# plane 100kills doing circle all the game **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 7, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269 "2019-09-07T21:59:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Luka156](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/luka156/32/106902_2.png) [@Luka156](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Luka156)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/1 "2019-09-07T21:59:00Z")
```auto ``` Hello It’s me, there is not enough way to abbat a plane. Often in the game their score is 90 kills 0 death. The anti-aircraft are misplaced and offer a limited range. Tanks are busted in one shoot … ---
**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/2 "2019-09-07T22:41:00Z")
Yeah the counters to the planes have been severely neutered and Dice Sweden hasn’t done anything about. Don’t know if they’re just choosing not to or if they’ve been too busy fixing all the things they’ve broken with each patch. ---
**Author:** ![NLBartmaN](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/f9ae1b/32.png) [@NLBartmaN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NLBartmaN)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/3 "2019-09-07T23:23:00Z")
> [@Luka156](#): > > Hello > It’s me, there is not enough way to abbat a plane. Often in the game their score is 90 kills 0 death. > > The anti-aircraft are misplaced and offer a limited range. Tanks are busted in one shoot … There are enough ways to counter a bomber with ease (bombers even need a serious buff in damage they can take, effects from bombs and defense against fighters), but there are no ways from the ground to counter things like the insane OP Spitfire VA fighter that also has insane good bombs. Even with a mobile AA you need a really noob fighter pilot to take down his fighter plane. The plane balance is very poor. ---
**Author:** ![CSO7777](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@CSO7777](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CSO7777)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/4 "2019-09-07T23:31:00Z")
Actually planes are much of less a problem in BFV than in BF1. Reducing the frequency of bombs by making the planes have to resupply, is probably the best change Dice has made to planes (compared to BF1). The biggest problem is bombers. You cannot have bombers and balance them very well with infantry. Infantry will still feel the bombs are just cheap kills, no matter what you do. At least they haven’t put B-17’s in the game (yet), like they put heavy bombers in BF1. Fjell is still awful and feels like a bad BF1 map, with a lot of random deaths to bombers. ---
**Author:** ![SQHDP](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@SQHDP](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SQHDP)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/5 "2019-09-07T23:33:00Z")
There’s something that can destroy planes easily. The bug that shoots you to death without a reason ---
**Author:** ![ChiefSniper](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/chiefsniper/32/106554_2.png) [@ChiefSniper](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChiefSniper)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/6 "2019-09-08T12:06:00Z")
A wild guess… was this on Fjell? It’s the worst for it. ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/7 "2019-09-08T14:38:00Z")
> [@ChiefSniper](#): > > A wild guess… was this on Fjell? It’s the worst for it. unlikely cause both sides have enough planes for that to not happen. Most likely it is some breakthrough map ---
**Author:** ![thamac15](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thamac15/32/103737_2.png) [@thamac15](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/thamac15)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/8 "2019-09-08T16:00:00Z")
It’s BFV,…just delete it. ---
**Author:** ![Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Matty101yttam)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/9 "2019-09-08T16:26:00Z")
[![Video: BFV Plane Takedowns](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/3/1/31d2048fec1e4f7a5b354fb75ffabab1145567a1.jpeg "BFV Plane Takedowns") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgJDRTyN9cY) Learn to use the panzer it takes a bit to get the timing right but its effective. Problem is most people don’t even try to learn it so most teams miss so many opportunities to take out planes. ---
**Author:** ![ChiefSniper](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/chiefsniper/32/106554_2.png) [@ChiefSniper](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChiefSniper)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/10 "2019-09-08T17:08:00Z")
> [@Hawxxeye](#): > > > [@ChiefSniper](#): > > > > A wild guess… was this on Fjell? It’s the worst for it. > > unlikely cause both sides have enough planes for that to not happen. Most likely it is some breakthrough map For real? Half of the CQ rounds I’ve played on Fjell are dominated by a bomb raper. ---
**Author:** ![jroggs](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jroggs/32/106829_2.png) [@jroggs](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jroggs)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/11 "2019-09-08T17:39:00Z")
> [@Matty101yttam](#): > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgJDRTyN9cY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgJDRTyN9cY) > > Learn to use the panzer it takes a bit to get the timing right but its effective. > Problem is most people don’t even try to learn it so most teams miss so many opportunities to take out planes. The Planezerfaust is a trick shot, not a proper counter. You’re very good at it, but most players will never be able to hit those shots with anything other than very rare luck. ---
**Author:** ![Woodlbrad](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@Woodlbrad](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Woodlbrad)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/12 "2019-09-08T17:48:00Z")
This is what happens when they make AA garbage. ---
**Author:** ![PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/precisionwing/32/103161_2.png) [@PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PrecisionWing)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/13 "2019-09-08T18:02:00Z")
The best way is to use a fighter. If the bomber wants to switch seats, here is a tip. Bombers seat switching is highly predictable, you can check your radar, during seat switching, bombers icon will disappear for a second, or if the bomber stopped maneuvering, its the time he wants to change to gunner seat. During those times, fly over it, and do a high loop. Do no chase or turn away from it, cuz it will leave you in the middle of its crosshair. ---
**Author:** ![m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/m1k3ol)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/14 "2019-09-08T18:18:00Z")
> [@PrecisionWing](#): > > The best way is to use a fighter. > If the bomber wants to switch seats, here is a tip. > Bombers seat switching is highly predictable, you can check your radar, during seat switching, bombers icon will disappear for a second, or if the bomber stopped maneuvering, its the time he wants to change to gunner seat. During those times, fly over it, and do a high loop. Do no chase or turn away from it, cuz it will leave you in the middle of its crosshair. Most planes do the seat switch while climbing to both avoid being flown over with a loop and to drastically reduce their speed to have a better shot… BUT gunner seats have limited side movement, approach them directly from a side with a quick turn and break (align with a wing), only thing they can do is switch back and move away, by that time they are already heavily damaged or at least a wing taken off, so they won’t go away fast enough and if they didn’t had enough altitude they could stall and crash while trying to go back up ---
**Author:** ![Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Matty101yttam)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/15 "2019-09-08T18:23:00Z")
> [@jroggs](#): > > > [@Matty101yttam](#): > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgJDRTyN9cY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgJDRTyN9cY) > > > > Learn to use the panzer it takes a bit to get the timing right but its effective. > > Problem is most people don’t even try to learn it so most teams miss so many opportunities to take out planes. > > The Planezerfaust is a trick shot, not a proper counter. You’re very good at it, but most players will never be able to hit those shots with anything other than very rare luck. Most don’t try so it never gets a chance to transition from luck to skill, i rate it alongside grenade launchers, people got VERY good at them a few years back, so good they had to tone them down, panzer could be the same. All they need to do is have it as an assignment and people will start learning a whole new skillset they never realised was an option, they had to do the same in bf1 because most people wouldn’t fire at planes with lmg’s, they needed to be coaxed into it and once they started people would do it all the time. ---
**Author:** ![GrizzGolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/grizzgolf/32/102129_2.png) [@GrizzGolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GrizzGolf)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/16 "2019-09-08T18:47:00Z")
I wish I could fly that well ---
**Author:** ![SendTheInfantry](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sendtheinfantry/32/107135_2.png) [@SendTheInfantry](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SendTheInfantry)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/17 "2019-09-08T19:49:00Z")
> [@Luka156](#): > > ```auto > > ``` > > Hello > It’s me, there is not enough way to abbat a plane. Often in the game their score is 90 kills 0 death. > > The anti-aircraft are misplaced and offer a limited range. Tanks are busted in one shoot … Well, you have AA emplacements and the AA-bullets of the MMG. But since BOTH are useless now against airplanes, [Why is the anti aircraft gun so useless???](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-the-anti-aircraft-gun-so-useless/107252) good pilots have a field day. They cant be countered atm UNLESS you have an AA tank (if the map even has tanks) and even that they can escape from far too easily. The instant repair nonsense on top of that does not help either. One good pilot on the forums even thinks a bomber should have a 50/50 chance to kill it’s hard counter, the mobile AA. Crazy, right? DICE neglected this game in all it’s important ‘Battlefield’ aspects it seems. Both in scale of maps, gunmechanics and vehiclebalance. ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/18 "2019-09-08T19:56:00Z")
> [@ChiefSniper](#): > > > [@Hawxxeye](#): > > > > > [@ChiefSniper](#): > > > > > > A wild guess… was this on Fjell? It’s the worst for it. > > > > unlikely cause both sides have enough planes for that to not happen. Most likely it is some breakthrough map > > For real? Half of the CQ rounds I’ve played on Fjell are dominated by a bomb raper. Because your teams allows it to happen. Each side has like 3 available AAs and 6 plane slots ---
**Author:** ![Luka156](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/luka156/32/106902_2.png) [@Luka156](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Luka156)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/19 "2019-09-08T21:00:00Z")
NEED A FIX SOON ---
**Author:** ![YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/yourlocalplumber/32/103277_2.png) [@YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/YourLocalPlumber)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269/20 "2019-09-08T22:08:00Z")
> [@m1k3ol](#): > > > [@PrecisionWing](#): > > > > The best way is to use a fighter. > > If the bomber wants to switch seats, here is a tip. > > Bombers seat switching is highly predictable, you can check your radar, during seat switching, bombers icon will disappear for a second, or if the bomber stopped maneuvering, its the time he wants to change to gunner seat. During those times, fly over it, and do a high loop. Do no chase or turn away from it, cuz it will leave you in the middle of its crosshair. > > Most planes do the seat switch while climbing to both avoid being flown over with a loop and to drastically reduce their speed to have a better shot… > > BUT > > gunner seats have limited side movement, approach them directly from a side with a quick turn and break (align with a wing), only thing they can do is switch back and move away, by that time they are already heavily damaged or at least a wing taken off, so they won’t go away fast enough and if they didn’t had enough altitude they could stall and crash while trying to go back up Or just attack from far way while being above it. Spitfire can easily melt bombers from 300 meters away before they will get a chance to do anything. BF109 is a different story now as rockets got nerfed into oblivion. The best approach I found it to gain max altitude and dive straight onto a bombers with 20mm cannons while closing distance at extreme speed. Once you get very close you can fire the rockets to finish it off. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/plane-100kills-doing-circle-all-the-game/107269.md?page=2)