# So, where's the shotgun hate? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 12, 2019, 9:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291 "2019-09-12T09:52:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M_Rat13)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 9:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/1 "2019-09-12T09:52:00Z")
Given how much people complain about being one shot by BA rifles and AT rifles, why is there not more hate for shotguns? They can also one shot people. Not saying personally I hate shotguns, in fact, they are my favourite weapon class, and probably the one I’m best at, but given the hate towards one shots, it seems inconsistent I hear very little hate for shotguns. So, why is that? ---
**Author:** ![zasers](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zasers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zasers)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 10:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/2 "2019-09-12T10:08:00Z")
Activate your chat ingame and you will see the hate. shotgun is fun to play… sometimes ---
**Author:** ![Godmodegta](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/godmodegta/32/102082_2.png) [@Godmodegta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Godmodegta)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 10:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/3 "2019-09-12T10:11:00Z")
I think there plenty hate for shotgun, It just old topic, but there not useful long range, but when it come too close quarter combat there nasty, worse one are the one camp in tree’s or one camp inside building like in Rotterdam, shotgun won’t be as popular as Mg-42 , 200 mag and insane fire rate and controllable recoil that can fire long range and close range. ---
**Author:** ![ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ninjapenquinuk)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 10:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/4 "2019-09-12T10:12:00Z")
I rarely come across people with shotguns, at least not killed by them anyway. Occasionally i will have a round where someone will nail me 3 or 4 times with a shotgun, but they are so rare as to not bother me. I personally think Shotguns, the OHK variety anyway, just shouldnt be in FPS games. They arent needed and just cause balance/inconsistency arguments. ---
**Author:** ![M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M_Rat13)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 10:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/5 "2019-09-12T10:17:00Z")
> [@ninjapenquinuk](#): > > I rarely come across people with shotguns, at least not killed by them anyway. Occasionally i will have a round where someone will nail me 3 or 4 times with a shotgun, but they are so rare as to not bother me. I personally think Shotguns, the OHK variety anyway, just shouldnt be in FPS games. They arent needed and just cause balance/inconsistency arguments. So they don’t bother you, but you don’t want them in game? And a shotgun that doesn’t one shot might as well not exist in game, look at the 12g in BF1. I find hatred of one shot hypocritical anyway, because fast TTK might as well be a one shot, but people love fast TTK. ---
**Author:** ![Godmodegta](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/godmodegta/32/102082_2.png) [@Godmodegta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Godmodegta)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 10:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/6 "2019-09-12T10:33:00Z")
I’ma be honest, shotgun do annoy me, but people I seen use shotgun, are always moving and playing the objected, and I like that a lot, while mmg ideal is too trap enemy and keep them at bay, but a shotgun only has limited shot. ---
**Author:** ![ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ninjapenquinuk)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/7 "2019-09-12T11:00:00Z")
> [@M\_Rat13](#): > > > [@ninjapenquinuk](#): > > > > I rarely come across people with shotguns, at least not killed by them anyway. Occasionally i will have a round where someone will nail me 3 or 4 times with a shotgun, but they are so rare as to not bother me. I personally think Shotguns, the OHK variety anyway, just shouldnt be in FPS games. They arent needed and just cause balance/inconsistency arguments. > > So they don’t bother you, but you don’t want them in game? And a shotgun that doesn’t one shot might as well not exist in game, look at the 12g in BF1. I find hatred of one shot hypocritical anyway, because fast TTK might as well be a one shot, but people love fast TTK. You dont have to hate something to think it shouldnt be in game for one reason or another. You are right that if they didnt have OHK then they would be useless with the low TTK as shotgun users, as with other classes are probably a lot of the time melted before they can return fire. ---
**Author:** ![Jeffmaxs6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@Jeffmaxs6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jeffmaxs6)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/8 "2019-09-12T11:24:00Z")
You really want to know? It’s a noob gun, noob move, so there’s more of an understanding, then hate. hehe. ---
**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/9 "2019-09-12T11:58:00Z")
My guess it’s a mix of them not being used in great numbers and that the 1HK is often inconsistent. Maybe also that at least someone with a shotgun is moving around rather than lying prone. ---
**Author:** ![zenn\_nme](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/ed655f/32.png) [@zenn\_nme](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zenn_nme)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 12:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/10 "2019-09-12T12:03:00Z")
Not a lot of players running around with Shotguns 'cause it’s not in the Assault class is my take, so less hate for it. ---
**Author:** ![llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/llphantom_limbll/32/102656_2.png) [@llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/llPhantom_Limbll)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/11 "2019-09-12T13:01:00Z")
Why did you create such thread? Want more whining and drama for no reason? Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M_Rat13)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/12 "2019-09-12T13:03:00Z")
> [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#): > > Why did you create such thread? Want more whining and drama for no reason? Seriously. I want consistency from people. I know, it’s a big ask. ---
**Author:** ![mrtwotimes](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrtwotimes/32/102892_2.png) [@mrtwotimes](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mrtwotimes)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/13 "2019-09-12T13:06:00Z")
I miss my BF1 Model 10-A ---
**Author:** ![VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/ce7236/32.png) [@VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VincentNZ)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/14 "2019-09-12T13:11:00Z")
> [@M\_Rat13](#): > > Given how much people complain about being one shot by BA rifles and AT rifles, why is there not more hate for shotguns? They can also one shot people. Not saying personally I hate shotguns, in fact, they are my favourite weapon class, and probably the one I’m best at, but given the hate towards one shots, it seems inconsistent I hear very little hate for shotguns. So, why is that? Because the OHK range of shotguns is 10-20ish metres, while OHL ranges of AT rifles is 100m and that of BAs is infinite, although people rarely complain about them either. ---
**Author:** ![M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M_Rat13)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/15 "2019-09-12T13:34:00Z")
> [@VincentNZ](#): > > > [@M\_Rat13](#): > > > > Given how much people complain about being one shot by BA rifles and AT rifles, why is there not more hate for shotguns? They can also one shot people. Not saying personally I hate shotguns, in fact, they are my favourite weapon class, and probably the one I’m best at, but given the hate towards one shots, it seems inconsistent I hear very little hate for shotguns. So, why is that? > > Because the OHK range of shotguns is 10-20ish metres, while OHL ranges of AT rifles is 100m and that of BAs is infinite, although people rarely complain about them either. Well, people complain about bush snipers, and did so before the AT rifle introduction, so I presume they meant the BA rifles. ---
**Author:** ![Sjangsung](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sjangsung/32/103503_2.png) [@Sjangsung](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sjangsung)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/16 "2019-09-12T13:36:00Z")
Always have hated shotguns :\* ---
**Author:** ![Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Matty101yttam)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/17 "2019-09-12T14:05:00Z")
The hate is for 1 shot kill weapons, snipers get the same but when the damage keeps getting rolled like it does in this game even smgs feel like they are 1 shot killing so the shotguns don’t stand out as much. ---
**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/18 "2019-09-12T14:11:00Z")
There’s often whining in the in game chat but shotguns would be useless if they couldn’t one shot at close range. If they couldn’t they’d just be even worse bolt action rifles. ---
**Author:** ![ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ragnarok013/32/103211_2.png) [@ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ragnarok013)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/19 "2019-09-12T15:06:00Z")
There’s plenty of shotgun hate, particularly against the Drilling however since they are limited to a single class they aren’t as problematic as they were in previous entries. ---
**Author:** ![jroggs](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jroggs/32/106829_2.png) [@jroggs](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jroggs)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291/20 "2019-09-12T20:35:00Z")
It’s not what the weapon is, it’s how that enemy is using it. People hate AT rifles because they’re often employed by campers who hide outside objectives. Shotguns, on the other hands, are generally used by aggressive, mobile players who make the game exciting and fun. Shotguns are also fairly rare due to BFV’s map design. We’ll see if Underground changes that paradigm. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/so-wheres-the-shotgun-hate/107291.md?page=2)