# Sniper hates and kids ruined bf series **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 19, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309 "2016-06-19T22:41:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAYER_Of_PIGS)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/21 "2016-06-20T00:06:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#): > > > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > > By sniper haters you mean people that are actually useful? > > > > Snipers players are usufel like other class, but this isnt the center of discussion, now if u understand what i mean ok otherwise do what u want. > > I understand your point.You think camping on a hill is “strategic”.Sorry to burst your bubble but snipers are actually useless and almost everyone hates them Tell me what snipers done in the war, explain it to me. Maybe in the war they ran through the bullets? ---
**Author:** ![Stil3r](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Stil3r](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Stil3r)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/22 "2016-06-20T00:18:00Z")
Snipers get way too much hate, it’s just people that like to play games differently then you do. Some people like run n gun, some like sniping, some like rolling in tanks, there’s many different playstyles and saying one is terrible is just asinine. ---
**Author:** ![SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAYER_Of_PIGS)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/23 "2016-06-20T00:25:00Z")
> [@Stil3r](#): > > Snipers get way too much hate, it’s just people that like to play games differently then you do. Some people like run n gun, some like sniping, some like rolling in tanks, there’s many different playstyles and saying one is terrible is just asinine. Right what u say, i play with all class and a would like a game where the game isnt too far from reality, scope glint in the night, clouds and in the shadow or machine guns that need one magazine for kill is not so close to reality. Im with all classes ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/24 "2016-06-20T00:26:00Z")
I don’t necessarily despise the hate towards snipers, as A TON of them do sit on hills and are generally useless when it comes to the overall point of the match (even in kills). What I hate is everyone pooling aggressive sniping players who DO PTO in with the worthless snipers, and just assume that because you enjoy using snipers, that there’s no possible or fathomable way that you PTO and help the team. It gets pretty ridiculous when I have a 40+% accuracy with most sniper rifles, a 1KPM with most sniper rifles, and post Battle Reports with me getting 30+ kills and 700+SPM, and people STILL say I’m a camper just because I use a bolt-action weapon. ---
**Author:** ![iPLAYnFOURkay](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/iplaynfourkay/32/102316_2.png) [@iPLAYnFOURkay](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iPLAYnFOURkay)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/25 "2016-06-20T00:39:00Z")
> [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#): > > I saw bf1 multiplayer session and i can say that players now run and shoot just like cod, for kill somebody u need one magazine and the bullets fall down after 30 mettes, so players running and dont care about be shooting because the bullets doesnt make so much damage. > The sniper class is ruined because sniper hates that like run and shoot complain about be killed with one bullets like its in the real life and put scope glint in the night in the shadow and with cluds. So the game isnt strategic, u can runnig everywhere because u know that enemt bring with him water gun. Sorry for my no perfect english > I remember when i played bad company 2 and it wasnt like bf3 bf4 bh an bf1 it was strategic and nobody coplain about the weapons power. > I think we need a game that give valor at player and not at his ping! If these are your complaints, you clearly never played any of the original Battlefield titles prior to BC2. And no, BC2 was not strategic. It was the first Battlefield game to take a major leap in the direction of arcade shooters (aka more in the style of COD). ---
**Author:** ![ChickNFoot](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/chicknfoot/32/101502_2.png) [@ChickNFoot](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChickNFoot)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/26 "2016-06-20T01:05:00Z")
What a suprise a person has no clue what he’s talking about. As with the whole COD thing it sounds like your the child. The SMGs from what I have seen looked good, as well the TTK on everythinf seems to be fine. Snipers in BF1 now has a different damage model then in bf4, is that good? Yes in BF4 all snipers 1 hit kill wise acted the same. Below 10 or 15 meters is a 1 hit expect for defensive. In bf1 there will be rifles that can 1 hit far away but don’t at medium range. Then there are some that 1 hit at medium but can’t at close range and long. While I didn’t see any 1 hit kills below 10 meters I have to say I don’t thibk that’s such a bad thing. This adds more depth to the BF4 sniper model and while it makes no sense that a bullet can 1 hit at 40 meters and can’t at 15 it provides variety and playing the class the way it should be player, far away so your out of effective regular weapons ranges but not close enough where your then useing a getto sniper. And from a person who says they hill humps with a gravatar like that I can say that I’m glad that we won’t be seeing you in BF1. If your argument for any of the above is realsim then you are lost. ---
**Author:** ![DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingokillr/32/101728_2.png) [@DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DingoKillr)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/27 "2016-06-20T01:40:00Z")
> [@ChickNFoot](#): > > What a suprise a person has no clue what he’s talking about. > > As with the whole COD thing it sounds like your the child. The SMGs from what I have seen looked good, as well the TTK on everythinf seems to be fine. > > Snipers in BF1 now has a different damage model then in bf4, is that good? Yes in BF4 all snipers 1 hit kill wise acted the same. Below 10 or 15 meters is a 1 hit expect for defensive. > > In bf1 there will be rifles that can 1 hit far away but don’t at medium range. Then there are some that 1 hit at medium but can’t at close range and long. While I didn’t see any 1 hit kills below 10 meters I have to say I don’t thibk that’s such a bad thing. This adds more depth to the BF4 sniper model and while it makes no sense that a bullet can 1 hit at 40 meters and can’t at 15 it provides variety and playing the class the way it should be player, far away so your out of effective regular weapons ranges but not close enough where your then useing a getto sniper. > > And from a person who says they hill humps with a gravatar like that I can say that I’m glad that we won’t be seeing you in BF1. > > If your argument for any of the above is realsim then you are lost. The only reason you have not seen and 1HK in close is because no one may not have recorded any. This is from Levelcap video you can see the Russian -TR has a sweet spot in CQB. ![ESnlCbJ.png](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/6/4/64315bfd630c23986021bb1f2e81d648c000ca30.png) ---
**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/28 "2016-06-20T03:55:00Z")
> [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#): > > > [@Lancang\_L1ama](#): > > > > Inside or outside 30 mettes it should be 1 hit kill > > Yes right, and 2 o maybe 3 with machinegun both of you need to learn how to aim better. ---
**Author:** ![SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAYER_Of_PIGS)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/29 "2016-06-20T10:35:00Z")
> [@DingoKillr](#): > > > [@ChickNFoot](#): > > > > What a suprise a person has no clue what he’s talking about. > > > > As with the whole COD thing it sounds like your the child. The SMGs from what I have seen looked good, as well the TTK on everythinf seems to be fine. > > > > Snipers in BF1 now has a different damage model then in bf4, is that good? Yes in BF4 all snipers 1 hit kill wise acted the same. Below 10 or 15 meters is a 1 hit expect for defensive. > > > > In bf1 there will be rifles that can 1 hit far away but don’t at medium range. Then there are some that 1 hit at medium but can’t at close range and long. While I didn’t see any 1 hit kills below 10 meters I have to say I don’t thibk that’s such a bad thing. This adds more depth to the BF4 sniper model and while it makes no sense that a bullet can 1 hit at 40 meters and can’t at 15 it provides variety and playing the class the way it should be player, far away so your out of effective regular weapons ranges but not close enough where your then useing a getto sniper. > > > > And from a person who says they hill humps with a gravatar like that I can say that I’m glad that we won’t be seeing you in BF1. > > > > If your argument for any of the above is realsim then you are lost. > > The only reason you have not seen and 1HK in close is because no one may not have recorded any. > > This is from Levelcap video you can see the Russian -TR has a sweet spot in CQB. > ![ESnlCbJ.png](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/6/4/64315bfd630c23986021bb1f2e81d648c000ca30.png) the problem in the my discussion is not only on sniper and his problem, read better whati meant. ---
**Author:** ![SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAYER_Of_PIGS)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:36am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/30 "2016-06-20T10:36:00Z")
> [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#): > > > > > [@Lancang\_L1ama](#): > > > > > > Inside or outside 30 mettes it should be 1 hit kill > > > > Yes right, and 2 o maybe 3 with machinegun > > both of you need to learn how to aim better. my aim is not so bad, the problem i meant is not that read my discussion better ---
**Author:** ![SucqMacaque](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sucqmacaque/32/102710_2.png) [@SucqMacaque](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SucqMacaque)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/31 "2016-06-20T10:38:00Z")
> [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > Sniper haters aka people that PTO and win the match. > > Snipers are like back up QBs on a championship team. Yeah, they’ll get a ring too, but do they really deserve it? Snipers haters more like aka, noobs that are to salty when recons have 30k more points than anyone else at the end of the match. And if 20 players like u lose from 2 decent medics and cant push trough than is some poor recon from your team with most kills and points to blame. I mean look at your stats, like you are the ONE that made change on server, dream on only guys that can make change on server alone and win almost every time are those beasty medics with 4-6 k/d and 100 mcom destroyed medals, 100 mvp, 100 etc… with 200k+ kils with m16 or aek or an, and even they lose sometimes and they need at least 2-3 decent friends with them to get that W so you are in the same boat with me and those recons you mention lucky enough to have better players in ur team than enemy team has… ---
**Author:** ![SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAYER_Of_PIGS)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/32 "2016-06-20T10:39:00Z")
> [@ChickNFoot](#): > > What a suprise a person has no clue what he’s talking about. > > As with the whole COD thing it sounds like your the child. The SMGs from what I have seen looked good, as well the TTK on everythinf seems to be fine. > > Snipers in BF1 now has a different damage model then in bf4, is that good? Yes in BF4 all snipers 1 hit kill wise acted the same. Below 10 or 15 meters is a 1 hit expect for defensive. > > In bf1 there will be rifles that can 1 hit far away but don’t at medium range. Then there are some that 1 hit at medium but can’t at close range and long. While I didn’t see any 1 hit kills below 10 meters I have to say I don’t thibk that’s such a bad thing. This adds more depth to the BF4 sniper model and while it makes no sense that a bullet can 1 hit at 40 meters and can’t at 15 it provides variety and playing the class the way it should be player, far away so your out of effective regular weapons ranges but not close enough where your then useing a getto sniper. > > And from a person who says they hill humps with a gravatar like that I can say that I’m glad that we won’t be seeing you in BF1. > > If your argument for any of the above is realsim then you are lost. for u everything is good because you like this kind of game, for me the guns that kill with one bullet has kill with it, for me tha machine guns that kill with one bullets has do that. Read better the descussion and not only think to counter what I say ---
**Author:** ![SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAYER_Of_PIGS)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/33 "2016-06-20T10:46:00Z")
> [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#): > > > > I saw bf1 multiplayer session and i can say that players now run and shoot just like cod > > do they now? > > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#): > > > > for kill somebody u need one magazine and the bullets fall down after 30 mettes, > > so what you’re saying is you dont know anything about CoD and you’re just using CoD as an insult because you have no idea what you’re talking about? > > CoD guns are perfectly accurate, hitscan, and have higher damage models than BF so…what you’re describing is the polar opposite of CoD. > > Im not reading the rest of your post. yes dont read other because im spaking of other and not of cod, if u are interessed to improve the game u are welcome but u come here for only think to counter what I say ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/34 "2016-06-20T11:01:00Z")
> [@adsinaction](#): > > There is no single, more rage inducing way to die than a melon pop from hundreds of meters out. Maybe for a sniper. But for most people that happens roughly one in ten games (judged on my own experience). Hardly gonna rage over something that barely ever happens. Sorry to burst your bubble. ---
**Author:** ![GazAlexander](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GazAlexander](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GazAlexander)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/35 "2016-06-20T11:20:00Z")
I’ll get 80/0 KD ratio and I will laugh at your claims that I’m cheating!! MWHAHAHA!! ---
**Author:** ![SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAYER_Of_PIGS)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/36 "2016-06-20T11:33:00Z")
> [@GazAlexander](#): > > I’ll get 80/0 KD ratio and I will laugh at your claims that I’m cheating!! MWHAHAHA!! sometime i think that im asking to much at people brain ---
**Author:** ![doonwallaby](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/doonwallaby/32/101766_2.png) [@doonwallaby](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/doonwallaby)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/37 "2016-06-20T11:55:00Z")
> [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#): > > sometime i think that im asking to much at people brain This is the most fantastic thing that has ever been said in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAYER_Of_PIGS)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/38 "2016-06-20T12:31:00Z")
> [@doonwallaby](#): > > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#): > > > > sometime i think that im asking to much at people brain > > This is the most fantastic thing that has ever been said in this forum. lol ---
**Author:** ![B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/b3antown_b3a5t/32/101262_2.png) [@B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/B3ANTOWN_B3A5T)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/39 "2016-06-20T15:50:00Z")
Sometime i think that im asking tew much at people brain ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/40 "2016-06-20T16:15:00Z")
lol, you should really stop asking people to “read your argument better” - because your English is seemingly not all too good, and a lot of what you said, in the English language, makes very little sense. Secondly - sniper rifles are fine, and that’s coming from someone who only uses sniper rifles in this game (check my top 10 in BL if you don’t believe me). Running and gunning isn’t ruining sniping in this franchise, sniping is just like it has been in past games. Just because the OHK range was shortened from that of Bad Company 2 doesn’t mean anything - I did perfectly fine in BF3 and BF4 as well, and we who like using sniper rifles aggressively will more than likely be fine in Battlefield 1. You don’t NEED an OHK range of 30 meters to do well, that’s just a crutch. Your accuracy is high enough that you should be able to out-aim most people in all situations - like Xer said, you need to learn to aim for the head more, or stay out of head-to-head gunfights. I’m dedicated to all things bolt-action in this game and I, like many other aggro snipers, are fine with this game. The only thing that hindered that in BF4 was the defensive perk, and I doubt we’ll be seeing that in BF1 (perks haven’t even been talked about or hinted at, at all). [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309.md?page=1) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309.md?page=3)