# Seriously... **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 7, 2017, 7:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106 "2017-04-07T07:28:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Motafied](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/motafied/32/102855_2.png) [@Motafied](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Motafied)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 7:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/1 "2017-04-07T07:28:00Z")
I am seriously done with people complaining how this game feels so different, than older Battlefields… How the depth of Battlefield is gone etc. None forces you to play Battlefield 1. But that aside, do you guys even see that you change your way of thinking about things over the years? How you enjoy videogames over the years? Do you REALLY think that you would enjoy gaming as you did 10 years ago? (Battlefield 1942, Battlefield 2..) NO. Your way of making or having a opinion changes.. Ofcourse the games are not the same… But your experience is NOT the same either. So if you like older Battlefields, go play them… But stop the endless and mostly USELESS bashing. Giving an opinion is always good… But make sure you can back-up your opinion with valid points. You guys also forgot how the release of BF3 and BF4 were… One big drama! Try to compare BF1 once all DLC’s are released. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![mR-Donkey1RAR](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mr-donkey1rar/32/105132_2.png) [@mR-Donkey1RAR](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mR-Donkey1RAR)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 7:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/2 "2017-04-07T07:41:00Z")
> [@Motafied](#): > > I am seriously done with people complaining how this game feels so different, than older Battlefields… How the depth of Battlefield is gone etc. None forces you to play Battlefield 1. > > But that aside, do you guys even see that you change your way of thinking about things over the years? How you enjoy videogames over the years? Do you REALLY think that you would enjoy gaming as you did 10 years ago? (Battlefield 1942, Battlefield 2..) NO. Your way of making or having a opinion changes.. Ofcourse the games are not the same… But your experience is NOT the same either. So if you like older Battlefields, go play them… But stop the endless and mostly USELESS bashing. Giving an opinion is always good… But make sure you can back-up your opinion with valid points. > > You guys also forgot how the release of BF3 and BF4 were… One big drama! Try to compare BF1 once all DLC’s are released. > > Thank you. Salt! Troll ALert!! ---
**Author:** ![Motafied](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/motafied/32/102855_2.png) [@Motafied](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Motafied)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 8:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/3 "2017-04-07T08:31:00Z")
> [@mR-Donkey1RAR](#): > > Salt! Troll ALert!! How old are you? ---
**Author:** ![GRIZZ11283](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/grizz11283/32/102128_2.png) [@GRIZZ11283](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GRIZZ11283)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 9:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/4 "2017-04-07T09:00:00Z")
I think the games far better than BF4, people talk about it being “casual” blah blah. BF4 was so much easier to play imo. The mini map was a wash with red dots every time someone shot, lock ons, 1 gun for all situations, how does that make a game “less casual” lol. I think alot people need to stay away from YouTube, it’s not their own opinion, it’s something some random on YouTube has said, as being like a YouTuber is cool nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/proassassin2003/32/103170_2.png) [@ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ProAssassin2003)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 9:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/5 "2017-04-07T09:07:00Z")
I love Battlefield 1 and could care less what other people think. Battlefield 1 has no Equal, Rival or Competition in the FPS Market for Visuals, Dynamic 64 Player Epic Battles. I can’t get that anywhere else so I will be playing this till the next iteration. ---
**Author:** ![Osirin](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/osirin/32/117463_2.png) [@Osirin](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Osirin)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 9:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/6 "2017-04-07T09:10:00Z")
I try follow [KISS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle) princible onwards : People opinions can change, so does games. What i don’t understand why release new battlefield game with so many bad design choices that in previous battlefield were working good. For example the weekly changing medal system should have scrap/battleback rewards added for doing them and you should be able do the whichever medal whenever you want instead having to activate them (meaning also other medals beside weekly changing ones). My head hurts thinking all the game design mistakes there is without anything done to make them more user friendly (There is even [megathread](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-top-5-issues-or-improvements/102679) of BF1 improvements), yet i play this game like a dreamer trusting there will be better tomorrow. Don’t get me wrong saying BF1 is bad, the graphics and most of basic gameplay is ok which balances somewhat the scales. New games should be upgrade, not downgrade. ---
**Author:** ![01JPIZZLE10](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/0/ea5d25/32.png) [@01JPIZZLE10](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/01JPIZZLE10)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 9:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/7 "2017-04-07T09:31:00Z")
Well most people are not happy hence so many threads about it. This is the lowest active players for bf game so soon after launch. Considering it sold so many copies shows how great dice are doing. ---
**Author:** ![Osirin](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/osirin/32/117463_2.png) [@Osirin](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Osirin)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 9:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/8 "2017-04-07T09:33:00Z")
> [@01JPIZZLE10](#): > > Well most people are not happy hence so many threads about it. This is the lowest active players for bf game so soon after launch. Considering it sold so many copies shows how great dice are doing. I think it is called “Buyers remorse”. ---
**Author:** ![V2Face](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/v2face/32/103961_2.png) [@V2Face](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/V2Face)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 11:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/9 "2017-04-07T11:17:00Z")
The battlefield community is afraid of change if it’s not a modern military sim. ---
**Author:** ![Private\_UMPalot](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/private_umpalot/32/103169_2.png) [@Private\_UMPalot](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Private_UMPalot)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 11:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/10 "2017-04-07T11:29:00Z")
Battlefield has cursed me, i cannot play other shooters. I try, but i always come back to my mistress. ---
**Author:** ![lh20122012](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lh20122012/32/102637_2.png) [@lh20122012](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lh20122012)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 11:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/11 "2017-04-07T11:34:00Z")
Most of the players complaining about BF1 simply can’t handle the rigid class system. The fact that they can’t instantly 1v1 a tank bc they ONLY ever play medic or scout infuriates them. And rather than adapt, they complain. ---
**Author:** ![Frankenstein68](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frankenstein68/32/101998_2.png) [@Frankenstein68](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Frankenstein68)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/12 "2017-04-07T12:21:00Z")
> [@01JPIZZLE10](#): > > Well most people are not happy hence so many threads about it. This is the lowest active players for bf game so soon after launch. Considering it sold so many copies shows how great dice are doing. I’d say the vast majority people just enjoy the game. They’re not on here complaining because they’re out there playing it and having fun. Personally, I think it’s the best one I’ve played; mainly because it’s a period of history I’m fascinated by. The theme is what’s hooked me. It’s the vocal minority who are complaining about how much they hate the game. If you don’t like it (\*you as in people who complain they hate the game and aren’t gonna play it, not you personally…), then don’t play it. The rest of us are just gonna continue to enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![Private\_UMPalot](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/private_umpalot/32/103169_2.png) [@Private\_UMPalot](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Private_UMPalot)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/13 "2017-04-07T12:26:00Z")
The people who moan and put over 500 hours in a game. ---
**Author:** ![crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crabman169/32/101567_2.png) [@crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crabman169)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/14 "2017-04-07T13:01:00Z")
> [@01JPIZZLE10](#): > > Well most people are not happy hence so many threads about it. This is the lowest active players for bf game so soon after launch. Considering it sold so many copies shows how great dice are doing. Hardly. Compare the forum count to the player count. Of course you are gonna see more negative threads; a lot of people can’t be bother going out of their way make a postive thread (especially since they buried pretty quick). Literally look at any other gaming forum. ---
**Author:** ![xXWTFXxTHATGUY](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xxwtfxxthatguy/32/104157_2.png) [@xXWTFXxTHATGUY](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xXWTFXxTHATGUY)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/15 "2017-04-07T13:12:00Z")
> [@ProAssassin2003](#): > > I love Battlefield 1 and could care less what other people think. Battlefield 1 has no Equal, Rival or Competition in the FPS Market for Visuals, Dynamic 64 Player Epic Battles. I can’t get that anywhere else so I will be playing this till the next iteration. Look i get what you are saying, but if you don’t Care what people think about bf1 then why create a thread asking them to quit complaining? If you enjoy the game that’s all that matters. ---
**Author:** ![Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sixclicks/32/103500_2.png) [@Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sixclicks)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/16 "2017-04-07T14:02:00Z")
It makes sense that people would complain about the game changing so much compared to the older Battlefields. Many Battlefield veterans grew to like this series so much because of how it was, so of course they’d be disappointed in the direction Battlefield has gone with this game. It’s clear the game is falling into the trend that most other games are following now which is focusing on accessibility. That of course brings in more customers for DICE which is good for money, but at the same time it tends to degrade the depth of gameplay. And in terms of player population, it’s also clear that the decisions DICE has made in the development of this game have turned away many players. The peak player population since launch on PC is down 65%, Xbox is down 62%, and PS4 is down 56%. I personally think that BF1 is overall a good game, and the launch was definitely a lot better than the recent previous titles. That said, I do wish DICE would bring BF back closer to its roots. They definitely need to do something to slow the bleeding of players from the game. I was hoping the DLC would cause a spike in player population that would last maybe a couple of months until the next DLC eventually comes out, but that didn’t happen. There was a small spike when the DLC was released, but within a month the peak population stats were already under the population stats just before the release of the DLC. ---
**Author:** ![Hazzatomic](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/0ea827/32.png) [@Hazzatomic](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hazzatomic)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/17 "2017-04-07T14:31:00Z")
> [@V2Face](#): > > The battlefield community is afraid of change if it’s not a modern military sim. True but it was a happy medium. On one end of the scale you had ultra realistic shooters like ARMA and insurgency and things like that and on the other you had jump around to skrillex call of duty. Battlefield was nice middle ground. People are upset that it is slowly pulling towards the more casual call of duty side of the scale. I think people are worried about it becoming a slippery slope. ---
**Author:** ![mR-Donkey1RAR](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mr-donkey1rar/32/105132_2.png) [@mR-Donkey1RAR](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mR-Donkey1RAR)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/18 "2017-04-09T13:42:00Z")
> [@Sixclicks](#): > > It makes sense that people would complain about the game changing so much compared to the older Battlefields. Many Battlefield veterans grew to like this series so much because of how it was, so of course they’d be disappointed in the direction Battlefield has gone with this game. It’s clear the game is falling into the trend that most other games are following now which is focusing on accessibility. That of course brings in more customers for DICE which is good for money, but at the same time it tends to degrade the depth of gameplay. > > And in terms of player population, it’s also clear that the decisions DICE has made in the development of this game have turned away many players. The peak player population since launch on PC is down 65%, Xbox is down 62%, and PS4 is down 56%. > > I personally think that BF1 is overall a good game, and the launch was definitely a lot better than the recent previous titles. That said, I do wish DICE would bring BF back closer to its roots. > > They definitely need to do something to slow the bleeding of players from the game. I was hoping the DLC would cause a spike in player population that would last maybe a couple of months until the next DLC eventually comes out, but that didn’t happen. There was a small spike when the DLC was released, but within a month the peak population stats were already under the population stats just before the release of the DLC. Where did you find these stats mate, do you have any specific links? ---
**Author:** ![mistaviks2](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@mistaviks2](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mistaviks2)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/19 "2017-04-09T13:54:00Z")
I totally agree. If these people had there way we would all be playing 8 bit sprites on our megadrives. Gaming and games evolve. Better graphics, better physics and mechanics. Anyway who gives a damn what these people think. They are in the minority and we are the ones bringing the money in for EA. Without us there would be no battlefield. ---
**Author:** ![Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sixclicks/32/103500_2.png) [@Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sixclicks)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106/20 "2017-04-10T13:22:00Z")
> [@mR-Donkey1RAR](#): > > > [@Sixclicks](#): > > > > It makes sense that people would complain about the game changing so much compared to the older Battlefields. Many Battlefield veterans grew to like this series so much because of how it was, so of course they’d be disappointed in the direction Battlefield has gone with this game. It’s clear the game is falling into the trend that most other games are following now which is focusing on accessibility. That of course brings in more customers for DICE which is good for money, but at the same time it tends to degrade the depth of gameplay. > > > > And in terms of player population, it’s also clear that the decisions DICE has made in the development of this game have turned away many players. The peak player population since launch on PC is down 65%, Xbox is down 62%, and PS4 is down 56%. > > > > I personally think that BF1 is overall a good game, and the launch was definitely a lot better than the recent previous titles. That said, I do wish DICE would bring BF back closer to its roots. > > > > They definitely need to do something to slow the bleeding of players from the game. I was hoping the DLC would cause a spike in player population that would last maybe a couple of months until the next DLC eventually comes out, but that didn’t happen. There was a small spike when the DLC was released, but within a month the peak population stats were already under the population stats just before the release of the DLC. > > Where did you find these stats mate, do you have any specific links? @mR-Donkey1RAR [https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf1/insights/population?days=-1](https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf1/insights/population?days=-1) That chart shows the peak population for each month. So I took the peak from the first month and found the decrease in total peak players compared to the peak of the current month. The formula is PercentDecrease = 100\*{1-(CurrentPeak/PastPeak)} For example, on PC this would be calculated as: PercentDecrease = 100\*{1-(41969/120996)} = 65.3% decrease in peak player population since the first month. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/seriously/259106.md?page=2)