# Sniper hates and kids ruined bf series

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 19, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309 "2016-06-19T22:41:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ventquipue](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ventquipue/32/103988_2.png) [@Ventquipue](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ventquipue)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/41 "2016-06-20T16:21:00Z")

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Riflescopes or not? if the case, admins can customize their server for limited this.  
Likewise for dev’s and building the map. Battlefield, field purify, will require holes, obstacles, To escape (optic) sniper class.  
Ty.

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**Author:** ![B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/b3antown_b3a5t/32/101262_2.png) [@B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/B3ANTOWN_B3A5T)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/42 "2016-06-20T16:23:00Z")

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> [@Ventquipue](#):
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> Riflescopes or not? if the case, admins can customize their server for limited this.  
> Likewise for dev’s and building the map. Battlefield, field purify, will require holes, obstacles, To escape (optic) sniper class.  
> Ty.

Couldnt have said it better myself

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**Author:** ![crakface](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crakface/32/101572_2.png) [@crakface](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crakface)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/43 "2016-06-20T16:35:00Z")

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Sniper.

So focused on 500m kills they forget the man with the shotgun getting ready to snatched the tags off their neck

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**Author:** ![SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAYER_Of_PIGS)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/44 "2016-06-20T20:17:00Z")

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> [@Loqtrall](#):
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> lol, you should really stop asking people to “read your argument better” - because your English is seemingly not all too good, and a lot of what you said, in the English language, makes very little sense.
> 
> Secondly - sniper rifles are fine, and that’s coming from someone who only uses sniper rifles in this game (check my top 10 in BL if you don’t believe me).
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> Running and gunning isn’t ruining sniping in this franchise, sniping is just like it has been in past games. Just because the OHK range was shortened from that of Bad Company 2 doesn’t mean anything - I did perfectly fine in BF3 and BF4 as well, and we who like using sniper rifles aggressively will more than likely be fine in Battlefield 1.
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> You don’t NEED an OHK range of 30 meters to do well, that’s just a crutch. Your accuracy is high enough that you should be able to out-aim most people in all situations - like Xer said, you need to learn to aim for the head more, or stay out of head-to-head gunfights.
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> I’m dedicated to all things bolt-action in this game and I, like many other aggro snipers, are fine with this game. The only thing that hindered that in BF4 was the defensive perk, and I doubt we’ll be seeing that in BF1 (perks haven’t even been talked about or hinted at, at
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> > [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > lol, you should really stop asking people to “read your argument better” - because your English is seemingly not all too good, and a lot of what you said, in the English language, makes very little sense.
> > 
> > Secondly - sniper rifles are fine, and that’s coming from someone who only uses sniper rifles in this game (check my top 10 in BL if you don’t believe me).
> > 
> > Running and gunning isn’t ruining sniping in this franchise, sniping is just like it has been in past games. Just because the OHK range was shortened from that of Bad Company 2 doesn’t mean anything - I did perfectly fine in BF3 and BF4 as well, and we who like using sniper rifles aggressively will more than likely be fine in Battlefield 1.
> > 
> > You don’t NEED an OHK range of 30 meters to do well, that’s just a crutch. Your accuracy is high enough that you should be able to out-aim most people in all situations - like Xer said, you need to learn to aim for the head more, or stay out of head-to-head gunfights.
> > 
> > I’m dedicated to all things bolt-action in this game and I, like many other aggro snipers, are fine with this game. The only thing that hindered that in BF4 was the defensive perk, and I doubt we’ll be seeing that in BF1 (perks haven’t even been talked about or hinted at, at all).
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> This is how u like the game, sorry for my english teacher but this is my best, i love people that think to say bad sentece at people instead to focalize what people mean.i dont have time to read all stupid things u said but i read first your senteces and its enough for me.

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/45 "2016-06-20T20:19:00Z")

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Solid logic (not so solid quoting) - read my first sentence and completely ignore the rest of my argument. Those debating tactics.

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**Author:** ![SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAYER_Of_PIGS)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/46 "2016-06-20T20:25:00Z")

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> [@Loqtrall](#):
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> lol, you should really stop asking people to “read your argument better” - because your English is seemingly not all too good, and a lot of what you said, in the English language, makes very little sense.
> 
> Secondly - sniper rifles are fine, and that’s coming from someone who only uses sniper rifles in this game (check my top 10 in BL if you don’t believe me).
> 
> Running and gunning isn’t ruining sniping in this franchise, sniping is just like it has been in past games. Just because the OHK range was shortened from that of Bad Company 2 doesn’t mean anything - I did perfectly fine in BF3 and BF4 as well, and we who like using sniper rifles aggressively will more than likely be fine in Battlefield 1.
> 
> You don’t NEED an OHK range of 30 meters to do well, that’s just a crutch. Your accuracy is high enough that you should be able to out-aim most people in all situations - like Xer said, you need to learn to aim for the head more, or stay out of head-to-head gunfights.
> 
> I’m dedicated to all things bolt-action in this game and I, like many other aggro snipers, are fine with this game. The only thing that hindered that in BF4 was the defensive perk, and I doubt we’ll be seeing that in BF1 (perks haven’t even been talked about or hinted at, at all).

This is how u like the game, sorry for my english teacher but this is my best, i love people that think to say bad sentece at people instead to focalize what people mean.i dont have time to read all stupid things u said but i read first your senteces and its enough for me.  
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> [@Loqtrall](#):
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> Solid logic (not so solid quoting) - read my first sentence and completely ignore the rest of my argument. Those debating tactics.

Yes u are not gentle i dont spend my time with these kinds of people, im here for a good game for me for u and for all. This game is too far from reality and these are my opinions.

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**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/47 "2016-06-20T20:35:00Z")

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> [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> for u everything is good because you like this kind of game, for me the guns that kill with one bullet has kill with it, for me tha machine guns that kill with one bullets has do that. Read better the descussion and not only think to counter what I say

if you dont like this kind of game, then go play one you like instead of expecting a massive franchise to change for you.

Everyone read your posts fine, you’re just trying to dodge defending your own opinion.

> [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > [@Sir-xer21](#):
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> > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > > I saw bf1 multiplayer session and i can say that players now run and shoot just like cod
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> > do they now?
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> > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > > for kill somebody u need one magazine and the bullets fall down after 30 mettes,
> > 
> > so what you’re saying is you dont know anything about CoD and you’re just using CoD as an insult because you have no idea what you’re talking about?
> > 
> > CoD guns are perfectly accurate, hitscan, and have higher damage models than BF so…what you’re describing is the polar opposite of CoD.
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> > Im not reading the rest of your post.
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> yes dont read other because im spaking of other and not of cod, if u are interessed to improve the game u are welcome but u come here for only think to counter what I say

You’re not speaking of COD, but the post i quoted (the original post) has you whining about how the game is turning into CoD despite having polar opposite mechanics.

Im interested in improving the game, and the first improvement would be to have you finding a game that better suits your needs instead of polluting the discussion here.

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**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/48 "2016-06-20T20:37:00Z")

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> [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > [@doonwallaby](#):
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> > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > > sometime i think that im asking to much at people brain
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> > This is the most fantastic thing that has ever been said in this forum.
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> lol

you didnt notice that he’s mocking you?

> [@Loqtrall](#):
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> You don’t NEED an OHK range of 30 meters to do well, that’s just a crutch. Your accuracy is high enough that you should be able to out-aim most people in all situations - like Xer said, you need to learn to aim for the head more, or stay out of head-to-head gunfights.

his aim isnt that good, he never goes for headshots. his accuracy is straight body shotting.

as for the english, he’s italian.

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/49 "2016-06-20T20:44:00Z")

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> [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > Solid logic (not so solid quoting) - read my first sentence and completely ignore the rest of my argument. Those debating tactics.
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> Yes u are not gentle i dont spend my time with these kinds of people, im here for a good game for me for u and for all. This game is too far from reality and these are my opinions.

This game is too far from reality?

Battlefield hasn’t even been remotely realistic, in all it’s iterations, since the franchise started. Arguing for more realism isn’t going to get you anywhere, because the game doesn’t go for that aspect of gameplay at all, and never has.

It’s about balance - not portraying warfare in a way that matches reality.

> [@Sir-xer21](#):
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> his aim isnt that good, he never goes for headshots. his accuracy is straight body shotting.
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> as for the english, he’s italian.

Hence the “You need to aim more for the head, or stay out of head-to-head gunfights” part.

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**Author:** ![MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MartinBabl)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/50 "2016-06-20T21:06:00Z")

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Snipers have been having a negative effect on a teams outcome at the end of the round. Therefore the sniper rifles are being changed so that players are encouraged to play a certain style. Spotting many enemies is inconvenient and not fun and that is why the flare gun was added. Welcome to the new fun and convenient Battlefield.

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**Author:** ![SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAYER_Of_PIGS)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/51 "2016-06-20T22:10:00Z")

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> [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > Flag Quote ·
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> > > [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > > Solid logic (not so solid quoting) - read my first sentence and completely ignore the rest of my argument. Those debating tactics.
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> > Yes u are not gentle i dont spend my time with these kinds of people, im here for a good game for me for u and for all. This game is too far from reality and these are my opinions.
> 
> This game is too far from reality?
> 
> Battlefield hasn’t even been remotely realistic, in all it’s iterations, since the franchise started. Arguing for more realism isn’t going to get you anywhere, because the game doesn’t go for that aspect of gameplay at all, and never has.
> 
> It’s about balance - not portraying warfare in a way that matches reality.
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> > [@Sir-xer21](#):
> >
> > his aim isnt that good, he never goes for headshots. his accuracy is straight body shotting.
> > 
> > as for the english, he’s italian.
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> Hence the “You need to aim more for the head, or stay out of head-to-head gunfights” part.

I said too far, not its must be realistic

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/52 "2016-06-20T22:31:00Z")

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> [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > > Flag Quote ·
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> > > > [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > > > Solid logic (not so solid quoting) - read my first sentence and completely ignore the rest of my argument. Those debating tactics.
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> > > Yes u are not gentle i dont spend my time with these kinds of people, im here for a good game for me for u and for all. This game is too far from reality and these are my opinions.
> > 
> > This game is too far from reality?
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> > Battlefield hasn’t even been remotely realistic, in all it’s iterations, since the franchise started. Arguing for more realism isn’t going to get you anywhere, because the game doesn’t go for that aspect of gameplay at all, and never has.
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> > It’s about balance - not portraying warfare in a way that matches reality.
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> > > [@Sir-xer21](#):
> > >
> > > his aim isnt that good, he never goes for headshots. his accuracy is straight body shotting.
> > > 
> > > as for the english, he’s italian.
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> > Hence the “You need to aim more for the head, or stay out of head-to-head gunfights” part.
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> I said too far, not its must be realistic

It’s a video game.

EVERY BF ever made has been “too far” from reality. Like I said - look back through the entire franchise, and you won’t find any title that was even REMOTELY realistic. Since your English isn’t too well, (though it has gotten a bit better throughout your responses), you should look up the adjective definition of “remotely” before you make a reply.

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**Author:** ![Bertominus\_Rex](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/71c47a/32.png) [@Bertominus\_Rex](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bertominus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/53 "2016-06-20T22:56:00Z")

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Wasn’t Bad Company 2 the easiest to snipe in?

The classic titles had fog, and if I remember right… no 1HK potential outside of headshots. Bad Company 2 had a significantly larger view distance, and 1hk potential to the upper body below 30 meters. Bf3 added in bullet drop, and it reduced the 1hk range making sniping harder.

I don’t see how BC2 was the ideal example of sniping.

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**Author:** ![adsinaction](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@adsinaction](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/adsinaction)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/54 "2016-06-20T23:24:00Z")

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this threads more salty than an NYC hot pretzel. My theory is sniper hate runs rampant because most that complain about with passion suck at it. I can count on my left hand how many competent snipers I’ve played against. Most that pick up a BAR couldn’t hit a blimp. why do you think so many people play the class? Because it’s a challenge!!! My assumption for this next release does not bode well for the anti recon class. Scout will end up being one of if not the most popular play style. The threads will be fun and the tears will flow heavy.

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**Author:** ![AimbuttNobu](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aimbuttnobu/32/101161_2.png) [@AimbuttNobu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AimbuttNobu)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/55 "2016-06-20T23:28:00Z")

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A classic topic made by person who search ingame “realism” “tactical playing on pub” (lol tatical gaming on pub plz…) and other things that don’t exist in new games anymore. Community it’s so casual that it’s just impossible to make it tactical, no one will cooperate. Who do you want to coop with? 14yo kids screaming “hacker” after they get killed? (to make it clear, I don’t say that all player are around 14 years, but if it’s a half of community, it’s enough). If you want tatic and teamplay go competitive 8v8, 10v10, 5v5 cups.  
Game in public server should be made in that way, to let everyone enjoy it. If game would look in 100% like I’d like oh man…rip bf series I guess.  
and at last…about sniping class.  
In bf4 it was and will be completly useless. It’s just wasting one slot for rpg/defi/med kit. (maybe beacons are rarely useful)  
In bf1…hm. It looks like sniper class won’t be worse, at least stronger, hard to say after watching 45minutes gameplay.

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**Author:** ![SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAYER_Of_PIGS)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/56 "2016-06-20T23:29:00Z")

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> [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > > [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > > > > [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > > > > Solid logic (not so solid quoting) - read my first sentence and completely ignore the rest of my argument. Those debating tactics.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes u are not gentle i dont spend my time with these kinds of people, im here for a good game for me for u and for all. This game is too far from reality and these are my opinions.
> > > 
> > > This game is too far from reality?
> > > 
> > > Battlefield hasn’t even been remotely realistic, in all it’s iterations, since the franchise started. Arguing for more realism isn’t going to get you anywhere, because the game doesn’t go for that aspect of gameplay at all, and never has.
> > > 
> > > It’s about balance - not portraying warfare in a way that matches reality.
> > > 
> > > > [@Sir-xer21](#):
> > > >
> > > > his aim isnt that good, he never goes for headshots. his accuracy is straight body shotting.
> > > > 
> > > > as for the english, he’s italian.
> > > 
> > > Hence the “You need to aim more for the head, or stay out of head-to-head gunfights” part.
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> > I said too far, not its must be realistic
> 
> It’s a video game.
> 
> EVERY BF ever made has been “too far” from reality. Like I said - look back through the entire franchise, and you won’t find any title that was even REMOTELY realistic. Since your English isn’t too well, (though it has gotten a bit better throughout your responses), you should look up the adjective definition of “remotely” before you make a reply.

Want u speak my language and than tell u that u are not good?

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/57 "2016-06-20T23:35:00Z")

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> [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > > > [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > > > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
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> > > > > Flag Quote ·
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> > > > > > [@Loqtrall](#):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Solid logic (not so solid quoting) - read my first sentence and completely ignore the rest of my argument. Those debating tactics.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes u are not gentle i dont spend my time with these kinds of people, im here for a good game for me for u and for all. This game is too far from reality and these are my opinions.
> > > > 
> > > > This game is too far from reality?
> > > > 
> > > > Battlefield hasn’t even been remotely realistic, in all it’s iterations, since the franchise started. Arguing for more realism isn’t going to get you anywhere, because the game doesn’t go for that aspect of gameplay at all, and never has.
> > > > 
> > > > It’s about balance - not portraying warfare in a way that matches reality.
> > > > 
> > > > > [@Sir-xer21](#):
> > > > >
> > > > > his aim isnt that good, he never goes for headshots. his accuracy is straight body shotting.
> > > > > 
> > > > > as for the english, he’s italian.
> > > > 
> > > > Hence the “You need to aim more for the head, or stay out of head-to-head gunfights” part.
> > > 
> > > I said too far, not its must be realistic
> > 
> > It’s a video game.
> > 
> > EVERY BF ever made has been “too far” from reality. Like I said - look back through the entire franchise, and you won’t find any title that was even REMOTELY realistic. Since your English isn’t too well, (though it has gotten a bit better throughout your responses), you should look up the adjective definition of “remotely” before you make a reply.
> 
> Want u speak my language and than tell u that u are not good?

I literally have no idea what you just said.

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**Author:** ![Brazilian\_Jezus](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/brazilian_jezus/32/101412_2.png) [@Brazilian\_Jezus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Brazilian_Jezus)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/58 "2016-06-20T23:41:00Z")

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> > > > > [@SLAYER\_Of\_PIGS](#):
> > > > >
> > > > > Flag Quote ·
> > > > > 
> > > > > > [@Loqtrall](#):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Solid logic (not so solid quoting) - read my first sentence and completely ignore the rest of my argument. Those debating tactics.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes u are not gentle i dont spend my time with these kinds of people, im here for a good game for me for u and for all. This game is too far from reality and these are my opinions.
> > > > 
> > > > This game is too far from reality?
> > > > 
> > > > Battlefield hasn’t even been remotely realistic, in all it’s iterations, since the franchise started. Arguing for more realism isn’t going to get you anywhere, because the game doesn’t go for that aspect of gameplay at all, and never has.
> > > > 
> > > > It’s about balance - not portraying warfare in a way that matches reality.
> > > > 
> > > > > [@Sir-xer21](#):
> > > > >
> > > > > his aim isnt that good, he never goes for headshots. his accuracy is straight body shotting.
> > > > > 
> > > > > as for the english, he’s italian.
> > > > 
> > > > Hence the “You need to aim more for the head, or stay out of head-to-head gunfights” part.
> > > 
> > > I said too far, not its must be realistic
> > 
> > It’s a video game.
> > 
> > EVERY BF ever made has been “too far” from reality. Like I said - look back through the entire franchise, and you won’t find any title that was even REMOTELY realistic. Since your English isn’t too well, (though it has gotten a bit better throughout your responses), you should look up the adjective definition of “remotely” before you make a reply.
> 
> Want u speak my language and than tell u that u are not good?

I agree

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/59 "2016-06-20T23:50:00Z")

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Not sure where we go from here?

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/sniper-hates-and-kids-ruined-bf-series/102309/60 "2016-06-20T23:52:00Z")

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> [@Bertominus\_Rex](#):
>
> Wasn’t Bad Company 2 the easiest to snipe in?
> 
> The classic titles had fog, and if I remember right… no 1HK potential outside of headshots. Bad Company 2 had a significantly larger view distance, and 1hk potential to the upper body below 30 meters. Bf3 added in bullet drop, and it reduced the 1hk range making sniping harder.
> 
> I don’t see how BC2 was the ideal example of sniping.

BC2 had bullet drop too, though. BF3 made sniping harder because it had massively increased player movement speed and acceleration. BF3 also introduced scope glint.

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