 things. Either an in-game cruise missile or a nuke. While a cruise missile requires pinpoint accuracy in the game, I don’t exactly think this is what the riddle is referring to, yet I could be wrong. When referencing the other clues, I can say with a degree of certainty, that the riddle is referring to a nuclear bomb or ICBM. - From the other clues on the post by _LachlanCotter_, I agree with “273” being in reference to Mao’s book, not the USS Robalo (SS-273). Perhaps I read incorrectly on the history of the Robalo, but I believe the ship was sunk by the Japanese, which has no bearing on BF4. Plus, the fact that when I enter “maotsetung” on the phantom program command prompt, it gives me the message “Please wait a moment and try again” as I’ve stated above, hinting that the clues point toward Mao’s book. - The clues at [KevinSimpson1942.com](http://KevinSimpson1942.com), from what I can tell, are as follows: -Yellow post-it on above rafters has astrological symbol for “Scorpio” -Ladder has large brown parcel wrapping paper, rolled into cone shape, going through 3rd step. -Point at which paper and ladder meet, ladder has Nordic symbol for “Aerial” or “Antenna” written in sharpie. -2 wire gates have locks on them; one with padlock, another with a bike chain lock. -bottle at base of ladder has either “500” or “OOS” written on it in sharpie. -black cable (coaxial?) wrapped, tied to rafters next to post-it note -unknown photo on the floor, left of the ladder -metal door on steel frame on the right with no handle/knob (large black object is not a handle, rather a large scratch on door) -(Audio) Sound of idle wind Judging from what my friends and I can tell, with the gates being locked, I might be tempted to agree with the video posted by JackFrags [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player\_embedded&v=Q1R9fAFPcqA](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q1R9fAFPcqA) , in which he states that the locks or lockers could refer to Operation Locker. Why? The audio on the site is of idle wind, which is the noise you hear when in the outer portions of the map. The Nordic symbol for Aerial/Antenna may refer to the antenna that is roughly **500m** off in the distance away from the map outside. Also, to the left of that is a large set of flames, in a sort of “T” pattern. Fallen plane? “How did they dare clip my wings” could mean a plane that was shot out of the sky, possibly. Also, entering the word “Locker” in the Phantom Program command prompt gives me the keyphrase. Ironically enough, the one and only map KevinSimpson1942 played (as shown on his battlelog profile) was Operation Locker. - The “500” on the bottle, as we’ve found out, could actually be “OOS”, which is an acronym for “Out of Service”, which could be a reference to a ship or submarine that has been decommissioned. - The Morse code light at the “273” door is connected to a relay box, which is wired through the wall, leading to a switch on the other side. Someone inside the door must be flicking the light on/off, debunking those that say it isn’t Morse code. Also, the code translating into “E1” could mean a variety of things. By searching on Wikipedia, all relevant search results for “E1” are as follows: E1 Tracer - Early warning craft USS E-1 (SS-24) - E-class submarine of the US Navy E1 North-South Expressway Northern Route - Malaysia (South China Sea) E-1 - Rank for US Airmen, Private, and Seaman Recruits E1 Grade - Difficulty in rock climbing (Op: Locker?) E-1 rocket engine - fueled by liquid Take from that as you wish, all are possible hints with some kind of connection to either previous clues or something in BF4. - On KevinSimpson1942’s profile, his emblem shows 4 planets (not 3 as believed in some posts). Clicking his emblem once on his profile and once again on his detailed summary, shows his emblem details. 2 hints to this: The previous emblems and current emblem are as follows: Shield, & (and), 4 planets. The 4 planets shown are Earth, Mars (red planet, slightly smaller than Earth), Pluto (smallest planet), and Uranus (not Saturn, as the ring is vertical, not diagonal). I believe the posts, in which the theory is that Pluto and Uranus symbolize “Plutonium” and “Uranium”, which are 2 necessary components for a nuclear bomb. One material is injected into the other to cause a chain reaction, thus a nuclear explosion. What Mars has in relation to any of this? Your guess is as good as mine. Earth, I assume, is where this takes place. Otherwise, the other interpretation to this is a planetary alignment, of some sort. Maybe something in Chinese folklore? Or a discovery made by China? I haven’t cross referenced this yet. The order of the emblems, though, has me thinking is a clue in itself. Shield & “?”…perhaps Lead? Considering Lead is a radioactive shield, often used by anyone/everyone dealing with radioactive materials. Tell me what you think of our findings. ---
**Author:** ![drewarren19](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@drewarren19](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/drewarren19)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2014, 11:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/2 "2014-03-28T23:52:24Z")
Great read. The shield emblem might have something to do with the ballistic shield coming later as part of dlc. ---
**Author:** ![crdotx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crdotx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crdotx)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 12:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/3 "2014-03-29T00:12:08Z")
Please taunt us more with how you have access to NS while the rest of us do not. ---
**Author:** ![scopedblade](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@scopedblade](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/scopedblade)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/4 "2014-03-29T04:21:20Z")
Gentlemen, The Kevin Simpson 1942 has only played one game and it Conquest on operation locker. At The D objective where all the cell blocks are, the large lights hanging from the ceiling are flickering in what i believe to be morse code. That is the only instance of flickering light I could find on the map so it must hold some significance. I cannot translate morse code but I am certain I’m on to something here. ---
**Author:** ![obs\_snakelet](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/b487fb/32.png) [@obs\_snakelet](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/obs_snakelet)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 4:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/5 "2014-03-29T04:33:11Z")
The sound on the KevinSimpson1942 webpage is not of idle wind. Try turning it up louder and listening. It sounds like ship creaking in the ocean and then some sort of hovercraft or boat departing. ---
**Author:** ![TIMBR0SLICE](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9d8465/32.png) [@TIMBR0SLICE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TIMBR0SLICE)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 11:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/6 "2014-03-29T11:37:40Z")
the planets could also be related to greek/rome gods. mars = war, pluto= underworld, and uranus = sky. ---
**Author:** ![xBIGSHOWx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/a8b319/32.png) [@xBIGSHOWx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBIGSHOWx)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/7 "2014-03-29T21:19:16Z")
XBox One: Doesn’t work when you want it to and works when you least expect it. Surprisingly, NS was released 2 days after the announcement of the delay on the console for Premium. Annoyed everyone, especially me. ---
**Author:** ![xBIGSHOWx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/a8b319/32.png) [@xBIGSHOWx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBIGSHOWx)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 9:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/8 "2014-03-29T21:22:41Z")
Although true, the one very out of place thing on the entire map that has no explanation are the fires in the distance when you’re outside. Mind you, these are supposed to be the Himalayan mountains. No towns nearby, especially not ones to cause that massive fire. From what I could tell, those fires are (in relation to the one mountain top with the antenna) about twice the distance. I estimate the antenna to be around 700+ meters out, thus the fires have to be 1400+ meters out. Pretty big flames, if you ask me… ---
**Author:** ![xBIGSHOWx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/a8b319/32.png) [@xBIGSHOWx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBIGSHOWx)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 9:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/9 "2014-03-29T21:25:10Z")
Possibly, but I don’t think the entire mystery of KevinSimpson1942 would centralize on a weapon/item already announced. ---
**Author:** ![xBIGSHOWx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/a8b319/32.png) [@xBIGSHOWx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBIGSHOWx)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 9:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/10 "2014-03-29T21:30:02Z")
It’s triple layered. The primary layer is idle wind, while the secondary layer is something hitting the surface (sand, wind, etc.). The third layer is an engine, but you really can’t make the determination that it’s a boat or hovercraft, as a hovercraft has a loud fan, much like “Air Boats” do. In fact, the sound of the fan overrides the sound of the engine, thus wouldn’t be a hovercraft. Boat engine it could be, but boat engine sounds are very distinctive compared to a truck. It sounds more like a truck leaving, especially since motors on boats don’t have multiple gears, trucks do (even if it’s automatic). The sound comes off like it’s shifting at some point. I could be wrong and you could be right. ---
**Author:** ![FURY-J](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@FURY-J](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FURY-J)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 10:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/11 "2014-03-29T22:58:28Z")
i just noticed something that was very visible ,the river in wave breaker forms a Y inside the cave 😃 and kevinsimpson attic picture there is a Y ---
**Author:** ![crdotx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crdotx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crdotx)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/12 "2014-03-29T23:17:21Z")
Yes. Its annoying to hear how I paid 60$ for something I’m not getting when I should be. And yet here you are taunting me with the fact you have access to it. ---
**Author:** ![HeniCide\_reddit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@HeniCide\_reddit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HeniCide_reddit)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/13 "2014-03-30T00:05:23Z")
If you go into Team Deatchmatch version of Lost Islands. Which is in the carrier. You will see a Osprey which has its wings folded up. If you look on its back tail. It stands out. There is a Ram/Goat/Bull carved into it. Which could be another zodiac? Due to having the scorpio logo in the kevin simpson image. Also if you take an EOD bot into one of the buildings at G. Place it around the flickering light. You hear a pick axe like sound. Then drive that EOD Bot to the next building and the sound is louder. Sounds more like a electric drill and it syncs with the flickering light the audio. Also I done an overlay of Scorpio on Lost Island and going to try those out. After I also I am going to check Operation Locker again (someone said flickering lights around D) and Hainan Resort. Which has the two wrecked ships at sea. I thought about maybe getting on top of a carrier and seeing if anything on the deck. What I was wondering about, is if each line of the ‘poem’ relates to the four maps in NS. But so far I havnt found things on the maps. Past Lost Island which has a finger print symbol in plane cockpit. People thought letters in it, I thought looked like another zodiac Virgo. Also , I found an Arrow on a Beach on Nasha Strike. It formed out of pieces of like net, and scraps. Which made me wonder if it was a Sagittarius zodiac. On Operation Mortar. There is a painting in the huts. That has two fish in similar setup as Pisces. Which I was wondering if was another zodiac. Also wondering, if the planets in the emblem relate to zodiacs- the Ram/Goat/Bull carving on Lost Island Team Deathmatch could help identify planets in the emblem. I am also thinking about blowing up all the walls with lights outside the cave. If that will change anything in the cave. ---
**Author:** ![HeniCide\_reddit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@HeniCide\_reddit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HeniCide_reddit)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/14 "2014-03-30T00:24:41Z")
Also someone was wondering if they trick with the flickering lights is that you need to lock the lights in an order E,A,D,G,B and E again. Due to being the keys for guitar tuning. So like you lock the lights in that order on or off (or maybe on, then off?). Then it will trigger something- was due to the guitar bit in the poem. Also, some people think the clue is in the single player anyone tried that? I am guessing maybe the wrecked Aircraft carrier ? ---
**Author:** ![obs\_snakelet](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/b487fb/32.png) [@obs\_snakelet](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/obs_snakelet)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/15 "2014-03-30T02:10:57Z")
Either way, idle wind is not how I would describe what you hear when you turn the volume up 😛 Personally, I think the sound file is probably just used to make an audible link to Naval Strike and probably does not have much significance to the overall puzzle. EDIT: One other thing I’d like to point out is about your first dot point. “Please try again in a moment” happens all the time and I don’t think it has any relevance to what you type. It is more likely that you have tried too many times within the past 30s/minute and it is done to limit guesses and reduce server spam. I just entered the word “blip” four times in a row and on the forth time it gave me that message. I kept entering it and I am fairly certain it is 3 guesses every 30 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![Moryyy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Moryyy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Moryyy)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 11:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/16 "2014-03-30T11:52:15Z")
Its true what you say. But gis point is that no matter how much time is between the tries, at certaib words this Message is repeated all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Jevans5](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a587f6/32.png) [@Jevans5](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jevans5)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2014, 8:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/17 "2014-03-31T08:58:16Z")
If your going to the ships on hainnan try blowing up the ship (if u dont know how to jack frags has a video on it) ---
**Author:** ![electric\_mayhem](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/9d8465/32.png) [@electric\_mayhem](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/electric_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2014, 2:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/18 "2014-03-31T14:31:59Z")
maybe 273 is a reference to the shining or the Apollo moon landing? ---
**Author:** ![Mattler119](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbce88/32.png) [@Mattler119](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Mattler119)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/19 "2014-04-01T22:12:36Z")
His Presentation states changed ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/e/f/effe1e168d1ad7fe899f229129acfb1254b73d43.png) ---
**Author:** ![icetemplemonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/b5e925/32.png) [@icetemplemonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/icetemplemonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 9:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358/20 "2014-04-02T09:13:51Z")
kevin posted a new vid on utbe [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/phantom-trainee-273-mystery-data-ive-gathered-thus-far/111358.md?page=2)