# Rework vanilla planes and tanks to match Pacific vehicles

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/rework-vanilla-planes-and-tanks-to-match-pacific-vehicles/107400>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 9, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/rework-vanilla-planes-and-tanks-to-match-pacific-vehicles/107400 "2019-11-09T00:49:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![WesleyF09](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/wesleyf09/32/105323_2.png) [@WesleyF09](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WesleyF09)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/rework-vanilla-planes-and-tanks-to-match-pacific-vehicles/107400/1 "2019-11-09T00:49:00Z")

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It would be awesome if DICE gives the old planes and tanks a larger specialization tree, it would help us to have more unique playstyles…

I am not an expert on tanks, but I can tell that Pacific fighters are waaaay superior to the vanilla ones, specially with the addition of the Fliegerfaust, due to the fact that the old planes doesn’t have effective weaponry to play safer and avoid Fliegerfaust squadrons.

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**Author:** ![TheBaitOne](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thebaitone/32/103764_2.png) [@TheBaitOne](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheBaitOne)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 8:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/rework-vanilla-planes-and-tanks-to-match-pacific-vehicles/107400/2 "2019-11-09T08:34:00Z")

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The more extensive specialization trees for Pacific vehicles are a product of the fact that each team only has 2 tanks and 2 planes, they need the larger trees to allow for diverse play styles. On the other hand you have the British and Germans who get 6 tanks and 6 aircraft.

that being said, I think more US and Japanese vehicles will probably be added in future, especially aircraft.

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**Author:** ![GrizzGolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/grizzgolf/32/102129_2.png) [@GrizzGolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GrizzGolf)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/rework-vanilla-planes-and-tanks-to-match-pacific-vehicles/107400/3 "2019-11-09T10:02:00Z")

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Everything about the last update is what this game should have been

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**Author:** ![Terminator000001](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Terminator000001](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Terminator000001)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/rework-vanilla-planes-and-tanks-to-match-pacific-vehicles/107400/4 "2019-11-09T13:50:00Z")

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> [@TheBaitOne](#):
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> The more extensive specialization trees for Pacific vehicles are a product of the fact that each team only has 2 tanks and 2 planes, they need the larger trees to allow for diverse play styles. On the other hand you have the British and Germans who get 6 tanks and 6 aircraft.
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> that being said, I think more US and Japanese vehicles will probably be added in future, especially aircraft.

For the vanilla aircraft it’s more like 3 german and 3 british planes. We just have 2 types for the same aircraft each. They just allow different playroles. I think that’s one of the reason Dice made the skilltrees of the pacific vehicles bigger and added less vehicles in total.  
At least for now.

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**Author:** ![WesleyF09](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/wesleyf09/32/105323_2.png) [@WesleyF09](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WesleyF09)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/rework-vanilla-planes-and-tanks-to-match-pacific-vehicles/107400/5 "2019-11-10T16:16:00Z")

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Yeah, these two fighters on each Pacific faction remembers me the jet fighter and attack fighter from BF4, I think it’s better, the addition of the bombers made balancing much more difficult for DICE, and in my opinion, more boring for pilots who wnat to dogfight and attack the ground, like the good old A-10 times

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**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/rework-vanilla-planes-and-tanks-to-match-pacific-vehicles/107400/6 "2019-11-10T16:33:00Z")

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> [@TheBaitOne](#):
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> The more extensive specialization trees for Pacific vehicles are a product of the fact that each team only has 2 tanks and 2 planes, they need the larger trees to allow for diverse play styles. On the other hand you have the British and Germans who get 6 tanks and 6 aircraft.
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> that being said, I think more US and Japanese vehicles will probably be added in future, especially aircraft.

I am assuming that more vehicles will be added for these factions, particularly if they were to include America vs Germany maps in the future. At the moment the extended tree allows for good diversity with limited choice of chassis but if more get added it would be an odd disparity between the original and newer factions.

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**Author:** ![Raspu71nG](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@Raspu71nG](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Raspu71nG)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/rework-vanilla-planes-and-tanks-to-match-pacific-vehicles/107400/7 "2019-11-11T20:11:00Z")

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vanilla planes would destroy the pacific planes.  
the pacific planes suck. they feel sluggish and their main weapon overheats quickly.

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**Author:** ![mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mf_shro0m/32/106941_2.png) [@mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mf_shro0m)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/rework-vanilla-planes-and-tanks-to-match-pacific-vehicles/107400/8 "2019-11-11T20:21:00Z")

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> [@TheBaitOne](#):
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> The more extensive specialization trees for Pacific vehicles are a product of the fact that each team only has 2 tanks and 2 planes, they need the larger trees to allow for diverse play styles. On the other hand you have the British and Germans who get 6 tanks and 6 aircraft.
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> that being said, I think more US and Japanese vehicles will probably be added in future, especially aircraft.

Each plane getting 6 upgrades instead of 4 means the planes will be better assuming the base planes were about equal

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**Author:** ![SQHDP](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@SQHDP](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SQHDP)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/rework-vanilla-planes-and-tanks-to-match-pacific-vehicles/107400/9 "2019-11-11T20:48:00Z")

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I can’t get a damn kill with planes because there’s always someone camping at the plane spawn. Apart from my level 1 plane being useless against someone who has everything unlocked
