# Please DICE nerf all spotting gadget

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 7, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393 "2019-11-07T18:25:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/41 "2019-11-10T06:06:00Z")

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Spottting if anything needs to be buffed so a plane does not need to fly almost to ground level to see the spotted infantry markers

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**Author:** ![M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/m1ck3y-xix/32/106908_2.png) [@M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M1ck3y-XIX)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/42 "2019-11-10T11:07:00Z")

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The spotting flair is just like cheating, in this game, its difficult to make différence in a true cheater use wallhack, and spotting sytem who spotting trougt smoke,‘n’ brush, i’m just back of one game, so many player insult me of cheater, because i kill them in grass with the OP tomatoe spottin for plow … GG dice ..

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**Author:** ![Art3misJinx](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/art3misjinx/32/106469_2.png) [@Art3misJinx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Art3misJinx)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 11:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/43 "2019-11-10T11:15:00Z")

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> [@xKusagamix](#):
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> Well, i play Recon alot to spot people, but the Flare really need a duration nerf, it’s now last too long tbh. It make hiding your self in smoke grenade is not a good option anymore.  
> And to the OP, no, you can’t spot enemies when they are in their smoke grenade.

I disagree. If it needs to be nerfed, the radius should be nerfed. If you wanted to help your team as recon before the buff, you would spend most of your time running back and forth between ammo crates to pick up more flares because of the short duration. Reducing the duration is just going to bring that problem back. Not to mention that you can shoot it with a single bullet.

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**Author:** ![M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/m1ck3y-xix/32/106908_2.png) [@M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M1ck3y-XIX)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/44 "2019-11-10T11:56:00Z")

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Limite to 1, or reduce radius,

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**Author:** ![SendTheInfantry](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sendtheinfantry/32/107135_2.png) [@SendTheInfantry](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SendTheInfantry)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 12:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/45 "2019-11-10T12:14:00Z")

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The spotting flare spam is too much after their buff. Youre often not able to shoot them either.

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**Author:** ![xKusagamix](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xkusagamix/32/104118_2.png) [@xKusagamix](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xKusagamix)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/46 "2019-11-10T13:03:00Z")

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> [@M1ck3y-XIX-](#):
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> The spotting flair is just like cheating, in this game, its difficult to make différence in a true cheater use wallhack, and spotting sytem who spotting trougt smoke,‘n’ brush, i’m just back of one game, so many player insult me of cheater, because i kill them in grass with the OP tomatoe spottin for plow … GG dice ..

You can’t spot through smoke with the Flare and Spotting scope, the only thing can spot enemies through smoke is Suppression.

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**Author:** ![VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/ce7236/32.png) [@VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VincentNZ)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/47 "2019-11-10T13:07:00Z")

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> [@xKusagamix](#):
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> > [@M1ck3y-XIX-](#):
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> > The spotting flair is just like cheating, in this game, its difficult to make différence in a true cheater use wallhack, and spotting sytem who spotting trougt smoke,‘n’ brush, i’m just back of one game, so many player insult me of cheater, because i kill them in grass with the OP tomatoe spottin for plow … GG dice ..
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> You can’t spot through smoke with the Flare and Spotting scope, the only thing can spot enemies through smoke is Suppression.

Generally not, but from certain angles the icons might appear, same with any environmental smoke, ground fog, weather effects etc.. For actual smoke grenades it can happen, but I have no idea how that triggers or how close to the edge you have to be.

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**Author:** ![M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/m1ck3y-xix/32/106908_2.png) [@M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M1ck3y-XIX)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/48 "2019-11-10T13:59:00Z")

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> [@xKusagamix](#):
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> > [@M1ck3y-XIX-](#):
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> > The spotting flair is just like cheating, in this game, its difficult to make différence in a true cheater use wallhack, and spotting sytem who spotting trougt smoke,‘n’ brush, i’m just back of one game, so many player insult me of cheater, because i kill them in grass with the OP tomatoe spottin for plow … GG dice ..
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> You can’t spot through smoke with the Flare and Spotting scope, the only thing can spot enemies through smoke is Suppression.

False i can see doritos spotting in smoke dude

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**Author:** ![ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ragnarok013/32/103211_2.png) [@ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ragnarok013)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/49 "2019-11-10T16:19:00Z")

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> [@xeNizKing](#):
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> > [@VincentNZ](#):
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> > It does not work through anything really. You are 3d spotted, when you are visible. In a game that has such a poor visibility it is pretty much needed. Besides the only spotting gadget really is the flare and is the direct teamplay gadget of the recon class. Like the medic pouch or the ammo crate, you might as well nerf them when you nerf the flare.
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> There isn’t any 3d spotting in the game. There is a difference to the spotting in BF5 and BF1/3/4

xeNizKing you mean BF2142\BC1\BC2\BF3\BF4\BFH\BF1 3D spotting has been in a lot more Battlefield titles than the community thinks since it debuted in 2142.

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**Author:** ![M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/m1ck3y-xix/32/106908_2.png) [@M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M1ck3y-XIX)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/50 "2019-11-11T20:26:00Z")

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The spoting doritos is not necessary in this game, there is already a lot of supress spotting, and we can put icon tag, so the 3d spot is so ugly !!!

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**Author:** ![mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mf_shro0m/32/106941_2.png) [@mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mf_shro0m)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/51 "2019-11-11T20:40:00Z")

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> [@M1ck3y-XIX-](#):
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> The spoting doritos is not necessary in this game, there is already a lot of supress spotting, and we can put icon tag, so the 3d spot is so ugly !!!

Lol no there’s not

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**Author:** ![M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/m1ck3y-xix/32/106908_2.png) [@M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M1ck3y-XIX)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/52 "2019-11-11T20:55:00Z")

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you are unable to open your eyes ?? or just full assist player ??

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**Author:** ![M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/m1ck3y-xix/32/106908_2.png) [@M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M1ck3y-XIX)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/53 "2019-11-12T16:27:00Z")

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or juste remove gadget spottin for vehicule !!

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**Author:** ![M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/m1ck3y-xix/32/106908_2.png) [@M1ck3y-XIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M1ck3y-XIX)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/54 "2019-11-12T19:16:00Z")

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The spotting should be

- Sniper flair spotting for ONLY squad… and plane… Reduce time and Radius, no showing ennemi statique ont minimap , just mooving ennemies.  
-Remove spotting gadget from VL.  
-Reduce distance of working.

FIX it trought smoke and wall and more…

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**Author:** ![SillySinStorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sillysinstorm/32/107156_2.png) [@SillySinStorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SillySinStorm)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/55 "2019-11-12T19:35:00Z")

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> [@M1ck3y-XIX-](#):
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> you are unable to open your eyes ?? or just full assist player ??

> [@M1ck3y-XIX-](#):
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> or juste remove gadget spottin for vehicule !!

I play with my eyes open which is why spotting isn’t an issue. I imagine if you’re camped in your “vehicule” getting cheap kills spotting may be an issue. Here’s a novel idea: push forward and help your team PTFO. You big K/D padding baby.

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**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/56 "2019-11-12T20:01:00Z")

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> [@M1ck3y-XIX-](#):
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> you are unable to open your eyes ?? or just full assist player ??

Because we can see spotted people with our eyes closed… right  
Humans eyes have not evolved to easily discern pseudo 3d people in a flat screen among dense and similarly colored textures, especially when they are not moving

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**Author:** ![mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mf_shro0m/32/106941_2.png) [@mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mf_shro0m)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/57 "2019-11-12T22:55:00Z")

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Look dude spend the next month only attacking and then tell us how you feel about spotting

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**Author:** ![llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/llphantom_limbll/32/102656_2.png) [@llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/llPhantom_Limbll)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 11:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/58 "2019-11-12T23:00:00Z")

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> [@Hawxxeye](#):
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> > [@M1ck3y-XIX-](#):
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> > you are unable to open your eyes ?? or just full assist player ??
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> Because we can see spotted people with our eyes closed… right  
> Humans eyes have not evolved to easily discern pseudo 3d people in a flat screen among dense and similarly colored textures, especially when they are not moving

Replying to an abvious bait posts isn’t the smartest idea, mate.

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**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/59 "2019-11-13T04:38:00Z")

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> [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#):
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> > [@Hawxxeye](#):
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> > > [@M1ck3y-XIX-](#):
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> > > you are unable to open your eyes ?? or just full assist player ??
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> > Because we can see spotted people with our eyes closed… right  
> > Humans eyes have not evolved to easily discern pseudo 3d people in a flat screen among dense and similarly colored textures, especially when they are not moving
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> Replying to an abvious bait posts isn’t the smartest idea, mate.

I had been waiting for an opportunity to make that statement to the next one who beats the tired “use your eyes” dead horse.

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**Author:** ![VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/dec6dc/32.png) [@VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VOLBANKER)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 6:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-dice-nerf-all-spotting-gadget/107393/60 "2019-11-13T06:45:00Z")

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The flare buff has made flanking a lot harder, often impossible - it takes only one Recon who is spam-shooting flares in all directions on a flag to detect any flanks.

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