# Snipers Favored Again

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 12, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290 "2017-12-12T04:43:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wontbuyurgames](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a87d85/32.png) [@wontbuyurgames](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/wontbuyurgames)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/1 "2017-12-12T04:43:00Z")

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New maps favoring snipers. Poor gameplay as a result.

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**Author:** ![USAFguy22](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/90ced4/32.png) [@USAFguy22](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/USAFguy22)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/2 "2017-12-12T04:48:00Z")

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Quality thread mate.

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**Author:** ![DankDope99](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e9a140/32.png) [@DankDope99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DankDope99)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/3 "2017-12-12T04:51:00Z")

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Are you one of those “remove the scout class” people?

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**Author:** ![astraussdc](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astraussdc](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/astraussdc)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/4 "2017-12-12T04:59:00Z")

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Although I do really enjoy BF1, definitely my favorite shooter this gen so far, I do think their biggest mistake was how much they favored snipers with the one-shot kill sweetspot and wide open maps. I do genuinely believe this probably lost them a lot of players as most people play Conquest where it’s most noticeable, and I’ve met very few people, casual or ‘serious’, who don’t hate dying to hill humping snipers. Nothing else, not tanks, not planes, not shotguns, nothing, produces quite as much salt on the mic.

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**Author:** ![wontbuyurgames](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a87d85/32.png) [@wontbuyurgames](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/wontbuyurgames)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/5 "2017-12-12T07:39:00Z")

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Time to put the game to rest again.

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**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 8:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/6 "2017-12-12T08:13:00Z")

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Still getting killed by snipers after the update?..

Damn updates, always something broke after it.  
😃

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**Author:** ![SuperReds1892](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/superreds1892/32/103648_2.png) [@SuperReds1892](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SuperReds1892)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 8:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/7 "2017-12-12T08:17:00Z")

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Take yourself to the shop/store and buy a great big box of tissues, the way your going id say you’ll need them.

Second cry thread I’ve read from you today, just uninstall and leave it alone.

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**Author:** ![Granathar](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/edb3f5/32.png) [@Granathar](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Granathar)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 8:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/8 "2017-12-12T08:46:00Z")

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This is rant thread, I get it. But actually OP kinda has a point. I play sniper from time to time, because I like it - but I’m rather mobile-PTFO kind of sniper than hillhumper. Seriously, ANOTHER map that is made for snipers. Yesterday I did like 70/10 as Scout while defending, it was even easier than on TSAR maps. Attackers barely can snipe back, because they need to do some climbing before they see enemy - while defending snipers are already waiting for them to come.

I cannot see myself playing as something else than Medic or Scout on Cape Helles actually, because it barely makes sense. This map is MADE FOR SNIPERS. Another map MADE FOR SNIPERS. 2/3 maps in this game are MADE FOR SNIPERS. If you have good aim and reaction then Scout is absolutely optimal class, because you shred people with Frommer Stop (I know, it’s not the Hellriegel or Automatico level of TTK, but still good enough most of the times) at close distance and blow their heads on medium and even long distance.

Right now my victims can’t even ADAD and slide away, they are walking frags for snipers - because all the other TTK changes are not yet in production. And still, even if they were - topography of Cape Helles is purely sniper-centric. If you have Marksman variant to avoid scope glint (and you can actually snipe with x4 scope, I actually prefer x6 most of the times) - you are invisible and nearly impossible to kill. Just hide inside some bush on the hill and you can farm poor ANZACs for whole game.

This map is just unbalanced unfortunately. Artillery barrage from the sea is not heavy enough, to actually push defenders back IMO. First sector is super pain in the ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ to capture. Second is a little bit better, but third has damn Monte Crappa-like bunker.

I thought that TSAR maps like Volga or Galicia were super sniper-centric. And they actually were. But they are still nowhere near Cape Helles IMO.

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**Author:** ![West\_london\_fc](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/e36b37/32.png) [@West\_london\_fc](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/West_london_fc)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 11:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/9 "2017-12-12T11:21:00Z")

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I played conquest on both maps and I love them so far. i mostly play assault, medic and support and these maps have plenty of trenches to navigate hill humpers. This is coming from a guy who hated TSAR (except for Bruslov) so if you are poking your head out from the hills than you deserve to get sniped.

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**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 11:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/10 "2017-12-12T11:23:00Z")

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Another crythread.

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**Author:** ![Granathar](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/edb3f5/32.png) [@Granathar](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Granathar)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 11:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/11 "2017-12-12T11:45:00Z")

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> [@TEKNOCODE](#):
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> Another crythread.

Another apologist playing only sniper? Seriously you don’t notice that nearly every map is snipercentric? I’m killed or at least wounded by snipers ALL-THE-TIME, unless I play sniper too. This is way too much. I get it that there may be SOME maps that are good for sniping, but right now generally speaking nearly every DLC map is another birthday gift for snipers. And many base maps are like “play sniper or have negative KD”, for example Sinai.

You come to every single thread pointing this only to make countercrying. Unfortunately, these crythreads have the point - BF1 is feeding snipers since it was released and every DLC only makes snipers even more favoured. And while I play sniper a lot - I still think that this game is WAY too generous for snipers, because sometimes I feel FORCED to play sniper again or to leave the game.

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**Author:** ![olavafar](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/olavafar/32/101046_2.png) [@olavafar](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/olavafar)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 11:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/12 "2017-12-12T11:58:00Z")

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…and yet I still got whined at for using the shotgun. Actually, I think it is just like the Russian DLC maps. It takes some time to learn the routes that are ‘sniper safe’ then one can play any class and any weapon.

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**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/13 "2017-12-12T11:59:00Z")

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> [@Granathar](#):
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> > [@TEKNOCODE](#):
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> > Another crythread.
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> Another apologist playing only sniper? Seriously you don’t notice that nearly every map is snipercentric? I’m killed or at least wounded by snipers ALL-THE-TIME, unless I play sniper too. This is way too much. I get it that there may be SOME maps that are good for sniping, but right now generally speaking nearly every DLC map is another birthday gift for snipers. And many base maps are like “play sniper or have negative KD”, for example Sinai.
> 
> You come to every single thread pointing this only to make countercrying. Unfortunately, these crythreads have the point - BF1 is feeding snipers since it was released and every DLC only makes snipers even more favoured. And while I play sniper a lot - I still think that this game is WAY too generous for snipers, because sometimes I feel FORCED to play sniper again or to leave the game.

Strange tho.. i have played only a few maps so far, but medics seem to be more populated…

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**Author:** ![Thumper2671](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thumper2671/32/103833_2.png) [@Thumper2671](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Thumper2671)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 12:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/14 "2017-12-12T12:04:00Z")

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Wasn’t OP one of the guys who said he’d stopped playing the game? Well, anyway OP, I was killed by more assaults and medics than snipers all today, You must be running out in the open and not paying attention to all the cover around you…

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**Author:** ![Granathar](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/edb3f5/32.png) [@Granathar](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Granathar)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 12:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/15 "2017-12-12T12:06:00Z")

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> [@IllIllIII](#):
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> > [@Granathar](#):
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> > > [@TEKNOCODE](#):
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> > > Another crythread.
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> > Another apologist playing only sniper? Seriously you don’t notice that nearly every map is snipercentric? I’m killed or at least wounded by snipers ALL-THE-TIME, unless I play sniper too. This is way too much. I get it that there may be SOME maps that are good for sniping, but right now generally speaking nearly every DLC map is another birthday gift for snipers. And many base maps are like “play sniper or have negative KD”, for example Sinai.
> > 
> > You come to every single thread pointing this only to make countercrying. Unfortunately, these crythreads have the point - BF1 is feeding snipers since it was released and every DLC only makes snipers even more favoured. And while I play sniper a lot - I still think that this game is WAY too generous for snipers, because sometimes I feel FORCED to play sniper again or to leave the game.
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> Strange tho.. i have played only a few maps so far, but medics seem to be more populated…

Probably because of new rifle. It’s pretty nice. Scout don’t really have anything worth attention.

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**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 12:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/16 "2017-12-12T12:10:00Z")

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> [@Granathar](#):
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> > [@TEKNOCODE](#):
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> > Another crythread.
> 
> Another apologist playing only sniper? Seriously you don’t notice that nearly every map is snipercentric? I’m killed or at least wounded by snipers ALL-THE-TIME, unless I play sniper too. This is way too much. I get it that there may be SOME maps that are good for sniping, but right now generally speaking nearly every DLC map is another birthday gift for snipers. And many base maps are like “play sniper or have negative KD”, for example Sinai.
> 
> You come to every single thread pointing this only to make countercrying. Unfortunately, these crythreads have the point - BF1 is feeding snipers since it was released and every DLC only makes snipers even more favoured. And while I play sniper a lot - I still think that this game is WAY too generous for snipers, because sometimes I feel FORCED to play sniper again or to leave the game.

Instead of insinuating, please look at my stats. I am just not a cryhard and I can deal with scouts (the class is called scout, btw).

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**Author:** ![Ram1c](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/97f17d/32.png) [@Ram1c](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ram1c)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/17 "2017-12-12T12:36:00Z")

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Lmfao what a joke, I have maybe died by a sniper like four times on the new maps and I was playing all day yesterday. I suggest you change your tactics, Git gud, and learn to use a trench line and cover. I really don’t understand why some people play video games if it’s that hard for them lol.

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**Author:** ![Granathar](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/edb3f5/32.png) [@Granathar](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Granathar)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/18 "2017-12-12T12:47:00Z")

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> [@TEKNOCODE](#):
>
> > [@Granathar](#):
> >
> > > [@TEKNOCODE](#):
> > >
> > > Another crythread.
> > 
> > Another apologist playing only sniper? Seriously you don’t notice that nearly every map is snipercentric? I’m killed or at least wounded by snipers ALL-THE-TIME, unless I play sniper too. This is way too much. I get it that there may be SOME maps that are good for sniping, but right now generally speaking nearly every DLC map is another birthday gift for snipers. And many base maps are like “play sniper or have negative KD”, for example Sinai.
> > 
> > You come to every single thread pointing this only to make countercrying. Unfortunately, these crythreads have the point - BF1 is feeding snipers since it was released and every DLC only makes snipers even more favoured. And while I play sniper a lot - I still think that this game is WAY too generous for snipers, because sometimes I feel FORCED to play sniper again or to leave the game.
> 
> Instead of insinuating, please look at my stats. I am just not a cryhard and I can deal with scouts (the class is called scout, btw).

It’s console, not PC. On PC we all use mouse and that makes bolt-action rifle a weapon of mass destruction. On PC snipers actually hit their targets and are really dangerous. And if you encounter a guy with gaming mouse and FPS games veteran - you can only pray that he will score bodyshot and not headshot right away. Because he will hit you, you can only wonder if he will do this once or twice.

Trust me, if you would have guys on consoles that are at least as good as I am (1.85 KPM, top 2% as Scout, on PC also - and there are MANY better players) you would write crythreads yourself. If you think that you would be any danger with LMG for experienced Scout player - you are deeply mistaken. Your head would blow like watermelon before suppression triggers. Difference between PC and consoles in terms of player skill is huge. I know if it’s PC or console after like 20 seconds of watching video on youtube. I just count time, if normally I would be dead in such situation like 4 times already and this youtuber is still standing - he is playing on console and people have problems with aiming.

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**Author:** ![GRIZZ11283](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/grizz11283/32/102128_2.png) [@GRIZZ11283](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GRIZZ11283)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/19 "2017-12-12T12:47:00Z")

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I’ve played both and dont seem to be seeing all these snipers you speak of, strange.

Use the trenches to move about and everything is fine.

Sounds like player issues, not map issues.

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**Author:** ![Ram1c](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/97f17d/32.png) [@Ram1c](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ram1c)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 12:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/snipers-favored-again/103290/20 "2017-12-12T12:50:00Z")

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Mustard race.

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