Snipers ARE overpowered

Recon is the worst class imo.

Totally agree. That’s why I think sniping from home base is a strategy with zero effectiveness in any game mode and feel that bullets fired from spawn should not deal damage. I’d be all for a limit of X number of each class per team as other games have but then tons of players would be like “you can’t tell me I can’t play ___”
When I find teammates camping in spawn with a sniper I teabag for about 15 seconds hoping an enemy will see them and shoot us both, then pop smoke in their face and go cap a flag. No other solution until hardcore comes and you can teamkill them with a repair tool.

That would result in spawn traps being a death sentence.

raises hand I cant actually use the bolt action sniper rifles. For me, they arent overpowered and are beyond useless. I cant hit anything :stuck_out_tongue: I aim for the head, I miss. I aim above the head, I miss. I hit the body… then they turn around and kill me while Im trying to line up the next shot. When I play the recon class, I have to use the self loading rifles which are in almost every way worse than the assaults semi-automatic rifles so I can even start to kill someone. Something just feels wrong with the snipers in this game… in other games Ive played, Im actually good at shooting things with snipers. In Battlefield V, I just cant figure it out. I keep trying, I keep practicing, but I never seem to be able to hit something, especially when they are moving. Ill never figure out how everyone with a sniper insta-headshots me when I cant hit something stationary in front of me :stuck_out_tongue:

Agreed. Everything about recon has been dramatically nerfed since Bad Company 2. No C4 (or dynamite), no airstrike ability, flare function is completely useless now, etc. The recon class is only good for people who are satisfied with pinpoint precision headshots, and the radio beacon that most squad mates don’t even use anymore.

The headshot hitbox is the same size as the BF4 headshot hitbox.

Never mind, I see someone already addressed that misconception. I’m used to having to be the one to say it in all these anti recon threads lol.

Limit the number of actual snipers… that’s laughable. I’d just play easymode/assault from a distance with any of their semis. Near no recoil… no scope glint… accurate to 300m+… stupid fast round with little drop… gobs of ammo & health regen.

Go ahead.. limit the number of snipers.

Spawn traps are already a death sentence. Maybe loosing all your flags should mean you loose the game, might make more people ptfo and will definitely make a lot of people mad. But if you want to kill and not cap, play team deathmatch not conquest. My opinion, not a popular one I’m sure. I remember in Bad Company conquest if you lost all the flags you lost all your tickets in about 30 seconds no matter how many you had left.

Honestly I hate snipers because I think they’re selfish players in objective based game modes, which is only when I have too many on my team. But as much as I dislike the sniper class they certainly do not need a nerf..

I’d absolutely say this thread deserves a …git gud

I enjoy when people say this, for getting that the same number of people on thier team are also sniping. Also, all of the stats prove this wrong.

Snipers need more one shot capabilities besides headshots like upper torso for example. That’s the only nerf I could go with :slight_smile:

I know a lot of people now don’t like the ‘sweet spot’ thing from BF1, but I think that at close ranges (like 20m or so) you should be able to one-hit kill from 100 health anywhere on the torso, or at least upper chest. Might make aggressive plays with a sniper a bit more appealing, as currently you can only really push/get in close by yourself for maybe one or two kills before someone spots you, you get a body shot and whilst you’re pulling the bolt they just empty their gun into you. I’m not sure though, it could be a little OP?

I’m a bad sniper so can’t really judge but I don’t see the benefit of playing the K98 over the Selbstlader. I can double tap with the Selbstlader and it always takes longer to cycle with the K98.
I really expected more one shot kills with the K98.

You know at 1st I thought this thread was actually a joke… so I held off on commenting since I thought I would see I was just joking comment later on… but if you really think recon is OP compared to other classes you’re living in a fairyland. If it’s so OP use it and let me know how that works out for you. My God.

The bolt actions in this game were designed around having no auto health regeneration. That’s why their damage is so low. You’re expected to get a good number of one hit kills on players since they don’t automatically regenerate their health. That’s not reality unfortunately.

During the first alpha it was more like that. Nobody could carry bandages for healing except for medic. This meant there actually was a good number of players running around with less than full health.

Then the bandages were added that everyone could carry one of for self healing. At which point the low damage of bolt actions no longer made sense.

The damage of bolt actions was balanced around something that no longer exists. Everyone can self heal now.

For close range maps like Rotterdam, the Lee Enfield with iron sights and the ROF upgrade is a good bolt action to use, if you want to use a bolt action on those maps. You don’t have to zoom out of ADS to chamber the next round so you can shoot two pretty quickly if you miss the head or have to shoot fast bc you are being shot at. I still adjust my playstyle so I am not at the front of a pack of friendlies, I stick to the less conventional routes between flags and look for those stationary headshots all the time. Also no scope glint so you can be one with the ninja.

Bolt actions are probably the weakest weapons in this game as far as DPS, but that also makes them the most satisfying when you kill someone with them. Gotta account that headshots balance this though.

Leading a headshot on a moving target feels like a great accomplishment. I’m not sure 1 shot body shots should ever exist… because in the right hands that could be overpowered.

I am to a point now where if I don’t land a headshot, I can quickly cycle and fire off my next shot in succession before being spotted and burst down. It’s all about surprise, then positioning and out-thinking your opponent.

I think Recon is the hardest class to play but also the most rewarding.

On a side note I think all 3X scopes should be taken off the the other classes… I hate that you can turn machine guns and those Semi Autos into sniping machines… feels really off and not historically accurate (though I know it doesn’t always have to be, this feels weird though).

This must be mainly a PC thing as I have not encountered anywhere near this level of issue on PS4?

I enjoy the recon class, but the vast majority of my kills are within 30 meters with a 3x scope. The best use of the recon class is to get behind enemy lines (not behind your spawn area, which is useless). Use your spawn beacon, and tactically eliminate enemies from their rear objective effectively pining the opposing team between your squad and the rest of your team.

It’s amazing how much trouble people have finding spawn beacons if they even bother. Then you can solo distract 30% of the enemy team playing hit and run behind enemy lines. They will chase you, and you will continue to harass them with relative ease. I average 2.5 KD because people have no idea how this stupid “sniper” keeps popping up behind them and clipping them while they try to plink people from their rear base. Hell, I’d say at least 25% of my kills are from my side arm because there’s no reason to waste primary ammo on a camped sniper with blinders on to everything outside their scope.

Best gun is the ZH-29 since you can be aggressive, have 6 rounds you can fire without having to descope, and everything dies in two hits at any range.