# So what are the "experimental" weapons the dice devs were talking about on the release? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 9, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022 "2016-05-09T17:50:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MrCow538](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrcow538/32/102877_2.png) [@MrCow538](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCow538)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/1 "2016-05-09T17:50:00Z")
i’m so excited for this game, even so much i made a little video about what the “experimental” weapons might be! [![Video: Battlefield 1 Possible Experimental Weapons? [WW1]](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/d/2/d2a452ce90e765110d78372b23c419c4a8d06b98.jpeg "Battlefield 1 Possible Experimental Weapons? [WW1]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG9HirqdS00) what do you guys think those weapons/tools/vehicles are? 😄 i’m sooo hoping for that quadricycle with the maxim gun on it, that would be soo amazing! regards, Cow ---
**Author:** ![CmdrVOODOO](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/cmdrvoodoo/32/101534_2.png) [@CmdrVOODOO](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CmdrVOODOO)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/2 "2016-05-09T17:59:00Z")
This is what I’ve been able to find for advanced weapons… [![Video: Advanced Weapons of WW1 (1914-1918)](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/1/f/1fb079c4b4a289b663ed4694a62c5543aac8ce63.jpeg "Advanced Weapons of WW1 (1914-1918)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbVZ20-4rAU) Also for attachments, the reflex sight was invented 14 years before WW1. "In 1900 Grubb invented the reflector or “reflex” sight, a non-magnifying optical sight that uses a collimator to allow the viewer looking through the sight to see an illuminated image of a reticle or other pattern in front of them that stays in alignment with the device the sight is attached to (parallax free). This type of sight has come to be used on all kinds of weapons from small firearms to fighter aircraft. It is also at the heart of all modern head-up displays. During the First World War the Grubb factory was in demand for the production of telescopic gun-sights and during this time he was credited with perfecting a periscope design for Royal Navy submarines." Source: [Howard Grubb - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Grubb) ---
**Author:** ![MrCow538](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrcow538/32/102877_2.png) [@MrCow538](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCow538)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/3 "2016-05-09T18:23:00Z")
> [@CmdrVOODOO](#): > > This is what I’ve been able to find for advanced weapons… > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbVZ20-4rAU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbVZ20-4rAU) > > Also for attachments, the reflex sight was invented 14 years before WW1. > > "In 1900 Grubb invented the reflector or “reflex” sight, a non-magnifying optical sight that uses a collimator to allow the viewer looking through the sight to see an illuminated image of a reticle or other pattern in front of them that stays in alignment with the device the sight is attached to (parallax free). > > This type of sight has come to be used on all kinds of weapons from small firearms to fighter aircraft. It is also at the heart of all modern head-up displays. During the First World War the Grubb factory was in demand for the production of telescopic gun-sights and during this time he was credited with perfecting a periscope design for Royal Navy submarines." > > Source: [Howard Grubb - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Grubb) wow! good find! we didn’t really see any optics beside the one on the sniper! im 90% certain this will be in the game! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CmdrVOODOO](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/cmdrvoodoo/32/101534_2.png) [@CmdrVOODOO](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CmdrVOODOO)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/4 "2016-05-09T18:30:00Z")
> [@MrCow538](#): > > > [@CmdrVOODOO](#): > > > > This is what I’ve been able to find for advanced weapons… > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbVZ20-4rAU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbVZ20-4rAU) > > > > Also for attachments, the reflex sight was invented 14 years before WW1. > > > > "In 1900 Grubb invented the reflector or “reflex” sight, a non-magnifying optical sight that uses a collimator to allow the viewer looking through the sight to see an illuminated image of a reticle or other pattern in front of them that stays in alignment with the device the sight is attached to (parallax free). > > > > This type of sight has come to be used on all kinds of weapons from small firearms to fighter aircraft. It is also at the heart of all modern head-up displays. During the First World War the Grubb factory was in demand for the production of telescopic gun-sights and during this time he was credited with perfecting a periscope design for Royal Navy submarines." > > > > Source: [Howard Grubb - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Grubb) > > wow! good find! we didn’t really see any optics beside the one on the sniper! im 90% certain this will be in the game! 😃 I started a separate thread about the optics. Here: [WW1 1x Optics - yes, the reflex sight was actually invented in 1900 by Howard Grubb](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ww1-1x-optics-yes-the-reflex-sight-was-actually-invented-in-1900-by-howard-grubb/101023) ---
**Author:** ![MrCow538](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrcow538/32/102877_2.png) [@MrCow538](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCow538)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/5 "2016-05-09T20:00:00Z")
> [@CmdrVOODOO](#): > > > [@MrCow538](#): > > > > > [@CmdrVOODOO](#): > > > > > > This is what I’ve been able to find for advanced weapons… > > > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbVZ20-4rAU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbVZ20-4rAU) > > > > > > Also for attachments, the reflex sight was invented 14 years before WW1. > > > > > > "In 1900 Grubb invented the reflector or “reflex” sight, a non-magnifying optical sight that uses a collimator to allow the viewer looking through the sight to see an illuminated image of a reticle or other pattern in front of them that stays in alignment with the device the sight is attached to (parallax free). > > > > > > This type of sight has come to be used on all kinds of weapons from small firearms to fighter aircraft. It is also at the heart of all modern head-up displays. During the First World War the Grubb factory was in demand for the production of telescopic gun-sights and during this time he was credited with perfecting a periscope design for Royal Navy submarines." > > > > > > Source: [Howard Grubb - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Grubb) > > > > wow! good find! we didn’t really see any optics beside the one on the sniper! im 90% certain this will be in the game! 😃 > > I started a separate thread about the optics. > > Here: [WW1 1x Optics - yes, the reflex sight was actually invented in 1900 by Howard Grubb](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ww1-1x-optics-yes-the-reflex-sight-was-actually-invented-in-1900-by-howard-grubb/101023) i saw that! thanks for linking me! 🙂 we might actually give the devs some last minute ideas here! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![afnav130](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@afnav130](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/afnav130)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/6 "2016-05-09T23:25:00Z")
The experimental weapons will be weapons that everyone starts to use, thereby nullifying any authenticity to WW1. Also because 12 year olds. ---
**Author:** ![MrCow538](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrcow538/32/102877_2.png) [@MrCow538](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCow538)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 12:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/7 "2016-05-10T12:27:00Z")
> [@afnav130](#): > > The experimental weapons will be weapons that everyone starts to use, thereby nullifying any authenticity to WW1. > > Also because 12 year olds. explain please? since the game will be balanced these experimental weapons will not be the guns everyone uses. its just something to add more weapons to the game ---
**Author:** ![afnav130](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@afnav130](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/afnav130)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 12:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/8 "2016-05-10T12:50:00Z")
> [@MrCow538](#): > > > [@afnav130](#): > > > > The experimental weapons will be weapons that everyone starts to use, thereby nullifying any authenticity to WW1. > > > > Also because 12 year olds. > > explain please? since the game will be balanced these experimental weapons will not be the guns everyone uses. its just something to add more weapons to the game Experimental weapons is a euphemism for easier to use guns (re: exciting) that have no real place in a WW1 game. Why isn’t there a M1 Garand in BF4? Or an Enfield? Or a Mauser? How about guns that t shoot around corners? Or laser weapons? Because they don’t fit the era the game is set in. The “regular guns” used by normal troops on both sides would be good enough for the gameplay but not good enough for the 12 year olds. ---
**Author:** ![schallsj](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/schallsj/32/103378_2.png) [@schallsj](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/schallsj)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/9 "2016-05-10T13:00:00Z")
I have to agree with afnav. Any experimental weapons are going to become the standard or really just any non-bolt action weapon that has a decent amount of range. I personally can’t wait for the bolt action rifles, especially when you match up CQ with someone carrying the same. In COD: United Offensive (I never played the early BF games) you had such a limited choice in weapons for the US, Russians, English, and Germans. I just hope they don’t add too much just for the sake of making the weapons list longer that render other weapons useless. ---
**Author:** ![Bohunk\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bohunk_l/32/101385_2.png) [@Bohunk\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bohunk_l)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 1:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/10 "2016-05-10T13:19:00Z")
I imagine there will be two classes utilizing rifles (scout and either medic or assault) and the other two will probably have smgs and mgs. Shotguns will probably be all kit “Experimental weapons” are probably weapons that existed at the time by where not used heavily in the war or where developed in the closing phases ---
**Author:** ![R3cK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@R3cK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/R3cK)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/11 "2016-05-10T13:35:00Z")
SMG ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/9/7/97c4b9e7e67d5b0aa1dfb6fd2d94e349a0b7cc2a.jpeg) smg [http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/WWI/Machine Guns/Villar Perosa Gun/DSCN0174.jpe](http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/WWI/Machine%20Guns/Villar%20Perosa%20Gun/DSCN0174.jpe) smg ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/7/2/721856c3b915872dfddebd764899ce78d7828134.jpeg) smg ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/0/f/0f269ef682b929776a048572c73d8f2116557981.jpeg) smg [![Video: Mystery WW1 German Submachine Gun](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/d/a/daadf17f425787bc3e521f7f76d3938ca09eefa9.jpeg "Mystery WW1 German Submachine Gun") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfLpXSbHw1Q) AR ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/2/c/2c62e300fae341db9bb644e36d19bea4254ebc6c.jpeg) frisbee nade ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/c/3/c34e336eb79044186d281ebb2a7b2e3a2c180143.jpeg) camper hax :q selfloading pistol worst MG ever according to the internet btw. i have no idea why my posts are filled with paragraphes ---
**Author:** ![MrCow538](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrcow538/32/102877_2.png) [@MrCow538](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCow538)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/12 "2016-05-11T00:11:00Z")
> [@schallsj](#): > > I have to agree with afnav. Any experimental weapons are going to become the standard or really just any non-bolt action weapon that has a decent amount of range. I personally can’t wait for the bolt action rifles, especially when you match up CQ with someone carrying the same. In COD: United Offensive (I never played the early BF games) you had such a limited choice in weapons for the US, Russians, English, and Germans. I just hope they don’t add too much just for the sake of making the weapons list longer that render other weapons useless. experimental weapons doesnt mean overpower. experimental weapons is also a new design, like the periscope rifle. i agree though that we should not have those over the top weapons ---
**Author:** ![MrCow538](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrcow538/32/102877_2.png) [@MrCow538](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCow538)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/13 "2016-05-11T00:13:00Z")
> [@R3cK](#): > > SMG > > ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/9/7/97c4b9e7e67d5b0aa1dfb6fd2d94e349a0b7cc2a.jpeg) > > smg > > [http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/WWI/Machine Guns/Villar Perosa Gun/DSCN0174.jpe](http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/WWI/Machine%20Guns/Villar%20Perosa%20Gun/DSCN0174.jpe) > smg > > ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/7/2/721856c3b915872dfddebd764899ce78d7828134.jpeg) > > smg > > ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/0/f/0f269ef682b929776a048572c73d8f2116557981.jpeg) > > smg > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfLpXSbHw1Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfLpXSbHw1Q) > > AR > > ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/2/c/2c62e300fae341db9bb644e36d19bea4254ebc6c.jpeg) > > frisbee nade > > ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/c/3/c34e336eb79044186d281ebb2a7b2e3a2c180143.jpeg) > > camper hax :q > > selfloading pistol > > worst MG ever according to the internet > > btw. i have no idea why my posts are filled with paragraphes WOW! amazing finds there! i love that disc nade! maybe that could work as anti tank mine? and the camper hax one is the periscope rifle! i love how they made a gun that keeps the gunner save while being able to counter hostile snipers! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NixonTooStronk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/nixontoostronk/32/102962_2.png) [@NixonTooStronk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NixonTooStronk)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/14 "2016-05-11T04:12:00Z")
[Weapons of WW1](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/weapons-of-ww1/100971) I have list for you right here, Most of these are experimental ---
**Author:** ![R3cK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@R3cK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/R3cK)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 12:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/15 "2016-05-11T12:54:00Z")
> [@MrCow538](#): > > WOW! amazing finds there! i love that disc nade! maybe that could work as anti tank mine? and the camper hax one is the periscope rifle! i love how they made a gun that keeps the gunner save while being able to counter hostile snipers! 🙂 thx 🙂 im really excited about the prototypes the devs found in the archives. this is what i found only after 15min google. so there might be some really cool weapons for us ---
**Author:** ![redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/redzuluzulu0096)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 3:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/16 "2016-05-11T15:04:00Z")
I love the 12 year old comments. I’m 34 and I’d love to use some experimental WWI era gadgets in MP. As long as the campaign doesn’t have any anachronistic or unlikely weaponry/gadgets in it I’m happy. I’m fine with MP having some experimental gadgetry on certain maps. (maybe a gyrocopter on 1 or 2 maps is fine) ---
**Author:** ![forthecandy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/3ec8ea/32.png) [@forthecandy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/forthecandy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/17 "2016-05-11T17:46:00Z")
All gyrocopters were developed after the conflict ---
**Author:** ![redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/redzuluzulu0096)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/18 "2016-05-11T17:51:00Z")
I > [@forthecandy](#): > > All gyrocopters were developed after the conflict I know Helis weren’t even in WW2 until the later years and they were only for search and rescue, from what I remember. ---
**Author:** ![NatsuTerran](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@NatsuTerran](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NatsuTerran)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/19 "2016-05-11T20:28:00Z")
It’s not the idea that experimental weapons will be strictly better. It’s the idea that these weapons will likely be automatics. And automatics are always naturally gravitated to by the majority of players because they are easier to use. Subsequently, the game loses its seriousness and authenticity because the WW1 soldier proportions are incorrect. It’s the same reason I hate CoD WaW so much: Everyone uses automatics in WW2. Sure, you can do amazingly well with a Gewehr or Mosin Nagant, but that doesn’t make the game _feel_ like WW2 because every single other player is running around with MP40’s, Thompsons, and various LMG’s. ---
**Author:** ![A\_warped\_mind](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/a_warped_mind/32/101124_2.png) [@A\_warped\_mind](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/A_warped_mind)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 11:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022/20 "2016-05-11T23:55:00Z")
Here is a vid of potential weapons that were actually used in the first world war including several Assault rifles and an Auto shotgun 🙂 [![Video: CRAZY WW1 GUNS Battlefield 1 May Have! (Little Known World War 1 Weapons!)](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/9/e/9e0fa7edd6fc0d433ebcf003e0dde802f88654da.jpeg "CRAZY WW1 GUNS Battlefield 1 May Have! (Little Known World War 1 Weapons!)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W441RGxQ49A) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-what-are-the-experimental-weapons-the-dice-devs-were-talking-about-on-the-release/101022.md?page=2)