# Remove the Team Switch Button

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 11, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329 "2018-02-11T03:16:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/21 "2018-02-12T13:12:00Z")

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> [@PottyScottie](#):
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> For the folks who say, “well I would just leave the game and find another match…” This may be true on PC, but on xbox and PS4 the load in and out times is dreadful. Even if this is a small deterrent for some, it is still better than what is currently going on.

Not if you use an SSD. They’re quite cheap too now as well.

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**Author:** ![bapman63](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bapman63/32/101289_2.png) [@bapman63](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bapman63)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/22 "2018-02-12T14:00:00Z")

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> [@PottyScottie](#):
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> For the folks who say, “well I would just leave the game and find another match…” This may be true on PC, but on xbox and PS4 the load in and out times is dreadful. Even if this is a small deterrent for some, it is still better than what is currently going on.

I’m on the Xbox and last Sunday that’s all I did was quit. 10 matches in a row, in cq, I was put on the losing team and the teams weren’t at all interested in winning so I just kept quitting until I was finally put on a team that at least tried to win.  
Not the best solution but it’s the only one open to us now.

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**Author:** ![Zozeberry](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zozeberry/32/104204_2.png) [@Zozeberry](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zozeberry)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/23 "2018-02-12T19:17:00Z")

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I’m guilty. I’m probably the biggest turncoat on this game. Total traitor lol. If I join a game of conquest and we’re being obliterated, no flags capped, and losing horrendously (which is 99% of games I join) .. sometimes I’ll switch teams.

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**Author:** ![mrtwotimes](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrtwotimes/32/102892_2.png) [@mrtwotimes](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mrtwotimes)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/24 "2018-02-12T20:13:00Z")

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> [@PottyScottie](#):
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> Especially on pc, the team stack is so real. You can watch guys at the beginning of each match just swap to the team that just spawn killed the other team for 20 minutes in the previous round. Its been like this for 15 years. It’s time to disable the Team Switch button.

I don’t bother with switching but not sure why you or others feel it is bad.

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**Author:** ![IIRogueMachineII](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/91b2a8/32.png) [@IIRogueMachineII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IIRogueMachineII)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/25 "2018-02-12T20:34:00Z")

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Well you’re not going to avoid it because removing it would mean dice would actually have to implement a way to guarantee you were put on the same team as a friend which i hear is an issue but i’m a larry loaner, servers would die because chances are people would quit rather stay in the same game against the same team that just spawn trapped and base them for 20 mins. Losing is one thing but if thats happened of course people will switch. Don’t know about anyone else but sort of don’t find that fun.

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**Author:** ![TheGM86](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thegm86/32/103781_2.png) [@TheGM86](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheGM86)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/26 "2018-02-12T21:08:00Z")

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> [@PottyScottie](#):
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> Especially on pc, the team stack is so real. You can watch guys at the beginning of each match just swap to the team that just spawn killed the other team for 20 minutes in the previous round. Its been like this for 15 years. It’s time to disable the Team Switch button.

Yeah like I am going to stick around and keep playing with you sandbags.

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**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/27 "2018-02-12T21:46:00Z")

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> [@disposalist](#):
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> It should go.

 ![flat,800x800,075,f.u2.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/7/4/7469a3869069428f6ce97d98d13454921b9f4c98.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![KermitJ](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kermitj/32/102488_2.png) [@KermitJ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KermitJ)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/28 "2018-02-12T23:56:00Z")

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Only time I switch is to join friends. But if not then I stick with the losing team. Heck if my friends are on the losing team I join them. Seriously there’s no better feeling then being the intelligent person on my squad using coms, chat, and my mic to help push up. If you use team chat you will be surprised how many people will actually work together if you work out a strategy.

No better feeling seeing a complete 360 turn around. Even if we end up losing just seeing that turn around just makes me think now this…this is battlefield.

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**Author:** ![foozand](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/foozand/32/101983_2.png) [@foozand](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/foozand)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/29 "2018-02-13T00:26:00Z")

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+1 agree - disable teamswitching.

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**Author:** ![disposalist](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@disposalist](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/disposalist)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/30 "2018-02-13T14:39:00Z")

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> [@BaronVonGoon](#):
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> > [@disposalist](#):
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> > It should go.
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> Nope

Because?

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**Author:** ![bleachee](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ce73a5/32.png) [@bleachee](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bleachee)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/31 "2018-02-13T15:00:00Z")

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Somehow all the other team-based games in existence get by without a team switch button, why can’t Battlefield?

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**Author:** ![EmothicVH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/emothicvh/32/101858_2.png) [@EmothicVH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EmothicVH)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 9:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/32 "2018-02-14T09:24:00Z")

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> [@bleachee](#):
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> Somehow all the other team-based games in existence get by without a team switch button, why can’t Battlefield?

Because many of them are just 4 v 4 to 16 v 16. Not 32 vs 32 where it is much difficult to have balanced gameplay in a 32 v 32 then a 16 v 16. Hell most fast pace shooters barely go over 12 v 12. Battlefield is one of very few to have 32 v 32 or more.

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**Author:** ![CrackerSmurf](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@CrackerSmurf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CrackerSmurf)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 9:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/33 "2018-02-14T09:44:00Z")

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I think the entire point is over most peoples heads here. The reason team switcher is is because as soon as the teams balance and there is space if there are 1 or 2 130s on a team and 5 or 6 on the other the 1 or 2 will leave and join the 5 or 6 because they can’t stand losing or they might lose a little piece of their K/d ratio. It’s a quite simple concept really. The team stacking is done by the team switch button 8 of 10 times. So you remove it and a server won’t be 10-20 100+ VS. a random grouping of play levels that surely aren’t going to be in the 10-20 100+ range.

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**Author:** ![PottyScottie](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pottyscottie/32/103156_2.png) [@PottyScottie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PottyScottie)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/34 "2018-02-15T18:32:00Z")

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> [@CrackerSmurf](#):
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> I think the entire point is over most peoples heads here. The reason team switcher is is because as soon as the teams balance and there is space if there are 1 or 2 130s on a team and 5 or 6 on the other the 1 or 2 will leave and join the 5 or 6 because they can’t stand losing or they might lose a little piece of their K/d ratio. It’s a quite simple concept really. The team stacking is done by the team switch button 8 of 10 times. So you remove it and a server won’t be 10-20 100+ VS. a random grouping of play levels that surely aren’t going to be in the 10-20 100+ range.

This guy gets it.

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**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/35 "2018-02-15T18:39:00Z")

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Its amusing how scrubs think level 130s are good players.

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**Author:** ![PottyScottie](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pottyscottie/32/103156_2.png) [@PottyScottie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PottyScottie)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/36 "2018-02-15T18:53:00Z")

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> [@BaronVonGoon](#):
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> Its amusing how scrubs think level 130s are good players.

He was just giving an example however, the best players in this game tend to play everyday thus becoming 130. Of couse some no life scrubs are also 130. You know what he meant.

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**Author:** ![Ram1c](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/97f17d/32.png) [@Ram1c](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ram1c)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/37 "2018-02-15T18:57:00Z")

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This is almost as game breaking as kill trades within 30 meters.

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**Author:** ![Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sixclicks/32/103500_2.png) [@Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sixclicks)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/38 "2018-02-15T23:23:00Z")

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It has nothing to do with level. People switch to the team with the players that did the best last round or to teams that have a skilled platoon playing together. Or they change to the side of the map that generally wins on maps that have balancing issues. Being level 130 means nothing other than that you play the game a lot.

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**Author:** ![externilwig33](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@externilwig33](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/externilwig33)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 12:54am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/39 "2018-02-16T00:54:00Z")

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This is getting horrible, balance was so bad today the other team was actually intentionally keeping us close to prolong the match and farm us

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**Author:** ![NANACHl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@NANACHl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NANACHl)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/remove-the-team-switch-button/103329/40 "2018-02-16T02:24:00Z")

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> [@Sixclicks](#):
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> It has nothing to do with level. People switch to the team with the players that did the best last round or to teams that have a skilled platoon playing together. Or they change to the side of the map that generally wins on maps that have balancing issues. Being level 130 means nothing other than that you play the game a lot.

Well lets see  
Would you join group with 31 level 130 players or group with 31 level 1 players if your target was to win the game (Conquest)?  
You have no other data avaible

I personally would pick the first one because clearly those have over 300hours played,know the map,know the guns,know the class etc.  
Even if you find some MLG pro in 1level team,his positioning will be off,team play non existent,not to mention level 1 players do not even know how where and why capture points(I’ve started few weeks ago so it is fresh for me,i m 90lvl now)

Ofcourse the bridge is tighter as you move the levels up but it is normal to have 2000levels of difference in game

But worst part is that not even ammount of players is balanced so in this game not only you have 32 level 130 on one team and level 1 on other  
but the level 1 is alone in the game

so 32 vs 1

and bruh,let me tell you no one will switch to his team willingly

 ![fp2tG6l.png](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/b/f/bfee428d94ab5f93a45dc122240442aa86f17afc.png)  
NO ONE,and if someone joins the game he will instantly rage quit

> [@EmothicVH](#):
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> > [@bleachee](#):
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> > Somehow all the other team-based games in existence get by without a team switch button, why can’t Battlefield?
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> Because many of them are just 4 v 4 to 16 v 16. Not 32 vs 32 where it is much difficult to have balanced gameplay in a 32 v 32 then a 16 v 16. Hell most fast pace shooters barely go over 12 v 12. Battlefield is one of very few to have 32 v 32 or more.

I do not think you read his comment,or do you claim team switch button helps to balance this game? Because it does exact opposite.

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