# Removing the assault rifles from the Assault class. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 28, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564 "2016-05-28T18:59:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KBK\_Nightmare](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ce73a5/32.png) [@KBK\_Nightmare](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KBK_Nightmare)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/1 "2016-05-28T18:59:00Z")
Dice pls, why are you doing such a change? its not needed at all. Right now you are making the players who can play the Assault class (revives heals etc) to change up their class to be able to use the Assault rifle. But now they can no longer heal and revive. BF4 will be the last game you see tons of revives and heals since none will use the class anymore. #giveAssaultriflesbacktodaAssaultclassandtheheal/revive. ---
**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/2 "2016-05-28T19:01:00Z")
nah. medics had smgs in 1942 and lmgs in BC2. both classes were fine there. ---
**Author:** ![jeffmasman](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jeffmasman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jeffmasman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/3 "2016-05-28T19:01:00Z")
But they didn’t have assault rifles in WW1… ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/4 "2016-05-28T19:02:00Z")
I never got revived in BF4, either… so not much will change according to you, lol ---
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/5 "2016-05-28T19:05:00Z")
Stop this BS.Noone gets assault to “help” in bf4.Out of 10 medics like 1 tries to revive me The class was broken in infantry-centric maps,because it has the best anti-infantry capabilities,AND the pushing power and score points of reviving ---
**Author:** ![KBK\_Nightmare](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ce73a5/32.png) [@KBK\_Nightmare](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KBK_Nightmare)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/6 "2016-05-28T19:06:00Z")
> [@ThePoolshark](#): > > I never got revived in BF4, either… so not much will change according to you, lol Cause i werent in the game 😉 > [@Sir-xer21](#): > > nah. medics had smgs in 1942 and lmgs in BC2. both classes were fine there. they were ok. Right now the Assault class is an gift from god, wanna keep it that way. ---
**Author:** ![KBK\_Nightmare](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ce73a5/32.png) [@KBK\_Nightmare](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KBK_Nightmare)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/7 "2016-05-28T19:06:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > Stop this BS.Noone gets assault to “help” in bf4.Out of 10 medics like 1 tries to revive me > > The class was broken in infantry-centric maps,because it has the best anti-infantry capabilities,AND the pushing power and score points of reviving But we have no chance vs a dirt bike. ---
**Author:** ![Nobel83-9](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/nobel83-9/32/102968_2.png) [@Nobel83-9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Nobel83-9)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/8 "2016-05-28T19:09:00Z")
Venom x auto fire mode. Turns semi autos like the m16a4 into fully automatic weapons. You’re welcome. ---
**Author:** ![KBK\_Nightmare](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ce73a5/32.png) [@KBK\_Nightmare](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KBK_Nightmare)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/9 "2016-05-28T19:16:00Z")
> [@Nobel83-9](#): > > Venom x auto fire mode. Turns semi autos like the m16a4 into fully automatic weapons. You’re welcome. i want my aek! ---
**Author:** ![UnderbossNiko](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/cab0a1/32.png) [@UnderbossNiko](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UnderbossNiko)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/10 "2016-05-28T19:22:00Z")
I’ll tell you what I and many other’s told the dingus weeks ago when the forum came out. He asked for DICE to give Assault rifles back. Which, in a modern or futuristic game would be fine. But here, in history. And for authenticity’s sake, Assault rifles were not used. Not even considered or designed yet by most if not nearly all nations. DICE isn’t trying to take it away because they want to see you cry. It isn’t here because it shouldn’t be here. And if that is a problem, then just play a different class with a bit more RoF. Assault will still have SMG’s and Support LMG’s. ---
**Author:** ![AQuamAN221](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@AQuamAN221](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AQuamAN221)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/11 "2016-05-28T19:23:00Z")
> [@KBK\_Nightmare](#): > > Dice pls, why are you doing such a change? its not needed at all. > Right now you are making the players who can play the Assault class (revives heals etc) to change up their class to be able to use the Assault rifle. But now they can no longer heal and revive. > > BF4 will be the last game you see tons of revives and heals since none will use the class anymore. > > #giveAssaultriflesbacktodaAssaultclassandtheheal/revive. Assault rifles were not really invented yet. There are a few examples that are arguably the “first assault rifles” that came from this time period (which I’m hoping are included in the game and given to the assault class) but many consider the stg 44 (WWII era) as the first practical assault rifle. As far as people not playing medic as much as bf4 because they don’t have ARs (which like I said weren’t really around yet) I’m not sure if I agree with you. Most people I play with in random servers running assault do not play medic. The only time they throw a med bag down is when they need health and don’t really revive teammates (at least as much as they should). This is coming from someone who actively plays th medic role where my top priority is revives. So as far as people not playing medic as much I think the people who actively play the medic role and not just assault with a personal med bag, will still go to the medic class. I know I plan to play the medic class more often than not. Plus we know little to nothing about the weapon selection and balancing of classes. I would give it some time and more info to come out before worrying too much lol. ---
**Author:** ![AQuamAN221](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@AQuamAN221](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AQuamAN221)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/12 "2016-05-28T19:26:00Z")
Whoops just realized 9 comments were written before I could write my one overly verbose response lol. I apologize if I have any redundancies to previous comments! ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Paul\_Blart](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e9a140/32.png) [@Not\_Paul\_Blart](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Not_Paul_Blart)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/13 "2016-05-28T20:56:00Z")
> [@KBK\_Nightmare](#): > > Dice pls, why are you doing such a change? its not needed at all. > Right now you are making the players who can play the Assault class (revives heals etc) to change up their class to be able to use the Assault rifle. But now they can no longer heal and revive. > > BF4 will be the last game you see tons of revives and heals since none will use the class anymore. > > #giveAssaultriflesbacktodaAssaultclassandtheheal/revive. Assault class player here, I didn’t even buy BF4 until 4 months after it was released and yet I still have 33,360 revives(almost every single one of them at least 80 percent revives), and 241,822 heals. I play assault class to help out my teammates as much as I can and to get tons of points, not to play with assault rifles. I could care less about losing ARs when it comes to the healing/reviving class. ---
**Author:** ![H-Hour\_Absolute](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/85f322/32.png) [@H-Hour\_Absolute](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/H-Hour_Absolute)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/14 "2016-05-28T21:23:00Z")
I always thought giving the medic class the LMG was the best choice, based purely on magazine size. The ability to revive without having to worry about reloading (because you have 75-200 rounds per mag), really helped you play medic. As it is, if you’re playing “assault medic” right now, you’ve got at best maybe 3-4 seconds of sustained firepower. That’s pretty pointless, considering you now have to decide between reloading and reviving. But…I do get the gameplay trade off (the LMG Medics in BC2 were obviously OP); I think the end result is that people just avoid medic altogether now, because of that very trade off (time to reload+time to charge paddle+time to maneuver to revive+actual revive). It might not seem like a lot of added “defenseless downtime” but it really is in comparison to BC2. IMO it really killed the fun of running medic…it’s still there, but nowhere near as effective as it once was ---
**Author:** ![xX-ALeIaQ-Xx](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xx-aleiaq-xx/32/104142_2.png) [@xX-ALeIaQ-Xx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xX-ALeIaQ-Xx)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/15 "2016-05-28T22:44:00Z")
> [@KBK\_Nightmare](#): > > > [@Nobel83-9](#): > > > > Venom x auto fire mode. Turns semi autos like the m16a4 into fully automatic weapons. You’re welcome. > > i want my aek! me too, but … take a look here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta\_OVP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_OVP) like aek this ancient rifle has those specifications: Rate of fire 900 rounds per minute Muzzle velocity 990 ft/s (301.82 m/s) Feed system 25 round detachable box magazine im only thinking about the year of production Designed 1916 Manufacturer Beretta Produced 1918–1941[citation needed] ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/16 "2016-05-28T22:49:00Z")
> [@xX-ALeIaQ-Xx](#): > > > [@KBK\_Nightmare](#): > > > > > [@Nobel83-9](#): > > > > > > Venom x auto fire mode. Turns semi autos like the m16a4 into fully automatic weapons. You’re welcome. > > > > i want my aek! > > me too, but … take a look here > > [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta\_OVP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_OVP) > > like aek this ancient rifle has those specifications: > > Rate of fire 900 rounds per minute > Muzzle velocity 990 ft/s (301.82 m/s) > Feed system 25 round detachable box magazine > > im only thinking about the year of production > Designed 1916 > Manufacturer Beretta > Produced 1918–1941[citation needed] Gun was not in WW1 ---
**Author:** ![PancakePieAC130](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pancakepieac130/32/103073_2.png) [@PancakePieAC130](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PancakePieAC130)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/17 "2016-05-28T23:01:00Z")
It will encourage the use of different classes, and assult rifles weren’t a thing in ww1 if I’m not mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![stinky\_herbs](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/stinky_herbs/32/103621_2.png) [@stinky\_herbs](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/stinky_herbs)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/18 "2016-05-28T23:02:00Z")
i like that they r switching things up. ---
**Author:** ![B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/b3antown_b3a5t/32/101262_2.png) [@B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/B3ANTOWN_B3A5T)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/19 "2016-05-28T23:10:00Z")
ARs were laser beams in BF4. I’m glad they’re gone. ---
**Author:** ![KBK\_Nightmare](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ce73a5/32.png) [@KBK\_Nightmare](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KBK_Nightmare)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564/20 "2016-05-28T23:38:00Z")
> [@H-Hour\_Absolute](#): > > I always thought giving the medic class the LMG was the best choice, based purely on magazine size. > > The ability to revive without having to worry about reloading (because you have 75-200 rounds per mag), really helped you play medic. > > As it is, if you’re playing “assault medic” right now, you’ve got at best maybe 3-4 seconds of sustained firepower. That’s pretty pointless, considering you now have to decide between reloading and reviving. But…I do get the gameplay trade off (the LMG Medics in BC2 were obviously OP); I think the end result is that people just avoid medic altogether now, because of that very trade off (time to reload+time to charge paddle+time to maneuver to revive+actual revive). It might not seem like a lot of added “defenseless downtime” but it really is in comparison to BC2. > > IMO it really killed the fun of running medic…it’s still there, but nowhere near as effective as it once was What?! giving the medic the assault rifle is the best choice, you get close-mid range and it has great rof and dmg. > [@ThePoolshark](#): > > > [@xX-ALeIaQ-Xx](#): > > > > > [@KBK\_Nightmare](#): > > > > > > > [@Nobel83-9](#): > > > > > > > > Venom x auto fire mode. Turns semi autos like the m16a4 into fully automatic weapons. You’re welcome. > > > > > > i want my aek! > > > > me too, but … take a look here > > > > [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta\_OVP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_OVP) > > > > like aek this ancient rifle has those specifications: > > > > Rate of fire 900 rounds per minute > > Muzzle velocity 990 ft/s (301.82 m/s) > > Feed system 25 round detachable box magazine > > > > im only thinking about the year of production > > Designed 1916 > > Manufacturer Beretta > > Produced 1918–1941[citation needed] > > Gun was not in WW1 prove it O.o bet there was one guy who used it. > [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > ARs were laser beams in BF4. I’m glad they’re gone. they were guns crafted by god, a godly gun given to people with godly power. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/removing-the-assault-rifles-from-the-assault-class/101564.md?page=2)