# Sides specific weapon **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 19, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420 "2016-05-19T15:11:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/35a633/32.png) [@zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zePokar1)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/1 "2016-05-19T15:11:00Z")
Do you think we will have sides specific weapons in the game or will you be able to play with any weapons, any grenades regardless of what team you’re playing in ? I hope they’ve made it so that when you play as german you have only acess to german equipments and so on. ---
**Author:** ![visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/visegrip117/32/104005_2.png) [@visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/visegrip117)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/2 "2016-05-19T15:30:00Z")
I believe they said the vehicle will be different per side (naturally) but they will also control differently. Not sure about the weapons. If I had to guess all will be available no matter which faction ---
**Author:** ![NatsuTerran](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@NatsuTerran](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NatsuTerran)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/3 "2016-05-19T15:35:00Z")
Yeah, I desperately hope for faction-specific weapons but I don’t have any faith in Dice to do the right thing here. Gamers are too spoiled by shallow stuff like weapon variety and customization to see the true beauty of it. ---
**Author:** ![DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingokillr/32/101728_2.png) [@DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DingoKillr)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/4 "2016-05-19T15:41:00Z")
> [@visegrip117](#): > > I believe they said the vehicle will be different per side (naturally) but they will also control differently. Not sure about the weapons. If I had to guess all will be available no matter which faction No, they said tanks will feel different to each other. Faction specific vehicles not always the case, German used many British/French tanks. ---
**Author:** ![DannyTanner17](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dannytanner17/32/101626_2.png) [@DannyTanner17](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DannyTanner17)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/5 "2016-05-19T15:43:00Z")
Vehicles yes based on the commentary from the trailer reveal, but I’m not sure about weapons. I don’t know enough about the history of WW1 weapons, but wonder if keeping them faction-specific would reduce the available options too much. ---
**Author:** ![visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/visegrip117/32/104005_2.png) [@visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/visegrip117)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/6 "2016-05-19T15:45:00Z")
> [@DingoKillr](#): > > > [@visegrip117](#): > > > > I believe they said the vehicle will be different per side (naturally) but they will also control differently. Not sure about the weapons. If I had to guess all will be available no matter which faction > > No, they said tanks will feel different to each other. Faction specific vehicles not always the case, German used many British/French tanks. About the faction specific, are you judging by previous games or historically? I could be wrong but I believe in all the previous games the vehicles were faction specific. About the controlling 4th dot down [http://www.gameinformer.com/games/battlefield\_1/b/playstation4/archive/2016/05/06/everything-you-need-to-know-from-the-battlefield-1-livestream.aspx](http://www.gameinformer.com/games/battlefield_1/b/playstation4/archive/2016/05/06/everything-you-need-to-know-from-the-battlefield-1-livestream.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingokillr/32/101728_2.png) [@DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DingoKillr)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/7 "2016-05-19T15:46:00Z")
> [@zePokar1](#): > > Do you think we will have sides specific weapons in the game or will you be able to play with any weapons, any grenades regardless of what team you’re playing in ? I hope they’ve made it so that when you play as german you have only acess to german equipments and so on. That may be the case in SP campaign. But MP play no thanks, the Germans had a need to develop Anti-Tank weapons fast compared to the British, thus the Germans had more. ---
**Author:** ![visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/visegrip117/32/104005_2.png) [@visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/visegrip117)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/8 "2016-05-19T15:49:00Z")
> [@DingoKillr](#): > > > [@zePokar1](#): > > > > Do you think we will have sides specific weapons in the game or will you be able to play with any weapons, any grenades regardless of what team you’re playing in ? I hope they’ve made it so that when you play as german you have only acess to german equipments and so on. > > That may be the case in SP campaign. But MP play no thanks, the Germans had a need to develop Anti-Tank weapons fast compared to the British, thus the Germans had more. Fair enough, I was just going by my memory on previous games and from what the devs said. I’m sure that whatever one side has the other will have something similar. I can’t see one side starting way better off than the other. Each side will have a counter part to the other for balance if I had to guess ---
**Author:** ![m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/m1k3ol)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/9 "2016-05-19T15:58:00Z")
I hope not, makes me remember BF3 and Hardline weapon lock per faction ('till you unlock it) I’m not a fan of that ---
**Author:** ![zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/35a633/32.png) [@zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zePokar1)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/10 "2016-05-19T16:00:00Z")
I think it gives each faction an identity and unique feel. I personnally would love it as long as the balance is there. ---
**Author:** ![m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/m1k3ol)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/11 "2016-05-19T16:05:00Z")
From the get go, yes, but gameplay wise is a pain (for me) Remember that Bf3 had the M16A3 faction locked (before unlock at 100 kills) and the RU weapon was nowhere as good Getting unlocks is a pain as well (while it’s locked), you unlock stuff and the next round you end up weapon-less since you can get switched ---
**Author:** ![DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingokillr/32/101728_2.png) [@DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DingoKillr)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/12 "2016-05-19T16:07:00Z")
> [@visegrip117](#): > > > [@DingoKillr](#): > > > > > [@visegrip117](#): > > > > > > I believe they said the vehicle will be different per side (naturally) but they will also control differently. Not sure about the weapons. If I had to guess all will be available no matter which faction > > > > No, they said tanks will feel different to each other. Faction specific vehicles not always the case, German used many British/French tanks. > > About the faction specific, are you judging by previous games or historically? I could be wrong but I believe in all the previous games the vehicles were faction specific. > > About the controlling > 4th dot down > [http://www.gameinformer.com/games/battlefield\_1/b/playstation4/archive/2016/05/06/everything-you-need-to-know-from-the-battlefield-1-livestream.aspx](http://www.gameinformer.com/games/battlefield_1/b/playstation4/archive/2016/05/06/everything-you-need-to-know-from-the-battlefield-1-livestream.aspx) First the link is broken. History. As some vehicles did not have equivalent in the opposing faction. DICE have said their will be classes of tanks Heavy, Medium and Light. If we restrict to faction the Germans would only have 1 Tank type, while the Allies could have like 20+ different types. The British had what was a Male/Female version of the same tank 1 had 3 Cannon/3 MG while the other 1 Cannon/5 MG. The British even had a APC, I have yet to find in any other faction. ---
**Author:** ![visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/visegrip117/32/104005_2.png) [@visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/visegrip117)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/13 "2016-05-19T16:34:00Z")
> [@DingoKillr](#): > > > [@visegrip117](#): > > > > > [@DingoKillr](#): > > > > > > > [@visegrip117](#): > > > > > > > > I believe they said the vehicle will be different per side (naturally) but they will also control differently. Not sure about the weapons. If I had to guess all will be available no matter which faction > > > > > > No, they said tanks will feel different to each other. Faction specific vehicles not always the case, German used many British/French tanks. > > > > About the faction specific, are you judging by previous games or historically? I could be wrong but I believe in all the previous games the vehicles were faction specific. > > > > About the controlling > > 4th dot down > > [http://www.gameinformer.com/games/battlefield\_1/b/playstation4/archive/2016/05/06/everything-you-need-to-know-from-the-battlefield-1-livestream.aspx](http://www.gameinformer.com/games/battlefield_1/b/playstation4/archive/2016/05/06/everything-you-need-to-know-from-the-battlefield-1-livestream.aspx) > > First the link is broken. > > History. As some vehicles did not have equivalent in the opposing faction. > > DICE have said their will be classes of tanks Heavy, Medium and Light. > > If we restrict to faction the Germans would only have 1 Tank type, while the Allies could have like 20+ different types. The British had what was a Male/Female version of the same tank 1 had 3 Cannon/3 MG while the other 1 Cannon/5 MG. > The British even had a APC, I have yet to find in any other faction. The link works for me. Maybe someone else could try it and comment so we can figure if it’s on your end or if it’s my link posting abilities. Id feel safer making guesses based off what dice has done in their previous games rather than what happened in history. Balance will trump being historically correct in the game world. There has been different “weight” tanks in the last 4-5 games dice has released. I didn’t say not expect it would be any different this time. You’re basing too much on history rather than experience. They will balance the game. If the allies have 20 tanks the axis likely will too. There were more militaries than just the German on the axis side 😉 ---
**Author:** ![fitzysalford](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/fitzysalford/32/101958_2.png) [@fitzysalford](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/fitzysalford)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/14 "2016-05-19T17:07:00Z")
I also hope they don’t go down the route of faction specific weapons. The game usually balances by swapping the top squads on each side. This results in locking players into only being able to play with one factions weapons. Players that only want to play with one weapon will swap sides constantly causing sides to be imbalanced. As for the immersion argument, I cant tell which AR etc I was killed with (unless its the only burst fire in that group) until it appears along the bottom of the screen. ---
**Author:** ![DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingokillr/32/101728_2.png) [@DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DingoKillr)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/15 "2016-05-19T18:01:00Z")
> [@visegrip117](#): > > The link works for me. Maybe someone else could try it and comment so we can figure if it’s on your end or if it’s my link posting abilities. > > Id feel safer making guesses based off what dice has done in their previous games rather than what happened in history. Balance will trump being historically correct in the game world. > > There has been different “weight” tanks in the last 4-5 games dice has released. I didn’t say not expect it would be any different this time. You’re basing too much on history rather than experience. They will balance the game. If the allies have 20 tanks the axis likely will too. > > There were more militaries than just the German on the axis side 😉 The link has a location block. Different “weight” Tanks is not the same thing. BF3 had MBT, IFV and Tank Destroyers for each faction. Germany had only 1 tank type which they only 20 deployed in the last few months of the war and 1 prototype. Germany was the largest supply of weapons to other Central Powers. Britain and France produce over 6000 tanks with just 2 versions around the middle of the war, these 2 factions supplied many other factions as well as some of factions had their own version too. If we have factions specific then the Central power would be struggling to get to 5 different tanks across all their faction. If we don’t have specific faction vehicle then the Central powers would have access to more tanks. ---
**Author:** ![visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/visegrip117/32/104005_2.png) [@visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/visegrip117)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/16 "2016-05-19T18:13:00Z")
> [@DingoKillr](#): > > > [@visegrip117](#): > > > > The link works for me. Maybe someone else could try it and comment so we can figure if it’s on your end or if it’s my link posting abilities. > > > > Id feel safer making guesses based off what dice has done in their previous games rather than what happened in history. Balance will trump being historically correct in the game world. > > > > There has been different “weight” tanks in the last 4-5 games dice has released. I didn’t say not expect it would be any different this time. You’re basing too much on history rather than experience. They will balance the game. If the allies have 20 tanks the axis likely will too. > > > > There were more militaries than just the German on the axis side 😉 > > The link has a location block. > > Different “weight” Tanks is not the same thing. BF3 had MBT, IFV and Tank Destroyers for each faction. > Germany had only 1 tank type which they only 20 deployed in the last few months of the war and 1 prototype. Germany was the largest supply of weapons to other Central Powers. > > Britain and France produce over 6000 tanks with just 2 versions around the middle of the war, these 2 factions supplied many other factions as well as some of factions had their own version too. > > If we have factions specific then the Central power would be struggling to get to 5 different tanks across all their faction. If we don’t have specific faction vehicle then the Central powers would have access to more tanks. Man, I don’t know what else to tell you. Again you’re more focused on history than previous games and common sense. In dice games the vehicles were usually faction specific, even if they were not accurate. There will be tanks on both sides even if they have to make one up The game will be balanced For every vehicle on one side there will be something on the other to counter/balance against it Do you really think one side will have all these cool vehicles and the other side will have nothing but one tank? Let’s try it this way. What are you afraid is going to happen if the vehicles are faction specific (which they usually are) ---
**Author:** ![DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingokillr/32/101728_2.png) [@DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DingoKillr)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/17 "2016-05-19T18:46:00Z")
In BF4 every faction had there own MBT, IFV or jeeps. They even have a few vehicle that don’t have faction, like the RHIB or the Mobile Artillery M142. DICE will most likely not make up Vehicles out of thin air, the only time they have done so was BF4:Finial Stand(available to all) and BF2142(faction specific) which are future settings. > [@](#): > > Do you really think one side will have all these cool vehicles and the other side will have nothing but one tank? That is what you are asking for. You want faction specific authenticity but then say if they don’t have make it up. Germany used hundreds of captured tanks why does DICE need to make them up when they can easily allow all faction to have British tanks and still be authentic. ---
**Author:** ![schallsj](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/schallsj/32/103378_2.png) [@schallsj](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/schallsj)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/18 "2016-05-19T18:53:00Z")
I hope it’s locked. If you want an enemy weapon, pick one up. ---
**Author:** ![visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/visegrip117/32/104005_2.png) [@visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/visegrip117)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sides-specific-weapon/101420/19 "2016-05-19T19:33:00Z")
> [@DingoKillr](#): > > In BF4 every faction had there own MBT, IFV or jeeps. They even have a few vehicle that don’t have faction, like the RHIB or the Mobile Artillery M142. > > DICE will most likely not make up Vehicles out of thin air, the only time they have done so was BF4:Finial Stand(available to all) and BF2142(faction specific) which are future settings. > > > [@](#): > > > > Do you really think one side will have all these cool vehicles and the other side will have nothing but one tank? > > That is what you are asking for. > > You want faction specific authenticity but then say if they don’t have make it up. > Germany used hundreds of captured tanks why does DICE need to make them up when they can easily allow all faction to have British tanks and still be authentic. Lol I never asked for faction specific anything, I only said that in their previous games that was usually the case BF is not and isn’t going to be a 100% historically correct game. Balance trumps being accurate. Just Bc Germany only had one tank in real life does not mean that it guarantees that will be the case in this game. It’s a video game not a history class man. If they have to the will embellish a lil to balance the game. Was there ever a knife with a bipod in any wars that you know of? I don’t know what else to tel you. I guess ask a developer or wait till the game comes out. I hope everything works out for you