# Should defending the flag be more rewarded than capping it? (Conquest) **URL:** \ **Category:** Console\ **Created:** [June 29, 2017, 9:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598 "2017-06-29T09:18:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MrWenting040](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrwenting040/32/102893_2.png) [@MrWenting040](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrWenting040)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 9:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/1 "2017-06-29T09:18:00Z")
Imo they should increase the points for defending the flag and decrease the points for capping the flag. It’s too easy to score points for capping flags that are unmanned. While a couple of guys are trying to defend the capped the flags the majorrity of the people are running around in circles to cap unmanned flags and getting the most points. ---
**Author:** ![JakeNoach](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jakenoach/32/102354_2.png) [@JakeNoach](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JakeNoach)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 9:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/2 "2017-06-29T09:27:00Z")
I say goodmorning. Maybe an increae of points for flag defending is good cause I experience the following: (posted this earlier on the “Squads are useless” topic) Yes… the “defend the flag” order. It’s probably the hardest order for some players. After given the “capture the flag” order the squad nicely captures the flag, that’s fine to me. But when the “defend the flag” sounds everybody flies away from the just captured flag. Only three members left: me, myself and I trying to defend the flag while there are still enemy’s in the neighborhood. And then there comes the enemy duck hunt on me… of course I will be shot in my butt. I shake my head and drink a klots of beer. Order to capture the next flag… aha my squad is there, defending … where is everybody!!! It’s hillarious. ---
**Author:** ![sfreeman73](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@sfreeman73](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/sfreeman73)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 11:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/3 "2017-06-29T11:48:00Z")
Agreed increase the points for defending here’s my idea (conquest) Capping - 25pts per tick with 200pt bonus for completing Kills - killing a defender inside a cap zone 150 Killing an attacker from an friendly cap zone 200 Killing a player anywhere else from anywhere else 10pts Kills from vehicles 50 regardless of location Moving less than 5 m and not shooting or spotting in 20 seconds - lose 50% of your points Following an order - double points ie killing a defender inside a marked cap zone 300pts Giving an order 100(when completed) Requesting an order when there is already an order given lose 500 ---
**Author:** ![MrWenting040](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrwenting040/32/102893_2.png) [@MrWenting040](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrWenting040)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 12:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/4 "2017-06-29T12:19:00Z")
> [@sfreeman73](#): > > Agreed increase the points for defending here’s my idea (conquest) > > Capping - 25pts per tick with 200pt bonus for completing > > Kills - > killing a defender inside a cap zone 150 > Killing an attacker from an friendly cap zone 200 > Killing a player anywhere else from anywhere else 10pts > Kills from vehicles 50 regardless of location > > Moving less than 5 m and not shooting or spotting in 20 seconds - lose 50% of your points > Following an order - double points ie killing a defender inside a marked cap zone 300pts > Giving an order 100(when completed) > Requesting an order when there is already an order given lose 500 To be honest I don’t have a clue what the best distribution of points should be. But clearly DICE should figure out a way that people start defending the flags more. Maybe it’s just unclear to most of the people (at least to me) how much points they earn or can earn with defending ---
**Author:** ![MRSJEIKS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@MRSJEIKS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MRSJEIKS)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 12:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/5 "2017-06-29T12:33:00Z")
For Operations this is not relevant. A lot of action whdn you want to cap a flag. But for Conquest i can agree. ---
**Author:** ![MrWenting040](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrwenting040/32/102893_2.png) [@MrWenting040](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrWenting040)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 12:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/6 "2017-06-29T12:40:00Z")
> [@MRSJEIKS](#): > > For Operations this is not relevant. A lot of action whdn you want to cap a flag. But for Conquest i can agree. You’re right this topic was meant about CQ ---
**Author:** ![ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ninjapenquinuk)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 1:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/7 "2017-06-29T13:12:00Z")
Do we not already get flag defence points for kills in cap zones, and the “defend flag” squad points are pretty easy to get. I do think maybe some kind of reward for “camping” in a cap zone should be forth coming ---
**Author:** ![MrWenting040](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrwenting040/32/102893_2.png) [@MrWenting040](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrWenting040)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 1:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/8 "2017-06-29T13:23:00Z")
> [@ninjapenquinuk](#): > > Do we not already get flag defence points for kills in cap zones, and the “defend flag” squad points are pretty easy to get. I do think maybe some kind of reward for “camping” in a cap zone should be forth coming Yeah something like that. If u stay for a minute at a capped flag u get extra points and the flag should get some sort of marking so the enemy knows the flag is recently capped. If the enemy launch a counter attack within that minute they can also gain some extra points. ---
**Author:** ![sfreeman73](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@sfreeman73](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/sfreeman73)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/9 "2017-06-29T14:20:00Z")
The problem is you only get points for defending if you get a kill from the cap zone or a tiny 100 points if it’s marked up for the full time (I don’t know if it’s a full minute or just 30 seconds either way you get nothing if anything changes in that time) there is zero incentive to defend ---
**Author:** ![OG-N2rock](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/og-n2rock/32/103006_2.png) [@OG-N2rock](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OG-N2rock)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/10 "2017-06-29T14:31:00Z")
> [@sfreeman73](#): > > The problem is you only get points for defending if you get a kill from the cap zone or a tiny 100 points if it’s marked up for the full time (I don’t know if it’s a full minute or just 30 seconds either way you get nothing if anything changes in that time) there is zero incentive to defend This ^^^ Exactly! If you want points, you have to move to the next flag to cap, unfortunately. Point wise, there is very little incentive to hang around. ---
**Author:** ![blindsniper63](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/blindsniper63/32/101021_2.png) [@blindsniper63](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/blindsniper63)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/11 "2017-06-29T15:30:00Z")
I could always have another beer waiting for the enemy to arrive while i’m defending the flag . ---
**Author:** ![MRSJEIKS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@MRSJEIKS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MRSJEIKS)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/12 "2017-06-29T15:56:00Z")
> [@MrWenting040](#): > > > [@MRSJEIKS](#): > > > > For Operations this is not relevant. A lot of action whdn you want to cap a flag. But for Conquest i can agree. > > You’re right this topic was meant about CQ In sorry, my friend. My fault. I read to fast. ---
**Author:** ![OG-N2rock](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/og-n2rock/32/103006_2.png) [@OG-N2rock](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OG-N2rock)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/13 "2017-06-29T16:01:00Z")
> [@blindsniper63](#): > > I could always have another beer waiting for the enemy to arrive while i’m defending the flag . hahaha… That’s the truth right there! ---
**Author:** ![19lee78](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/a5b964/32.png) [@19lee78](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/19lee78)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/14 "2017-06-29T21:48:00Z")
Absolutely not, campers defend flags for the easy kills. Us lot leading the charge capturing should get the big points. ---
**Author:** ![dfwviking](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dfwviking/32/101710_2.png) [@dfwviking](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dfwviking)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/15 "2017-06-29T22:16:00Z")
I think they should also fix the defend points so they are only awarded if the enemy is in the same cap area - i.e. I should not get defends while in the fortress gun at A flag lobbing shells halfway across the map. I do think they need to up the defend points some. I would also like points for blowing up the sides of buildings facing my teams spawn points, but that is just a service I provide I guess. ---
**Author:** ![ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ninjapenquinuk)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/16 "2017-06-30T09:29:00Z")
> [@19lee78](#): > > Absolutely not, campers defend flags for the easy kills. Us lot leading the charge capturing should get the big points. But with no one defending a lot of the flags that big brave charge of yours usually ends up with you (and half your team mates) at an undefended flag. Go you! ---
**Author:** ![Knucklehead23jp](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/knucklehead23jp/32/102553_2.png) [@Knucklehead23jp](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Knucklehead23jp)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/17 "2017-07-18T02:19:00Z")
I think PTFO should also count as defending not just capping and running like hell to the next.its frustrating when you follow orders to a capture zone and have to come back not a minute latter because the team didn’t sweep and clearly or hold fast for the counterattack. Ive read alot of ww1 books and bite and hold is clearly the tactics they used. It gets old when you set up for a defence and some blue dude starts hitting you with his melee and runs off to the next undeffened objective as if your a coward hiding. I think PTFO and the max points given should only happen after repelling an attack or a time limit on objective. I’m not a camper if I’m trying to keep the flag blue and the points rolling. Clear cap defend to me is PTFO. Front lines shows if you don’t clear, as soon as your pushed back a stay behind team is already in hiding waiting to cap before your back to defend. So I totally agree more points or something for defending the objectives because you only half played it if you run off leaving it for the enemy ---
**Author:** ![Skill4Reel](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@Skill4Reel](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Skill4Reel)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 6:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/18 "2017-07-18T06:33:00Z")
I see lots of people in conquest matches that aren’t running from flag to flag for points, but these people aren’t defending the flags either. There have been too many matches where myself and my squad of platoon members will all be at the top of the score board with 20K points a piece. Only the reason our squad has so many captures (and defends for that matter) is because other people aren’t doing anything. We will capture D flag and defend it, and then realize that D flag is the only one on the map that our team has control of. So then we move over to capture B, and when we get that flag under control. We’ve immediately lost control of D. So now B is the only flag that we have control of. The whole match will be like this sometimes on a team with thirty people on it. It should be common sense at this point that flags need to be defended to win. The game reminds us of this every single time we enter a conquest match on the loading screen. I always see people saying that they aren’t camping, they are defending. Well if your defense isn’t keeping the objective icons blue, then it just looks like camping to me. ---
**Author:** ![tumadrekoncha](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@tumadrekoncha](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/tumadrekoncha)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 8:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/19 "2017-07-18T08:28:00Z")
> [@MrWenting040](#): > > Imo they should increase the points for defending the flag and decrease the points for capping the flag. It’s too easy to score points for capping flags that are unmanned. While a couple of guys are trying to defend the capped the flags the majorrity of the people are running around in circles to cap unmanned flags and getting the most points. This^^^^^ Plus defending a flag might be a move to not let the enemy advance to other caped flags but most players are running around from flag to flag…i think i need to get a into a good teamworking squad and not play with randoms(sometimes great people appear from nowhere though tbh) Peace 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![INCUBA3E-BF](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/incuba3e-bf/32/102163_2.png) [@INCUBA3E-BF](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/INCUBA3E-BF)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 8:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/should-defending-the-flag-be-more-rewarded-than-capping-it-conquest/255598/20 "2017-07-18T08:50:00Z")
some of my favourite games have been capping enemy spawn flag, and just holding defending it til the end, you can really turn the tide of a game doing this, had a game last night where we jumped in a game late, down 200 tickets and our squad just focused on their spawn flag, destroy all armour, and the enemy see red and want that flag back so the then forget about the other flags, giving our team a chance to cap all other flags and win good practice try it