# Shotgun adjustments **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 4, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265 "2020-04-04T14:25:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ct1924/32/106572_2.png) [@CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CT1924)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/21 "2020-04-05T02:53:00Z")
> [@Major\_Pungspark](#): > > So seriously, you want both to eat the cookie and keep it? > > Why not have a select fire slug for the 2a to while you are at it, it is not fair that it only owns up to like 20-25 meters and in that range make all other smgs redundant. Or maybe a slect fire bolt action sniper with a 2a type smg attached to it to make sure both log range and short range? They aren’t stuck in a 7 meter window. And have less competition(snipers). ---
**Author:** ![bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bran1986/32/101405_2.png) [@bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bran1986)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 4:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/22 "2020-04-05T04:46:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd](#): > > I feel like they are in a place where they need to be. I don’t see why we need to change them. And no a soumi will not kill as fast as a shotgun idk where you are pulling that from. I do… ---
**Author:** ![talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/talhaONE)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 7:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/23 "2020-04-05T07:39:00Z")
> [@CT1924](#): > > > [@talhaONE](#): > > > > > [@CT1924](#): > > > > > > (Quote) > > > These changes would be more detrimental to the drilling, as it’s rifle round is superior to the slugs used by other guns. It works like a bolt action rifle, but can only have a 2x zoom applied.(Quote) > > > > The problem of shotguns is not their lack of ability to use both buckshots or slugs. Problem is their ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ poor range and giving them both buckshots and slugs wont going to fix them. > > It will increase ranged capabilities, but with proper drawbacks. As i said shotguns needs straight buffs. Shotguns will still be mediocre after these. ---
**Author:** ![Player\_rs688is9](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Player\_rs688is9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Player_rs688is9)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 10:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/24 "2020-04-05T10:05:00Z")
Shotgun like They are now needs to go away or be massively nerfed. Im so sick and tired of seeing clips by people actually thinking its something impressive killing with a shotgun. ---
**Author:** ![talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/talhaONE)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 10:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/25 "2020-04-05T10:13:00Z")
> [@Player\_rs688is9](#): > > Shotgun like They are now needs to go away or be massively nerfed. Im so sick and tired of seeing clips by people actually thinking its something impressive killing with a shotgun. Shotguns are awful what the hell are you talking about? Even the drilling barely can one shot anyone in 10 meters. ---
**Author:** ![GrizzGolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/grizzgolf/32/102129_2.png) [@GrizzGolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GrizzGolf)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 10:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/26 "2020-04-05T10:27:00Z")
Shotguns feel pretty good right now ---
**Author:** ![talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/talhaONE)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/27 "2020-04-05T12:17:00Z")
> [@GrizzGolf](#): > > Shotguns feel pretty good right now I dont know if you realized but shotguns didnt buffed back at update 6.2. ---
**Author:** ![CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ct1924/32/106572_2.png) [@CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CT1924)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/28 "2020-04-05T14:47:00Z")
> [@Player\_rs688is9](#): > > Shotgun like They are now needs to go away or be massively nerfed. Im so sick and tired of seeing clips by people actually thinking its something impressive killing with a shotgun. Jave you used one on Arras or Hamada? And pushed? ---
**Author:** ![InS\_Hypno](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ins_hypno/32/106778_2.png) [@InS\_Hypno](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/InS_Hypno)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/29 "2020-04-05T16:21:00Z")
> [@talhaONE](#): > > > [@CT1924](#): > > > > > [@talhaONE](#): > > > > > > > [@CT1924](#): > > > > > > > > (Quote) > > > > These changes would be more detrimental to the drilling, as it’s rifle round is superior to the slugs used by other guns. It works like a bolt action rifle, but can only have a 2x zoom applied.(Quote) > > > > > > The problem of shotguns is not their lack of ability to use both buckshots or slugs. Problem is their ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ poor range and giving them both buckshots and slugs wont going to fix them. > > > > It will increase ranged capabilities, but with proper drawbacks. > > As i said shotguns needs straight buffs. Shotguns will still be mediocre after these. No, not at all How can anyone come to that conclusion is beyond me ---
**Author:** ![InS\_Hypno](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ins_hypno/32/106778_2.png) [@InS\_Hypno](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/InS_Hypno)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/30 "2020-04-05T16:35:00Z")
> [@CT1924](#): > > > [@InS\_Hypno](#): > > > > (Quote) > > yeah like it matters on your 120 ms input lag 64 inch TV > > If anything shotguns needs a nerf so that we can tone down weapons like the Suomi and 2A that have to be this crazy to be able to compete with them at close range > > My ping is usually 10. But please continue. As for the 2A-I would argue it is fine. Suomi can kill more stuff, and faster according to sym. And it is more accurate. You didn’t understand what I’m talking about and it kinda plays into my point THERE’S PROBABLY A BILLION THINGS MAKING YOUR EXPERIENCE WORSE BEFORE THE GUN BALANCE The 2A and Suomi both need to be nerfed They shouldn’t be a thing, the only thing that can consistently compete with these is a shotgun or the same weapon ---
**Author:** ![talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/talhaONE)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/31 "2020-04-05T17:09:00Z")
> [@InS\_Hypno](#): > > (Quote) > No, not at all > How can anyone come to that conclusion is beyond me Another claim without backing up. ---
**Author:** ![InS\_Hypno](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ins_hypno/32/106778_2.png) [@InS\_Hypno](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/InS_Hypno)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/32 "2020-04-05T17:17:00Z")
> [@talhaONE](#): > > > [@InS\_Hypno](#): > > > > (Quote) > > No, not at all > > How can anyone come to that conclusion is beyond me > > Another claim without backing up. I play with shotguns once in a while They definitely don’t need a buff Learn to aim ---
**Author:** ![talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/talhaONE)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/33 "2020-04-05T17:28:00Z")
> [@InS\_Hypno](#): > > (Quote) > I play with shotguns once in a while > They definitely don’t need a buff > Learn to aim Nobody asked for how often you play with shotguns. I asked you to back up your claim. If you cant read just leave the forum. ---
**Author:** ![InS\_Hypno](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ins_hypno/32/106778_2.png) [@InS\_Hypno](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/InS_Hypno)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/34 "2020-04-05T17:32:00Z")
> [@talhaONE](#): > > > [@InS\_Hypno](#): > > > > [»] > > (Quote) > > I play with shotguns once in a while > > They definitely don’t need a buff > > Learn to aim > > Nobody asked for how often you play with shotguns. > > I asked you to back up your claim. If you cant read just leave the forum. Ah the console mmg camper is being condescending again? They OS, that’s all you should need to understand that they are the best gun in CQC AKA not mediocre ---
**Author:** ![talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/talhaONE)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/35 "2020-04-05T17:48:00Z")
> [@InS\_Hypno](#): > > (Quote) > Ah the console mmg camper is being condescending again? > They OS, that’s all you should need to understand that they are the best gun in CQC > AKA not mediocre Calls me condescending in a condescending sentence. I dont know how anyone can lower himself that much. Back to topic. They are one shot only at point blank range and they are not consistent. SMGs have a lot more range and a lot more consistent. ---
**Author:** ![InS\_Hypno](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ins_hypno/32/106778_2.png) [@InS\_Hypno](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/InS_Hypno)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/36 "2020-04-05T17:58:00Z")
> [@](#): > If you aim on target it isn’t inconsistent You shouldn’t lose a 1v1 against an SMG Especially on console where you can abuse the aim assist If you are engaging out of range you shouldn’t take the fight Just like an SMG wouldn’t engage a Gewerh-43 at 30 meters up Whoever is approving the other comments just erase them ---
**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd_tv/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd_TV)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/37 "2020-04-05T18:51:00Z")
Watched the video. The guy answered his own question. You have to pick your engagements like EVERY OTHER weapon in the game along with routes and flanks.Why would you pick something up or go to an area out of its effective range is beyond me and shows a lack of game sense. Again i see no reason to buff a shotgun if its already strong in its niche that would just invade other weapons sector. Smg’s are a niche. Lmgs are a Niche. MMG’s are an extreme niche. The only weapons that need a pass-through are SLRs. I primarily use them and still feel they are a bit too strong for the little recoil they have. ---
**Author:** ![CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ct1924/32/106572_2.png) [@CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CT1924)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/38 "2020-04-05T18:56:00Z")
> [@InS\_Hypno](#): > > (Quote) > I play with shotguns once in a while > They definitely don’t need a buff > Learn to aim Aiming has nothing to do with this. And it would take a few seconds to switch fire modes, just to be clear. The issue is needing to be within 5m with no infinite heals, so more range is needed for balance. ---
**Author:** ![CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ct1924/32/106572_2.png) [@CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CT1924)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/39 "2020-04-05T18:58:00Z")
> [@InS\_Hypno](#): > > (Quote) > You didn’t understand what I’m talking about and it kinda plays into my point > THERE’S PROBABLY A BILLION THINGS MAKING YOUR EXPERIENCE WORSE BEFORE THE GUN BALANCE > The 2A and Suomi both need to be nerfed > They shouldn’t be a thing, the only thing that can consistently compete with these is a shotgun or the same weapon That’s an opinion, not a fact. You just claimed something id op. And provided no evidence. Also, many people believe that gun balance is one of the most important aspects of an FPS game. ---
**Author:** ![CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ct1924/32/106572_2.png) [@CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CT1924)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265/40 "2020-04-05T19:02:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd](#): > > Watched the video. The guy answered his own question. You have to pick your engagements like EVERY OTHER weapon in the game along with routes and flanks.Why would you pick something up or go to an area out of its effective range is beyond me and shows a lack of game sense. Again i see no reason to buff a shotgun if its already strong in its niche that would just invade other weapons sector. Smg’s are a niche. Lmgs are a Niche. MMG’s are an extreme niche. The only weapons that need a pass-through are SLRs. I primarily use them and still feel they are a bit too strong for the little recoil they have. Good points. Weapons do have a niche. However, it does seem a bit off that medic competes in the same range, but has a wider operational range. And unlimited heals. It was the best adjustment I thought of at the time, but less spread from a blast could help with consistency instead, I suppose. But well argued points overall. 🙂 [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265.md?page=1) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/shotgun-adjustments/258265.md?page=3)