# Please get rid of the skill stat for bf1 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 21, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463 "2016-05-21T17:04:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GuN\_sLiNgErXD15](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gun_slingerxd15/32/102144_2.png) [@GuN\_sLiNgErXD15](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GuN_sLiNgErXD15)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/21 "2016-05-22T21:26:00Z")
Pretty comprehensive again rev nice work, you’d probably also find about some habits you didn’t realise you had. ---
**Author:** ![DarkFlame588](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/darkflame588/32/101634_2.png) [@DarkFlame588](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DarkFlame588)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/22 "2016-05-22T21:28:00Z")
Say P1 has a skill of 250 and P2 has a skill of 500. Depending on who killed who, the stat would increase or decrease accordingly. Larger gap in skill would mean a larger increase/decrease. P1 kills P2. P1’s skill increases a lot while P2’s skill decreases a lot. P2 Kills P1. P2’s skill increases a little while P1’s skill would decrease a little as well. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/23 "2016-05-22T21:35:00Z")
@KingCraftUK , Here’s what I meant about an “Overview”. Same basic layout, but it would include “all” player time, for every mode/map etc. Similar to what we get on the details page, but with more … details. ![gMRjHJ7.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/2/a/2a1cbe03ad717da857b3c6da8b0a2216b4928286.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/24 "2016-05-22T21:39:00Z")
> [@GuN\_sLiNgErXD15](#): > > Pretty comprehensive again rev nice work, you’d probably also find about some habits you didn’t realise you had. Part of my job is to design, calculate, code and display statistical data for my clients. Once you know all the variables and data streams it’s pretty straight forward. Player stats are for the subject player first, then everyone else. Map based stats highlights/calculates all the good, bad and ugly in one page vs 376 battle reports. ---
**Author:** ![KingCraftUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kingcraftuk/32/102522_2.png) [@KingCraftUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KingCraftUK)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/25 "2016-05-22T21:40:00Z")
> [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > @KingCraftUK , Here’s what I meant about an “Overview”. Same basic layout, but it would include "all player time, for every mode/map etc. > > ![gMRjHJ7.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/2/a/2a1cbe03ad717da857b3c6da8b0a2216b4928286.jpeg) Ah, I see. Personally I don’t mind having more stats like this, but my main point here would be that a stat like “skill” could be changed to instead be a reflection of the combination of all these individual stats. It could for example take into account your efficiency as a medic as well as your ability as a shooter as well as your efficiency within a squad (or as part of the larger team). I think as it stands the skill stat is perhaps a little confusing and misguided, but it has the potential if done well to be the most true reflection of a players ability. And that’s a statistic that I am all for. ---
**Author:** ![keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/keith4436)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/26 "2016-05-22T21:40:00Z")
I totally agree, skill stat is totally broken. It needs to be gone. Its like a 1972 Cadillac that’s loaded and as soon as you drive it off the lot its lost 10,000 in value. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/27 "2016-05-22T21:46:00Z")
> [@DarkFlame588](#): > > Say P1 has a skill of 250 and P2 has a skill of 500. Depending on who killed who, the stat would increase or decrease accordingly. Larger gap in skill would mean a larger increase/decrease. > > P1 kills P2. P1’s skill increases a lot while P2’s skill decreases a lot. > P2 Kills P1. P2’s skill increases a little while P1’s skill would decrease a little as well. I see what your saying. But the example I gave would be exactly like taking everyone of your Golmud conquest battle reports and combining the data to give you a complete overview of your performance (stats) for Golmud Railway. That’s all that it is. Infact from a coding perspective that’s how it would be generated for the most part. ---
**Author:** ![keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/keith4436)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/28 "2016-05-22T21:49:00Z")
Who cares how good you are. You are still gonna play. The 8 year old that begged his mama to buy the game is gonna play. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/29 "2016-05-22T21:53:00Z")
> [@KingCraftUK](#): > > Ah, I see. Personally I don’t mind having more stats like this, but my main point here would be that a stat like “skill” could be changed to instead be a reflection of the combination of all these individual stats. It could for example take into account your efficiency as a medic as well as your ability as a shooter as well as your efficiency within a squad (or as part of the larger team). > > I think as it stands the skill stat is perhaps a little confusing and misguided, but it has the potential if done well to be the most true reflection of a players ability. And that’s a statistic that I am all for. Skill as a stat is completely broken. I mean if you thoroughly review a player’s reports you could get a better understanding of “how it pertains to them”. A quick glimpse … nice number … ok he/she is a good player just doesn’t cut it. But that’s how 90%+ use it. That 900 Skill player could be a B flag metro support player. 2 ammo boxes deployed, spamming nades and suppression fire on a high ticket server. The example stats would highlight it in neon and strobes. ---
**Author:** ![Explicits\_Sister](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/explicits_sister/32/101899_2.png) [@Explicits\_Sister](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Explicits_Sister)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/30 "2016-05-22T21:57:00Z")
> [@thejamman123](#): > > I would like to point out that OP is only saying this because she cant get a high skill stat There is some truth to this , not gonna lie : / ---
**Author:** ![KingCraftUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kingcraftuk/32/102522_2.png) [@KingCraftUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KingCraftUK)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/31 "2016-05-22T22:05:00Z")
> [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > [@KingCraftUK](#): > > > > Ah, I see. Personally I don’t mind having more stats like this, but my main point here would be that a stat like “skill” could be changed to instead be a reflection of the combination of all these individual stats. It could for example take into account your efficiency as a medic as well as your ability as a shooter as well as your efficiency within a squad (or as part of the larger team). > > > > I think as it stands the skill stat is perhaps a little confusing and misguided, but it has the potential if done well to be the most true reflection of a players ability. And that’s a statistic that I am all for. > > Skill as a stat is completely broken. I mean if you thoroughly review a player’s reports you could get a better understanding of “how it pertains to them”. A quick glimpse … nice number … ok he/she is a good player just doesn’t cut it. But that’s how 90%+ use it. > > That 900 Skill player could be a B flag metro support player. 2 ammo boxes deployed, spamming nades and suppression fire on a high ticket server. The example stats would highlight it in neon and strobes. True, but that’s a problem with its current implementation is all I’m saying. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t potential for it. In the example you’ve given there the aim would be that it would be reflected in the stat. If we have the ability to have all these amazingly detailed stats, then it wouldn’t be too big of a stretch to create a reasonable combination of them. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/32 "2016-05-22T22:19:00Z")
> [@KingCraftUK](#): > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > [@KingCraftUK](#): > > > > > > Ah, I see. Personally I don’t mind having more stats like this, but my main point here would be that a stat like “skill” could be changed to instead be a reflection of the combination of all these individual stats. It could for example take into account your efficiency as a medic as well as your ability as a shooter as well as your efficiency within a squad (or as part of the larger team). > > > > > > I think as it stands the skill stat is perhaps a little confusing and misguided, but it has the potential if done well to be the most true reflection of a players ability. And that’s a statistic that I am all for. > > > > Skill as a stat is completely broken. I mean if you thoroughly review a player’s reports you could get a better understanding of “how it pertains to them”. A quick glimpse … nice number … ok he/she is a good player just doesn’t cut it. But that’s how 90%+ use it. > > > > That 900 Skill player could be a B flag metro support player. 2 ammo boxes deployed, spamming nades and suppression fire on a high ticket server. The example stats would highlight it in neon and strobes. > > True, but that’s a problem with its current implementation is all I’m saying. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t potential for it. In the example you’ve given there the aim would be that it would be reflected in the stat. If we have the ability to have all these amazingly detailed stats, then it wouldn’t be too big of a stretch to create a reasonable combination of them. I agree. The data that Dice pipes downstream should be enough to code a proper “Proficiency/Efficiency” stat. Skill algo as is: Skill is normalized (as in between 0 and 1), but for display purposes it’s multiplied by 1000 and rounded to nearest integer. In other words 100% perfect skill would be 1000. OTOH, someone scoring no points at all, would have score of 0. For a single game skill 60% of skill comes from SPM (capped at 1000), 30% comes from KPM (capped at 3.0), and 10% comes from KDR (capped at 5.0). BTW. note that these calculations use SPM which excludes any bonuses and boosts (ie. as shown on scoreboard), while BattleLog displays SPM including bonuses and boosts. To calculate this you first have to normalize each component: ```auto normalized_SPM = min(SPM/1000.0, 1) normalized_KPM = min(KPM/3.0, 1) normalized_KDR = min(KDR/5.0, 1) ``` Now apply the percentages : ```auto normalized_skill = .6 * normalized_SPM + .3 * normalized_KPM + .1 * normalized_KDR skill = round(normalized_skill * 1000) ``` So above is skill for just one game. But what’s is displayed in BattleLog is overall skill, which is calculated to the formula is 90% skill prior to current game + 10% current skill: ```auto new_skill = round(.9 * old_skill + .1 current_game_skill) ``` In the battle report you can also see how the skill changed, which is calculated as follows: ```auto skill_diff = new_skill - old_skill ``` It’s pretty much based on Kills (KDR & KPM). Vehicle only players gain a huge advantage from the get go. ---
**Author:** ![Explicits\_Sister](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/explicits_sister/32/101899_2.png) [@Explicits\_Sister](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Explicits_Sister)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 11:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/33 "2016-05-23T11:58:00Z")
> [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > [@KingCraftUK](#): > > > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > > > [@KingCraftUK](#): > > > > > > > > Ah, I see. Personally I don’t mind having more stats like this, but my main point here would be that a stat like “skill” could be changed to instead be a reflection of the combination of all these individual stats. It could for example take into account your efficiency as a medic as well as your ability as a shooter as well as your efficiency within a squad (or as part of the larger team). > > > > > > > > I think as it stands the skill stat is perhaps a little confusing and misguided, but it has the potential if done well to be the most true reflection of a players ability. And that’s a statistic that I am all for. > > > > > > Skill as a stat is completely broken. I mean if you thoroughly review a player’s reports you could get a better understanding of “how it pertains to them”. A quick glimpse … nice number … ok he/she is a good player just doesn’t cut it. But that’s how 90%+ use it. > > > > > > That 900 Skill player could be a B flag metro support player. 2 ammo boxes deployed, spamming nades and suppression fire on a high ticket server. The example stats would highlight it in neon and strobes. > > > > True, but that’s a problem with its current implementation is all I’m saying. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t potential for it. In the example you’ve given there the aim would be that it would be reflected in the stat. If we have the ability to have all these amazingly detailed stats, then it wouldn’t be too big of a stretch to create a reasonable combination of them. > > I agree. The data that Dice pipes downstream should be enough to code a proper “Proficiency/Efficiency” stat. > > Skill algo as is: > > Skill is normalized (as in between 0 and 1), but for display purposes it’s multiplied by 1000 and rounded to nearest integer. In other words 100% perfect skill would be 1000. OTOH, someone scoring no points at all, would have score of 0. > > For a single game skill 60% of skill comes from SPM (capped at 1000), 30% comes from KPM (capped at 3.0), and 10% comes from KDR (capped at 5.0). > > BTW. note that these calculations use SPM which excludes any bonuses and boosts (ie. as shown on scoreboard), while BattleLog displays SPM including bonuses and boosts. > > To calculate this you first have to normalize each component: > > ```auto > normalized_SPM = min(SPM/1000.0, 1) > normalized_KPM = min(KPM/3.0, 1) > normalized_KDR = min(KDR/5.0, 1) > > ``` > > Now apply the percentages : > > ```auto > normalized_skill = .6 * normalized_SPM > + .3 * normalized_KPM > + .1 * normalized_KDR > skill = round(normalized_skill * 1000) > > ``` > > So above is skill for just one game. But what’s is displayed in BattleLog is overall skill, which is calculated to the formula is 90% skill prior to current game + 10% current skill: > > ```auto > new_skill = round(.9 * old_skill + .1 current_game_skill) > > ``` > > In the battle report you can also see how the skill changed, which is calculated as follows: > > ```auto > skill_diff = new_skill - old_skill > > ``` > > It’s pretty much based on Kills (KDR & KPM). Vehicle only players gain a huge advantage from the get go. Impressive 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lexman61](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lexman61/32/102635_2.png) [@lexman61](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lexman61)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 12:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/34 "2016-05-23T12:09:00Z")
Why not replace the numbers with a handful of simple colored graphs (green-orange-red). With a quick glance you could see if your gaming is improving or not. ---
**Author:** ![keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/keith4436)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/35 "2016-05-23T12:29:00Z")
You people forgot to include a graph of the internets of the players. The internet is tied directly to the skill stat. And some OORs with crummt internet dominate the game. Factor in interference for some players, faulty equipment and high traffic on internet makes for packet loss. So player A shoots player B in the back. Player B turns around and shoots player A. Player A dies. This happens a lot because of packet loss. ---
**Author:** ![keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/keith4436)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/36 "2016-05-23T13:24:00Z")
Now in Explicits case she shoots players A,B,C,D,E,F and G and they all die. So don’t believe her when she says she is not skillful. ---
**Author:** ![Bohunk\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bohunk_l/32/101385_2.png) [@Bohunk\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bohunk_l)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 1:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/37 "2016-05-23T13:39:00Z")
“Skill” is simply to general and loosely defined of a word. What skill? Gunplay? Team play? What about vehicles or objective play? It actually tries to factor in some of those but that makes the stat even more convoluted somehow, because people who know the equation can boost it, and people who don’t are left wondering why they lost 3 skill on what they thought was one of their best rounds that week ---
**Author:** ![keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/keith4436)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/38 "2016-05-23T14:45:00Z")
> [@Bohunk\_l](#): > > “Skill” is simply to general and loosely defined of a word. > > What skill? Gunplay? Team play? What about vehicles or objective play? > > It actually tries to factor in some of those but that makes the stat even more convoluted somehow, because people who know the equation can boost it, and people who don’t are left wondering why they lost 3 skill on what they thought was one of their best rounds that week I definitely think that if there was no skill stat, then people wouldn’t go shoot I’m not gonna play any more because of this dum skill stat. ---
**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/39 "2016-05-23T18:50:00Z")
> [@aDurtyCan](#): > > i dont think accuracy is a factor i have a 1.23 k/d with the m60 and 8% accuracy on 685 kills lol…instead there should be more of a highlight on team/squad based scoring maybe even how many teamkills? I cant count how many times i have been killed by blueberries being stupid with vehicles…not counting the times i was being dumb and standing in the street =( “I can’t aim, so accuracy cant be a factor in skill”. accuracy should be a factor. not saying we need a skill stat, but if you dont judge a player by his accuracy when determining what you think of him, you’re missing a huge component of real skill. > [@DarkFlame588](#): > > Say P1 has a skill of 250 and P2 has a skill of 500. Depending on who killed who, the stat would increase or decrease accordingly. Larger gap in skill would mean a larger increase/decrease. > > P1 kills P2. P1’s skill increases a lot while P2’s skill decreases a lot. > P2 Kills P1. P2’s skill increases a little while P1’s skill would decrease a little as well. yes, this is how part of BF4’s skill stat and all of BF3/BC2’s skill stat worked. Its a basic ELO system and is designed to measure head to head confrontations. something which doesnt often exist in a pure form in battlefield. > [@KingCraftUK](#): > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > If EA/DICE wanted to build a statistical profile on every player they could do so with a degree of accuracy that it would make even Google jealous. From a flag capping/defending pattern for each map; what flags you prefer to cap and or defend, specific loadout you’ll use for each map at start, down to how often you actually check a corner on op locker before sprinting past. > > > > The data is there, so why not use a bit of it to provide more in depth statistics? What we’ve been given as stats for the last 5+ years is a very simplistic and shallow outline. Some of the stats are even flawed by approach and can be manipulated/bloated in certain situations without highlighting the situation clearly. > > > > example: 150,000 scout heli kills, SPM (998), KDR (98.5), KPM (15.4) … Only plays dawnbreaker and floodzone. > > > > Anyway, I’ve taken an approach that calculates statistics from map to map for a specific player. In Battlelog you would have a stats page that offers a tab for each game mode (Conquest, Rush, Obliteration etc). > > > > Under each tab there would be a list of maps with a thumbnail and basic stats for that game mode, grouped by DLC. Clicking a map thumbnail or map name would load the full stats for that particular map as shown below. I might do a mockup for the other layouts listed above at a later date. > > > > Full resolution ( > > > > ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/2/c/2c0e195fe905ee1564869c9e8f25fedf16afa645.jpeg) > > > > ) > > > > ![Bal1yxK.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/2/c/2c0e195fe905ee1564869c9e8f25fedf16afa645.jpeg) > > I don’t want to be rude as you’ve obviously put a good amount of work into that. But personally I think it might be a little overboard. Realistically although the player themselves might find some of it interesting to know, I doubt many people would bother scrolling through pages upon pages of statistics in order to formally review another player. This is why I think that the skill stat could potentially be a useful one. It’s all about trying to represent how good a player is, in the most digestible format possible. It’s not quite there yet but I think it would be far more interesting for them to properly review and tweak it, than to adopt a defeatist attitude and simply remove it. not only is it overboard, its almost certainly far more than DICE is willing to invest server wise to accomplish. DICE limited us to 100 friends because they didnt want to invest in more server. They limited our battlereports and they stop archiving after a few months. you really think they’re going to give every player a 20 map stat breakdown? hell no. We dont need this. just give us the basic stats. Jesus, we dont need a thesis on a player’s map to map performance. we dont need a map breakdown that spm, accuracy, KD and weapon stats dont already tell us. objective related stats help too. but this is way more information than anyone needs and it would take a lot of effort and investment to pull off for a full playerbase. > [@keith4436](#): > > You people forgot to include a graph of the internets of the players. The internet is tied directly to the skill stat. And some OORs with crummt internet dominate the game. Factor in interference for some players, faulty equipment and high traffic on internet makes for packet loss. So player A shoots player B in the back. Player B turns around and shoots player A. Player A dies. This happens a lot because of packet loss. you’r not going to be able to graph this without turning origin into spyware, and frankly, it doesnt matter. if you blame OOR players for scrubbing, you just suck, period. playing OOR or with packet loss isnt an advantage. this myth needs to die. ---
**Author:** ![keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/keith4436)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463/40 "2016-05-23T19:36:00Z")
You sound like someone else I know. If you have crummy internet or you are so far away, sometimes your internet drains the server and you own. Fact of host based servers. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463.md?page=1) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/please-get-rid-of-the-skill-stat-for-bf1/101463.md?page=3)