# PS4/XB Might be getting region lock or ping cap... **URL:** \ **Category:** Console\ **Created:** [June 21, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032 "2014-06-21T20:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/221 "2014-06-27T20:02:00Z")
There was no frame history reduction…it was no where in the patch notes..had they implemented it.it would of been in the notes ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/222 "2014-06-27T20:10:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _iSpyRecon said:_ > Or they could just simply adjust the latency based lag compensation to the point were it brings balance (as intended) and not advantage/disadvantage. The latest patch touched on that with the reduction of the history frame rate by 1/2 second. It was not enough or, not directly related to high ping abuse. Ping limits are best but if not feasible, simply adjust the compensation to deal with ping abuse. Players will, by their own accord, stop region jumping once they realize they actually no longer have a great advantage. I suppose this suggestion makes to much sense. I will speak with my wallet. All the unbalance and unfairness this game brings and yet the forum is filled with knuckleheads (respectfully lol) waiting to purchase the next DLC. You think the lag is bad now - wait until you go CQC! lol Ispy that wont do it wont, because the load of lag players have on the server…even with the compenstion turned into “no compensation” they would still join and mess the servers… That is why it would fail…It has to eliminated from the root is it sounds bad but is the way to go… > [@](#): > > Fouad1983 said: > Ok let’s be clear: Ping lock can’t be release and i’m 95% sure about that. > So beside asking for the impossible, let’s ask for the ONE they can easily give us: Show the ping of every players on the scoreboard! > That way every Admin can clear his own server ! > > End of Story I heard it also, hear me out They would not be breaking any policies as long we were the ones implementing the ping lock\cap The only thing they had to do was to put **the tools at our disposal** …for pc You rent Ur own server and can apply the procon Here we are limited to DicEa servers… > [@](#): > > HighPingKick said > > Ping lock can happen and it would be easy for them to do so… > > Some Pc servers already have a HIGH ping auto kick feature.. That is a third party program called Pro con… ---
**Author:** ![GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/a4c791/32.png) [@GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GeTgoodNOOB)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/223 "2014-06-27T20:13:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _alcatraz669 said:_ > There was no frame history reduction…it was no where in the patch notes..had they implemented it.it would of been in the notes > [@](#): > > We’ve started rolling out a new Battlefield 4 update for PS4. A short period of downtime is expected with this update. > > All update details below: > > June 04 PS4 Game Update Notes > > - Improved/reduced explosion induced camera shake > - Rental server bug fixes > - Character collision improvements > - Fix to reduce object damage mismatch between client/server. > - Fix explosion packs not being able to be shot sometimes > - Improvements for client side packet loss > - Added controller option to swap functionality of the bumper and trigger buttons > - Physics optimization for Naval Strike Wave Breaker rocks > - Carrier - Invisible walls stopping bullets fix > - High Frequency Network update > - Added High frequency “bubble” updating player movement, stance, rotation, damage and projectiles at a separate rate on foot and in vehicles > -Added option to control client side update rate setting > - Fix for an issue where jets being attacked by other jets would not receive damage at certain altitudes This is from CTE PATCH – NEXT RELEASE The next release in the retail game will include a bulk of the changes and fixes made on the CTE. We think this collection of changes to the game, which were tested through the CTE is significant enough to warrant its own release as early as possible. INCLUDED FEATURES The upcoming release will contain the following features and fixes (PC, see coming patch notes for detailed list per platform): Fix for explosion packs not being shootable sometimes Fix for reducing damage mismatch between client/server Fix for third person player orientation mismatch Character collision improvements Improvements for client side packet loss Various server performance improvements High Frequency Bubble Server to client “tickrate” improvements for damage, position, rotation, projectiles and stance (infantry/vehicle) High Frequency Bubble: Added client option to set frequency of server to client update rate (OFF/LOW/MED/HIGH, default: OFF) High Frequency Bubble: Added server kill switches to disable feature for rest of round based on low server performance Dampened explosive camera shake **Reduced FrameHistoryTime by 33% (less time for a client to inflict damage to enemy during packet loss)** Various server side network improvements and fixes ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/224 "2014-06-27T20:18:00Z")
we are doomed this is to much punishment for One to endure… If I didnt care about the fiking game I would nt be here, But I have been addicted to Battlefield since the first time I played it… when it works its awesome but that is getting more rare every day In the weekend it is to stay away from it… ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/225 "2014-06-27T20:20:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _alcatraz669 said:_ > There was no frame history reduction…it was no where in the patch notes..had they implemented it.it would of been in the notes _DICE has reduced the update factor for the entire connection from player to player 1.5 seconds to 1 second. This change should have been contributed by the players in the CTE very positively to the game experience._ [http://www.battlefield-inside.de/2014/05/battlefield-4-qa-mit-david-sirland-auf-den-esl-one-finals/](http://www.battlefield-inside.de/2014/05/battlefield-4-qa-mit-david-sirland-auf-den-esl-one-finals/) [[battlefield-inside.de](http://battlefield-inside.de)] The also say ping limit not possible so I am a bit concerned about this CTE post saying other wise. ---
**Author:** ![Fouad1983](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/90db22/32.png) [@Fouad1983](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Fouad1983)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/226 "2014-06-27T20:20:00Z")
To High Pingkick: They can’t lock it PC or consoles, not because they CAN’T but because they don’t want to (each players have the right to wherever he wants). Yes PC players have the HighPng kick feature BUT it’s a THIRD PARTY APPS not DICE. To iSpyRecon: They can reduce the lag comp but even if they do it, dying behind cover, Kill trade will still remain, Internet laws not Devs. There will less BS and WTF situations BUT they will still be there and that’s why we need ping feature, to allow admins to kick high ping players and only those who have, like, between 0-100 ms to play. UP to 100ms = KICK/BAN. That way evryone can enjoy the game a bit. Sorry for the bad english and caps, hope you understand why the fact that just having the ping feature, without even askin something else, can make a huge difference. Thank you ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/227 "2014-06-27T20:23:00Z")
Well if a lag comp balance tweak wont work and they cant ping limit, I’ll just toss the game. Have a great Friday everyone 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/a4c791/32.png) [@GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GeTgoodNOOB)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/228 "2014-06-27T20:24:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _HighPingKick said:_ > I heard back from the producer for the CTE & Premium today on the CTE forums.This is what he said > > "Built in RSP option for region or something like that might be a possible solution for PS4/Xbone" > > now this is no guarantee but atleast its something there looking in too. ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/229 "2014-06-27T20:26:00Z")
Yeah we got that already. I also showed you were THEY say it is not possible so - time will tell I guess. _Pinganzeige on consoles: It was asked why there is no Pinganzeige on the consoles. Sirland explains that he can not say exactly why this element is missing, but he is of the opinion that it is not possible on the basis of Sony’s and Microsoft’s restrictive rules. When asked why titanium case has a Pinganzeige, he explains that this is a One Xbox and PC only title with titanium case. In the case of Battlefield 4 and the fact of the multi-platform goal is to create equality on all consoles._ They also said this but now I am being told it never made it in? _DICE has reduced the update factor for the entire connection from player to player 1.5 seconds to 1 second. This change should have been contributed by the players in the CTE very positively to the game experience._ ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/230 "2014-06-27T20:35:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _iSpyRecon said:_ > Yeah we got that already. I also showed you were THEY say it is not possible so - time will tell I guess. > > _Pinganzeige on consoles: > It was asked why there is no Pinganzeige on the consoles. Sirland explains that he can not say exactly why this element is missing, but he is of the opinion that it is not possible on the basis of Sony’s and Microsoft’s restrictive rules. When asked why titanium case has a Pinganzeige, he explains that this is a One Xbox and PC only title with titanium case. In the case of Battlefield 4 and the fact of the multi-platform goal is to create equality on all consoles._ > > They also said this but now I am being told it never made it in? > > _DICE has reduced the update factor for the entire connection from player to player 1.5 seconds to 1 second. This change should have been contributed by the players in the CTE very positively to the game experience._ Yes that one!!! But go along with me… 1 - I pay EA\Dice 60 bucks for a server 2 - That server has no tools for admins, NONE If U want to kick you have to manually do so By definition of Private = (Confidential), adjective abstruse, arcane, clandestine, closet, concealed, covert, cryptic, dark, esoteric, esoterical, hidden, intimate, inviolable, mysterious, off-the-record, personal, privy, recondite, undercover, undisclosable, undivulgable, unrevealable Private = (Not public), adjective closed, confined, individual, individualized, limited, nonofficial, not open, personalized, privatus, reserved, select, unofficial If private means all these things DicEa would not be breaking any policies because It was private users that would be enforcing them… ---
**Author:** ![Fouad1983](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/90db22/32.png) [@Fouad1983](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Fouad1983)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/231 "2014-06-27T21:04:00Z")
“Pinganzeige on consoles: It was asked why there is no Pinganzeige on the consoles. Sirland explains that he can not say exactly why this element is missing, but he is of the opinion that it is not possible on the basis of Sony’s and Microsoft’s restrictive rules.” What !? If i really understant, and hope not, Ping feature isn’t possible because M$/Sony ? Are you kiddin me ? Then explain why there is those BS Cellphone icons? " When asked why titanium case has a Pinganzeige, he explains that this is a One Xbox and PC only title with titanium case" → WTF ? Where is the logic? I really hope i misunderstand it something. I’m really lost. ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/232 "2014-06-27T21:09:00Z")
Yes I understand about rented servers but I will believe when I see it. Something must be done. I for one have had enough and again, see no reason to purchase additional content or games unless I am guaranteed some level of fairness and balance. I should not have to get one hit killed by someone from Japan on my local server, etc. That is one step away from cheating IMO and it appears to be behavior that is welcomed. ---
**Author:** ![Abusive\_Red75](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/da6949/32.png) [@Abusive\_Red75](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Abusive_Red75)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/233 "2014-06-27T21:10:00Z")
Warframe on PS4 has a ping limit for matchmaking you can set yourself. If it was a Sony policy to not allow such a thing than why would you be able to do it on Warframe and not BF4? I suspect EA wants to pile everyone in centralized data centers to save money, and hope they can get clever enough with lag comp that the majority of players don’t notice. There used to be US South servers in BF3 that most of the South Americans would play on, why not ask them why they did away with them? ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/234 "2014-06-27T21:11:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Fouad1983 said:_ > "Pinganzeige on consoles: > It was asked why there is no Pinganzeige on the consoles. Sirland explains that he can not say exactly why this element is missing, but he is of the opinion that it is not possible on the basis of Sony’s and Microsoft’s restrictive rules." > > What !? If i really understant, and hope not, Ping feature isn’t possible because M$/Sony ? > Are you kiddin me ? > Then explain why there is those BS Cellphone icons? > > " When asked why titanium case has a Pinganzeige, he explains that this is a One Xbox and PC only title with titanium case" -\> WTF ? > Where is the logic? > > I really hope i misunderstand it something. > I’m really lost. Nope U got it all right the way I see it is that these were policies made before man invented the wheel… DicEa a a developer has to manage to get around this otherwise the game will continue to play like garbage (most of the times) ---
**Author:** ![Fouad1983](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/90db22/32.png) [@Fouad1983](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Fouad1983)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/235 "2014-06-27T21:15:00Z")
How can M$ say yes to titanium and no to BF4 ? This is nonsense. WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Abusive\_Red75](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/da6949/32.png) [@Abusive\_Red75](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Abusive_Red75)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/236 "2014-06-27T21:17:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _iSpyRecon said:_ > Well if a lag comp balance tweak wont work and they cant ping limit, I’ll just toss the game. Have a great Friday everyone 🙂 Amen to that, I already have one foot out the door and it’s a damn shame because I love the game, I just want it to work properly. If this is their policy moving forward as well, I won’t ever buy another DICE/EA game either. ---
**Author:** ![Sumwuttouched](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@Sumwuttouched](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sumwuttouched)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/237 "2014-06-27T21:19:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Fouad1983 said:_ > "Pinganzeige on consoles: > It was asked why there is no Pinganzeige on the consoles. Sirland explains that he can not say exactly why this element is missing, but he is of the opinion that it is not possible on the basis of Sony’s and Microsoft’s restrictive rules." > > What !? If i really understant, and hope not, Ping feature isn’t possible because M$/Sony ? > Are you kiddin me ? > Then explain why there is those BS Cellphone icons? > > " When asked why titanium case has a Pinganzeige, he explains that this is a One Xbox and PC only title with titanium case" -\> WTF ? > Where is the logic? > > I really hope i misunderstand it something. > I’m really lost. Yeah me too^ Xbone and PC are M$; so no logic at all. There is, (in the t&c for developers) from sony and M$ stating tickrate limits that would generally be equal to 10Hz. But from what I understand arrangements had been made to update these T&C’s to include the changes with the last patch. ---
**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/238 "2014-06-27T21:48:00Z")
This game runs the exact same.high frequency off low med high..NSF at 0 or 100…it makes NO difference ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/239 "2014-06-27T21:49:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Abusive\_Red75 said:_ > Warframe on PS4 has a ping limit for matchmaking you can set yourself. If it was a Sony policy to not allow such a thing than why would you be able to do it on Warframe and not BF4? > > I suspect EA wants to pile everyone in centralized data centers to save money, and hope they can get clever enough with lag comp that the majority of players don’t notice. > > There used to be US South servers in BF3 that most of the South Americans would play on, why not ask them why they did away with them? None of us has proof of anything said here all is in suposicion, but DicEa still remaining silent… I know for a fact it has been asked developers in CTE about this: > [@](#): > > DTHbyDARKethreal said: > > > [@](#): > > > > UpUrMammasArse said: > > Could you elaborate… > > Will we be seeing ping limit and or ping display along Dragons Tooth ( or was ever mentioned in CTE ) > > You won’t be seeing that this update. > I asked a dev about that issue and he said he thinks there’s a reason that they can’t show you, but he’s not quite sure. He said he’d ask but I think he has forgotten about it. > > What kind of reason? > Well I asked a dev about adding key bind options to consoles one time and he basically said they couldn’t becaues of “console politics”. > Whether that means it’s in the rules that you can’t make games with key bind menus, or that it’s just a really goofy idea to do it so nobody does it, I don’t know. I think he meant policies, either way… I still think there is something fishy in this whole story about not being able to apply ping limits and ping display, and on top of this : Silence from DIcEa ---
**Author:** ![stanbury24](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@stanbury24](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/stanbury24)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 10:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/240 "2014-06-27T22:02:00Z")
Even if pin lock is a no go ,there is absolutely no reason why they can’t implement a visual ping readout for each player so at least admins can remove these players from their servers ..right ?? [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032.md?page=11) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032.md?page=13)