# PS4/XB Might be getting region lock or ping cap... **URL:** \ **Category:** Console\ **Created:** [June 21, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032 "2014-06-21T20:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/a4c791/32.png) [@GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GeTgoodNOOB)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 8:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/361 "2014-06-29T20:21:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _alcatraz669 said:_ > They use the server browser. ..they choose to play on US servers ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/362 "2014-06-29T21:01:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Abusive\_Red75 said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _UpUrMammasArse said:_ > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > _iSpyRecon said:_ > > > They will need to do something about South America firstly. If ping limits do come (I still have every doubt), my ping NY to Brazil (for example) is 225 ms. A ping cap would need to be lower then that to make a difference and then you still have the current lag compensation scheme favoring dial up. And yes, it’s not a troll threat to say I am done if no changes come. I simply cannot justify additional purchases on DLCs and games to be an easy target for an OOR. > > > > I keep thinking about the ping cap… > > I think It would only be fair to implement this on Private servers but also releasing more servers for us to rent…And Admis cap it at their will…in the end it would be a win\win situation > > > > If they do it to all servers even better but then I think It would be the problem where Microsoft and Sony Policies kick in > > If they allow ping caps and it’s the best thing since sliced bread, out of region and high ping players could potentially be excluded from the best possible BF4 experience, since EA doesn’t provide local servers for every region. If Sony/MS do in fact have a policy, I’m sure it’s intent is to prevent things like this from happening, in order to ensure everyone who buys games for their consoles gets roughly the same experience and has access to the game no matter where they live or what level of internet they can afford. Understandable. > > With that said, I generally believe private servers should flourish because they are legitimately the best places to play, as they should be since we pay for them. As a result they should be also be the glue that holds a strong community together. As they currently stand there is really no compelling reason to either rent them, or frequent them on consoles in my opinion. If players know they have a great running local(in region) server with a ping cap(level playing field) and fair admins, they will go there often, become "regulars", get to know the admins and other regulars, friends lists grow, the community grows..etc. It’s very important for the BF franchise that they sort his out for multiple reasons. When you lose a gunfight you should be looking at the name, not the flag on the dogtag or emblem… This Guy BullsEye Edit¬ I think If they were to take this seriously Why not asknsole CosCommunity for ideas instead of releasing another kind of “control layout” because we all know how that turned out… And @Ispy U are also correct Sir ---
**Author:** ![Abusive\_Red75](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/da6949/32.png) [@Abusive\_Red75](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Abusive_Red75)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/363 "2014-06-29T21:23:00Z")
@Spy- It wasn’t really an argument, I was just throwing out some thoughts as to why this may be difficult for them to accomplish or even discuss as a possibility. You don’t ever have to pay extra to play on a rented server unless you want to. I think this is reasonable. People rent servers as fast as they become available already, so it would really just be added value, not an extra cost to everyone. I think we stand a much better chance of getting something done for the % players who actually care about this by focusing our energy on getting it for rentals first because to me that would seem to be the low-hanging fruit, then see where it goes from there. I think if they do this you will have no problem finding a nice server to play on without spending another dime.. ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/364 "2014-06-29T21:40:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Abusive\_Red75 said:_ > @Spy- > > It wasn’t really an argument, I was just throwing out some thoughts as to why this may be difficult for them to accomplish or even discuss as a possibility. > > You don’t ever have to pay extra to play on a rented server unless you want to. I think this is reasonable. People rent servers as fast as they become available already, so it would really just be added value, not an extra cost to everyone. > > I think we stand a much better chance of getting something done for the % players who actually care about this by focusing our energy on getting it for rentals first because to me that would seem to be the low-hanging fruit, then see where it goes from there. I think if they do this you will have no problem finding a nice server to play on without spending another dime.. Right. Good points and I know you were not arguing. I still suspect something in the lag compensation is severely out of whack and it needs a hard look. All games use it but I do not recall ever being at such an obvious disadvantage like in BF4. Don’t get me wrong, I am not against ping limits by any means and I welcome them but I just feel a lag compensation scheme that brought balance (as it should) would be less trouble for DICE/EA than ping limits with Sony/Microsoft possibly stepping in the way. Yes, we speculate they will not as the serves would be rented. ---
**Author:** ![Abusive\_Red75](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/da6949/32.png) [@Abusive\_Red75](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Abusive_Red75)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/365 "2014-06-29T21:55:00Z")
@ Spy -I think they have tried their best to do exactly that with lag comp, but with a more complex game, less server locations and therefore greater ping differentials between players it’s just not working anymore. Nothing they have done in multiple patches, high performance server upgrades, tick rate increases, etc has been able to overcome the problems caused by pushing a one size fits all solution. It’s just s shame how far they were willing to let the game slide before entertaining the possibility of doing what everyone knows is the right thing. ---
**Author:** ![jeepmont](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@jeepmont](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jeepmont)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/366 "2014-06-29T22:00:00Z")
I have played a lot of matches on pc where 64 player pings were below 100 then a few oor players joined the server with a 120 ping+ later on and the hit detection goes to hell. ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/367 "2014-06-29T22:00:00Z")
In complete agreement that nothing to date has even come close to solving the #1 issue with this game. I guess I am just hung up on this Dev’s statement, “… netcode is going to make this less of an issue.” and how if the lag compensation was balanced, ping limits would not be necessary. With that said, bring 'em and do it today! 🙂 IMO, anything over 100 ms should be weeded out of our local. ---
**Author:** ![FUBAR\_2691](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@FUBAR\_2691](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FUBAR_2691)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/368 "2014-06-29T22:21:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _DroptimusRhime said:_ > yeah, it seems like a "possible solution" to alienate a portion of their customer base because of where they live or what they can afford. It’s understandable not to alienate a customer. I wonder of instead of having a ping cap is there a way for the program to take the player’s ping rate as a factor to equalize the game so that everyone on the server is on the same playing field. ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/369 "2014-06-29T22:26:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _FUBAR\_2691 said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _DroptimusRhime said:_ > > yeah, it seems like a "possible solution" to alienate a portion of their customer base because of where they live or what they can afford. > > It’s understandable not to alienate a customer. I wonder of instead of having a ping cap is there a way for the program to take the player’s ping rate as a factor to equalize the game so that everyone on the server is on the same playing field. Yes, it’s called lag compensation and it’s not working. This goes to my point that seeing it fixed would bring more open play vs. ping limits but I am in favor of anything that brings balance to the game. It’s current state is near comical. ---
**Author:** ![Crossword1289](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Crossword1289](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Crossword1289)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/370 "2014-06-29T22:26:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Rattari said:_ > "might be a possible solution" is not "getting region lock" > > Who is going to be locked from US servers and what kind of latency are we talking when it comes to pings? I don’t use US servers ever- would be happy for region locks. Get sick of playing against UK/European/USA players here in the AUssie servers. ---
**Author:** ![stanbury24](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@stanbury24](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/stanbury24)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 10:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/371 "2014-06-29T22:28:00Z")
Although each region is massive in itself most people with half decent internet should be able to ping under 100 ms within their region surely .. ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 10:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/372 "2014-06-29T22:30:00Z")
US to US is roughly 25-100 ms. Anything higher is OOR in my book. Lets use Japan for example as they are known to flock to the east coast US (never mind they have their own servers) … my ping from NY to Japan is about 225 ms. Get off of my server!! To Japan ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/1/8/184acfa9af8d3b70da71230d028f1362fe8abf00.png) [[speedtest.net](http://speedtest.net)] My speeds drop as well. Here is my ping/speeds about 1000 miles away but still in the US ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/d/7/d774d96e14a17ab52d4f1bc017847b2fe73c9175.png) [[speedtest.net](http://speedtest.net)] BIG difference. Now try a ping to South America and do it with 1mpbs down and 500k up as your starting speed. Ouch!! ---
**Author:** ![stanbury24](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@stanbury24](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/stanbury24)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/373 "2014-06-29T22:34:00Z")
How can this even be possible and why would they even allow it in the first place 225ms is rediculous I’ve had players from Colombia flying the attack chopper who I’ve struck 3 times with the mbt’s main cannon and done no damage whatsoever ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/374 "2014-06-29T22:37:00Z")
What’s even more ridiculous is that when they do play on my local, I am the who who is knocked 1/2 second behind the action and not the guy with 225 ms ping. Brilliant yes? ---
**Author:** ![stanbury24](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@stanbury24](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/stanbury24)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/375 "2014-06-29T22:54:00Z")
I know the feeling ,it’s rage inducing when you know you’ve been shit on by the fawed core mechanics of this game , I’ve played once on west coast us servers from EU when I joined a friend in game who’d QM’d and I have to say gameplay was well not smooth but I had guys shooting at me from behind and I’d manage to somehow turn round and drop them with health to spare so I’ve experienced both ends of the spectrum . My ping is between 190-225ms to CA. ---
**Author:** ![d3viant\_m1nd](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@d3viant\_m1nd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/d3viant_m1nd)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/376 "2014-06-29T23:19:00Z")
The best solution is a ping limit option for rented servers. We have been asking for this for many years. There is no excuse. ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/377 "2014-06-29T23:35:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _d3viant\_m1nd said:_ > The best solution is a ping limit option for rented servers. > > We have been asking for this for many years. > > There is no excuse. Ping Cap the private servers + ping display in scoreboard… hell they will make money with this…it is a win win solution… Worst case scenario ping is not the problem (did U see what I did just back there?) and the game will drop dead right there ---
**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 2:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/378 "2014-06-30T02:13:00Z")
Bump ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 2:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/379 "2014-06-30T02:25:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _alcatraz669 said:_ > Bump ---
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> [@](#): > > _alcatraz669 said:_ > Bump Some reading for you [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YIJD1aVYGjiOChcYo3-a1CLz36-DWSspe4RiU8On0A4/](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YIJD1aVYGjiOChcYo3-a1CLz36-DWSspe4RiU8On0A4/) [[docs.google.com](http://docs.google.com)] [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032.md?page=18) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032.md?page=20)