# PS4/XB Might be getting region lock or ping cap... **URL:** \ **Category:** Console\ **Created:** [June 21, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032 "2014-06-21T20:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![KingTolapsium](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kingtolapsium/32/102530_2.png) [@KingTolapsium](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KingTolapsium)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/21 "2014-06-21T22:34:00Z")
Those do sound nice, but they won’t make a difference if I’m getting lag killed by an army of brazilians… Just give us a high ping lock, or a region lock, then you can deal with all the nitty gritty things DICE. ---
**Author:** ![GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/a4c791/32.png) [@GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GeTgoodNOOB)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 10:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/22 "2014-06-21T22:41:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _CTE\_PLAYER said:_ > new CTE patch today (Keeping my console peeps in the loop) > > PATCH CHANGES > There might not be many changes in this patch – but they are highly sought after ones: > > EXPERIMENTAL: VISUAL RECOIL SOLUTION > We have a technical solution for visual recoil that basically makes the red dot stable with gun moving as it always has (We all have Talen\_Prime to thank for this potential solution).There are several known kinks and visual bugs with this however (scale of some guns’s red dot being a big one) – but we thought: why not let the CTE players help us find these, instead of waiting? > So if you feel inclined – we’d like to know what sights work well, which don’t and why. It should be pretty simple fixes all in all – and gameplay wise it should work well on most guns already. > > Things to look for: off-center sights, parts of sights not moving as expected, clipping of the “red dot” it self, scale of the centerpiece, etc. Try different video settings (low, med, high, ultra) to cover all bases. > > SUPRESSION RECOIL MODIFIED WHEN ZOOMED > I’ve now made the first of many changes coming to suppression. (See suppression post here).I’ve removed all recoil penalties from suppression for aiming down sights, and reduced hip fire penalties by 75% These changes will be an iterative process so it would be great to get everyone’s feedback.Why this first? Aside from being the quickest thing to change, I feel that recoil modifiers are too dependent on a weapon’s base stats and that the suppression you feel should be the same regardless of your loadout.My intention with this change is to get suppression feeling more even across the game. > I understand that flinching is the biggest problem here and adds a lot of imbalance to scoped weapons, so hopefully we can address that soon.Please continue to post feedback and suggestions. I will be making more posts to the suppression thread soon. Yes these ping locks need to happen really soon but this latest patch (oh man can you tell the difference) VISUAL RECOIL almost all gone.. ---
**Author:** ![KingTolapsium](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kingtolapsium/32/102530_2.png) [@KingTolapsium](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KingTolapsium)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 10:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/23 "2014-06-21T22:44:00Z")
That would help it feel like BF3, I was playing Noshar yesterday and realized how much further you can fall with out taking damage and how fast the character model responded to rapid movement, if they could get BF4 to move and shoot like BF3 the only problems I can think of is the High pingers and OOR players. ---
**Author:** ![GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/a4c791/32.png) [@GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GeTgoodNOOB)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/24 "2014-06-21T22:45:00Z")
Here some more info from CTE bout suppression. How does a player become suppressed: There is a 1.5 meter sphere around the soldier’s head. As a projectile passes through this sphere, it applies its suppression value to the soldier. This is scaled from 100% at the center (headshot) all the way down to 0% at the very edge. Suppression counts up from 0.00 to 1.00 and does not have any effect on the soldier until it reaches 0.2. A headshot (or near it) within 12 meters with the AK12 would cause 0.03 suppression per round. This means at close range, it would take 7 shots at the head to begin feeling even a small percentage of suppression. Because this scales off to the edge, if you are missing by a meter it would take almost the entire magazine to begin suppression and if you aren’t, the target is likely dead before being suppressed. An example of the debug I use to look at suppression values: [[oi60.tinypic.com](http://oi60.tinypic.com)] Examples of a single shot fired into the sphere at close range using an AK12: [[oi58.tinypic.com](http://oi58.tinypic.com)] [[oi61.tinypic.com](http://oi61.tinypic.com)] A projectile’s suppression value also increases over range. This reduces the amount of felt suppression in close range encounters, and enhances your ability to keep a sniper’s head down if he is out of your effective range. An example of a single shot fired into the sphere at long range using an AK12: [[oi57.tinypic.com](http://oi57.tinypic.com)] What happens once you are suppressed: (Values activate at 0.2 suppression and scale linearly up to 1.00) -Vignette This is the darkness around the edge of the screen that was missing from low PC settings and previous gen consoles. The screen effect maxes out at 0.67 suppression and no visible change is seen between 0.68 and 1.00 suppression. -Motion Blur This effect is combined with the vignette and follows the same rules. It can not be seen on low PC settings or previous gen consoles. -Increased Recoil Up to a maximum of 50% vertical and 100% horizontal at 1.00 suppression. Attachment modifiers have no effect on this. -Sway Similar to what is seen on sniper rifles. You can not hold breath to counteract this but you can fight it by adjusting your aim. -Flinch When your crosshair jumps to the side suddenly. This happens as your suppression level changes suddenly. -Prevents Health Regen When you have any suppression value other than zero, you are considered in combat and will not begin to regen health until your suppression level depletes. What I would like to try first: -Remove recoil modifier from zoom -Reduce recoil modifier when not zoomed -Reduce sway when using a bipod -Remove flinching -Change sphere to a cylinder I hope this sheds some light on suppression for anyone that found it unclear and I look forward to all the wonderful feedback and questions you have for me. ---
**Author:** ![KingTolapsium](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kingtolapsium/32/102530_2.png) [@KingTolapsium](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KingTolapsium)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 10:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/25 "2014-06-21T22:48:00Z")
The increased recoil just seems like a way to make it even harder to react to the situation appropriately, seeing this and flinching leave would be a welcome adjustment. ---
**Author:** ![ToP-ShoTTA-45](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@ToP-ShoTTA-45](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ToP-ShoTTA-45)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/26 "2014-06-21T22:59:00Z")
@Op really great post and nice to see someone in CTE sharing all the upcoming tests/patches in CTE. I hope you can continue to do this in the future. Suppression is one thing I really hate when shooting my magnum at enemy players. I could be point blank aiming at them and for some reason nothing registers, really drives me crazy when I know I had a clear shot (for it to miss must be some crazy suppression effect LOL) . Thanks again for all the info 🙂 Xfactor vid showcasing the changes mentioned by OP [![Video: Battlefield 4 Suppression 2.0 - The changes so far!](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/d/d/dd70baff51c87033fd81ec33b02bb5705a547bd1.jpeg "Battlefield 4 Suppression 2.0 - The changes so far!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBeK7t5kMcA&list=UUXN76fKLJUFeMK12fAN5Gug) [[youtube.com](http://youtube.com)] ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/1/c/1cc6585ee1c568d3bbda54f2042248b29a7448bc.gif) [[media2.giphy.com](http://media2.giphy.com)] ---
**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/27 "2014-06-22T01:02:00Z")
I’d say 200 ms also..seeing how battlelog says I have a 2nd ping to the server yet in game it’s above 100…OK ---
**Author:** ![KingTolapsium](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kingtolapsium/32/102530_2.png) [@KingTolapsium](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KingTolapsium)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 1:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/28 "2014-06-22T01:13:00Z")
I think it should be 150, seeing as my latency is always under 20 ms and sometimes dips to 9 ms, even on EU servers i get 13-18 ms. I can play as a low pinger in almost all of the servers, lets stop slouching to dialup and play with 2014 internet. ---
**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/29 "2014-06-22T01:14:00Z")
I meant 23. ..game says I have 100…little confused ---
**Author:** ![KingTolapsium](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kingtolapsium/32/102530_2.png) [@KingTolapsium](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KingTolapsium)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 1:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/30 "2014-06-22T01:25:00Z")
Did a little reading, 200ms is what the ingame test would show as 0.2. Upon realizing the ingame numbers are bullshit, i think the 200 ms ping would be and acceptable limit. I live by KC and I can get a ping around 130ms to the European and Asian servers, the people in the area should be able to hit that if I can from around the world. ---
**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 1:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/31 "2014-06-22T01:48:00Z")
I hit 150 or so to Asia ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/32 "2014-06-22T02:21:00Z")
for all the interested ones here is a link for a thread asking for ping display in consoles… [Display Ping Value on Consoles](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/display-ping-value-on-consoles/165926) ping display plus ping limit would be awesome if done right…let just hope that they can achieve this without swamping their hands with their feet… ---
**Author:** ![GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/a4c791/32.png) [@GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GeTgoodNOOB)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 2:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/33 "2014-06-22T02:26:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _UpUrMammasArse said:_ > for all the interested ones here is a link for a thread asking for ping display in consoles… > > [Display Ping Value on Consoles](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/display-ping-value-on-consoles/165926) > > ping display plus ping limit would be awesome if done right…let just hope that they can achieve this without swamping their hands with their feet… yes chris does good work, everybody should sub to his youtube !! [https://www.youtube.com/user/xFPxAUTh0r1ty/videos](https://www.youtube.com/user/xFPxAUTh0r1ty/videos) [[youtube.com](http://youtube.com)] ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/34 "2014-06-22T02:34:00Z")
I dont wanna take any credit from you , I just want to this come to consoles , since we are one step behind pc version without ping limit or ping display…which makes the game miserable and unbearable most of the times, I am glad there are still players \fans that do want a better game and keep informing others (like my self who spend a lot of time looking for updates regarding the CTE and other “official” information), while in the other hand there are the trolling patrol that continue to ruin the threads and posts… thank You for the good news great post ---
**Author:** ![pumpedEmboar9](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@pumpedEmboar9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/pumpedEmboar9)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 2:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/35 "2014-06-22T02:39:00Z")
I hope all this is true. ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 3:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/36 "2014-06-22T03:15:00Z")
I hope that is true and when implemented that is well done instead of a hurry patch… Lets all hope for the best… “getting Hyped for this” ---
**Author:** ![GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/a4c791/32.png) [@GeTgoodNOOB](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GeTgoodNOOB)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 4:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/37 "2014-06-22T04:55:00Z")
if anyone’s interested, here’s the before and after comparison of the US holo on ACE23 [http://bestplay.tv/video/53a6149083a9a/battlefield-4/bf4-cte-visual-recoil-fix-test](http://bestplay.tv/video/53a6149083a9a/battlefield-4/bf4-cte-visual-recoil-fix-test) [[bestplay.tv](http://bestplay.tv)] ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 5:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/38 "2014-06-22T05:07:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _CTE\_PLAYER said:_ > if anyone’s interested, here’s the before and after comparison of the US holo on ACE23 > [http://bestplay.tv/video/53a6149083a9a/battlefield-4/bf4-cte-visual-recoil-fix-test](http://bestplay.tv/video/53a6149083a9a/battlefield-4/bf4-cte-visual-recoil-fix-test) [[bestplay.tv](http://bestplay.tv)] does this mean even the frame from the sights move the red dot remains on the target? Now instead of wobbling left, right up and down will only give the effect of moving forward and backward? cant you make a side by side video instead of over positioning? ---
**Author:** ![KingTolapsium](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kingtolapsium/32/102530_2.png) [@KingTolapsium](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KingTolapsium)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 9:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/39 "2014-06-22T09:25:00Z")
Wow, thanks for the link, I did not realize it was that drastic in BF4 ---
**Author:** ![Toby1602](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@Toby1602](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Toby1602)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 9:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032/40 "2014-06-22T09:37:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _KingTolapsium said:_ > I think it should be 150, seeing as my latency is always under 20 ms and sometimes dips to 9 ms, even on EU servers i get 13-18 ms. I can play as a low pinger in almost all of the servers, lets stop slouching to dialup and play with 2014 internet. i hope you’re not talking about the ping limit being this, it would be pointless introducing one, 75ms would pretty much eliminate cross continent play which seems to be the thing most people complain about, yet it would still allow everyone in region to play [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032.md?page=1) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ps4-xb-might-be-getting-region-lock-or-ping-cap/172032.md?page=3)