# Soviet weapons **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 15, 2018, 7:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826 "2018-10-15T07:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TFBisquit)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/21 "2018-10-16T22:54:00Z")
Heheh, sovjet tanks were good because of mass production and easy to manufacture. All the (cod?) famous weapons came later in the war. Of which infamous could be said also. But having a ppsh as an option looks fun to me all the same. ---
**Author:** ![IIIIIFELIXIIIIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/iiiiifelixiiiiii/32/106766_2.png) [@IIIIIFELIXIIIIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IIIIIFELIXIIIIII)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 11:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/22 "2018-10-22T11:56:00Z")
I am also outraged that in a single company will not be a story about the red army and will not be able to play for the Soviet soldiers. But you can play for the Germans, who brought so much evil and which killed millions of innocent people. Is this a revision of history? ---
**Author:** ![Luggerix](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Luggerix](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Luggerix)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 12:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/23 "2018-10-22T12:52:00Z")
> [@CuJIA\_B\_PRAVDE](#): > > I am also outraged that in a single company will not be a story about the red army and will not be able to play for the Soviet soldiers. But you can play for the Germans, who brought so much evil and which killed millions of innocent people. Is this a revision of history? You ask why you can play as Germany? Then I have to ask: Why you want to play as Soviet Union, which brought so much evil and killed millions of innocent people? It was a bloody war, neither side was innocent. So it would be nice to have a War Story for every faction. ---
**Author:** ![Big-B05S](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/big-b05s/32/106502_2.png) [@Big-B05S](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Big-B05S)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/24 "2018-10-22T15:23:00Z")
> [@Noromiz](#): > > When the PPSh-41 with a good ol drum mag finally arrives, then the Medic will be fun to play ^^ Would be pretty damn wrong if the PPSH had the very same drum mag they copied off the KP-31 while the KP-31 would be left without. ---
**Author:** ![MrCrecer13](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrcrecer13/32/106977_2.png) [@MrCrecer13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCrecer13)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/25 "2018-10-22T15:40:00Z")
> [@Big-B05S](#): > > > [@Noromiz](#): > > > > When the PPSh-41 with a good ol drum mag finally arrives, then the Medic will be fun to play ^^ > > Would be pretty damn wrong if the PPSH had the very same drum mag they copied off the KP-31 while the KP-31 would be left without. I think PPSH-41 will be like Suomi - it will start with a 35-box magazine and 71 cartridge drum magazine after the upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![robmcewen](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/robmcewen/32/102169_2.png) [@robmcewen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/robmcewen)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/26 "2018-10-22T15:50:00Z")
The U..R will come to the game, fingers crossed they won’t be all be snow maps, maybe Kursk. Personally I think it’s very odd on DICE’s part that the french army won’t make a appearance at launch. ---
**Author:** ![Big-B05S](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/big-b05s/32/106502_2.png) [@Big-B05S](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Big-B05S)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/27 "2018-10-22T15:54:00Z")
> [@MrCrecer13](#): > > I think PPSH-41 will be like Suomi - it will start with a 35-box magazine and 71 cartridge drum magazine after the upgrade. The Suomi starts with a (less common) 20 round mag and upgrades to the 50 round “coffin” mag and is completely missing its iconic drum mag. Like I said it would be an utter travesty if the PPSH got the 70 round drum that they copied off the KP-31. ---
**Author:** ![Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sixclicks/32/103500_2.png) [@Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sixclicks)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/28 "2018-10-23T02:01:00Z")
I’m sure they’ll all be added relatively soon after launch. There were some guns in the single player that didn’t make the multiplayer list either. Such as the Chauchat. ---
**Author:** ![IIIIIFELIXIIIIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/iiiiifelixiiiiii/32/106766_2.png) [@IIIIIFELIXIIIIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IIIIIFELIXIIIIII)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/29 "2018-10-23T07:22:00Z")
> [@Luggerix](#): > > You ask why you can play as Germany? Then I have to ask: Why you want to play as Soviet Union, which brought so much evil and killed millions of innocent people? It was a bloody war, neither side was innocent. So it would be nice to have a War Story for every faction. Only the ignorant can compare the USSR and Germany. The USSR liberated the world from the plague of the 20th century-N\_a\_z\_i\_s\_m. The USSR destroyed 75% of the AXIS ’ military power. 27 million Soviet citizens died in that war, with military losses comparable to Germany.(Britain and the United States lost a total of 400 thousand), the Soviet Union lost millions of innocent civilians, women, elderly and children. In the USSR, hundreds of cities and thousands of villages were completely destroyed and turned to dust, millions of people were taken into slavery in Germany, millions of civilians were killed only on the grounds that they were not Aryans. And in the game instead of the red army in a single company represented by the Germans. Where is the logic? Although about the logic of the “Dice” there are a lot of jokes. ---
**Author:** ![Big-B05S](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/big-b05s/32/106502_2.png) [@Big-B05S](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Big-B05S)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/30 "2018-10-31T23:20:00Z")
> [@CuJIA\_B\_PRAVDE](#): > > Only the ignorant can compare the USSR and Germany. The USSR liberated the world from the plague of the 20th century-N\_a\_z\_i\_s\_m. The USSR destroyed 75% of the AXIS ’ military power. 27 million Soviet citizens died in that war, with military losses comparable to Germany.(Britain and the United States lost a total of 400 thousand), the Soviet Union lost millions of innocent civilians, women, elderly and children. In the USSR, hundreds of cities and thousands of villages were completely destroyed and turned to dust, millions of people were taken into slavery in Germany, millions of civilians were killed only on the grounds that they were not Aryans. And in the game instead of the red army in a single company represented by the Germans. Where is the logic? Although about the logic of the “Dice” there are a lot of jokes. Lol where are you getting these numbers? The casualties for Germany for Western and Eastern fronts were roughly 5 million each so no USSR did not destroy 75% of German military. And not only Germans are to be blamed for high civilian casualties the communist leadership cared little for their people and did not bother much with evacuations they practically knowingly left people to die. And if Mr. Moustache cared very little for his people he cared even less for his soldiers because USSRs military tactics relied mostly on throwing so much meat in the grinder that the grinder would jam. Had the war had even manpower on both sides the USSR would have not lasted a year before they would have had to surrender. And in the end the Soviets proved they were no better than the N.azis by almost every woman in Germany when they won. You also forget that EA is a western game publisher and most their games are made for primarily to entertain western audiences ---
**Author:** ![MrCrecer13](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mrcrecer13/32/106977_2.png) [@MrCrecer13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCrecer13)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/31 "2018-11-01T06:24:00Z")
> [@Big-B05S](#): > > > [@CuJIA\_B\_PRAVDE](#): > > > > Only the ignorant can compare the USSR and Germany. The USSR liberated the world from the plague of the 20th century-N\_a\_z\_i\_s\_m. The USSR destroyed 75% of the AXIS ’ military power. 27 million Soviet citizens died in that war, with military losses comparable to Germany.(Britain and the United States lost a total of 400 thousand), the Soviet Union lost millions of innocent civilians, women, elderly and children. In the USSR, hundreds of cities and thousands of villages were completely destroyed and turned to dust, millions of people were taken into slavery in Germany, millions of civilians were killed only on the grounds that they were not Aryans. And in the game instead of the red army in a single company represented by the Germans. Where is the logic? Although about the logic of the “Dice” there are a lot of jokes. > > Lol where are you getting these numbers? The casualties for Germany for Western and Eastern fronts were roughly 5 million each so no USSR did not destroy 75% of German military. And not only Germans are to be blamed for high civilian casualties the communist leadership cared little for their people and did not bother much with evacuations they practically knowingly left people to die. And if Mr. Moustache cared very little for his people he cared even less for his soldiers because USSRs military tactics relied mostly on throwing so much meat in the grinder that the grinder would jam. Had the war had even manpower on both sides the USSR would have not lasted a year before they would have had to surrender. And in the end the Soviets proved they were no better than the N.azis by almost every woman in Germany when they won. You also forget that EA is a western game publisher and most their games are made for primarily to entertain western audiences Oh dear, another historian has seen enough of the Enemy at the Gates and claims about 2 million women. Two conflicting myths invented about the Red Army: - Evil NKVD were everywhere and if you fart without orders you will be shot and machine gun - 2 million women And now start to think with your head and not with propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ninjapenquinuk)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 9:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/32 "2018-11-01T09:00:00Z")
> [@CuJIA\_B\_PRAVDE](#): > > > [@Luggerix](#): > > > > You ask why you can play as Germany? Then I have to ask: Why you want to play as Soviet Union, which brought so much evil and killed millions of innocent people? It was a bloody war, neither side was innocent. So it would be nice to have a War Story for every faction. > > Only the ignorant can compare the USSR and Germany. The USSR liberated the world from the plague of the 20th century-N\_a\_z\_i\_s\_m. The USSR destroyed 75% of the AXIS ’ military power. 27 million Soviet citizens died in that war, with military losses comparable to Germany.(Britain and the United States lost a total of 400 thousand), the Soviet Union lost millions of innocent civilians, women, elderly and children. In the USSR, hundreds of cities and thousands of villages were completely destroyed and turned to dust, millions of people were taken into slavery in Germany, millions of civilians were killed only on the grounds that they were not Aryans. And in the game instead of the red army in a single company represented by the Germans. Where is the logic? Although about the logic of the “Dice” there are a lot of jokes. No doubting the Soviets huge loses, but the USSR were hardly benign ‘liberators’ were they? How long did they occupy many Eastern European countries for after they were ‘liberated’? ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyDanDaMan](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@DeadlyDanDaMan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DeadlyDanDaMan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 9:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/33 "2018-11-01T09:12:00Z")
> [@ragnarok013](#): > > > [@DeadlyDanDaMan](#): > > > > Germany was NEVER allied with anyone. They just pretended to be. Adolf (apparently his last name is censored for some dumb reason) broke every treaty he ever signed. > > I suspect the Italians and Japanese who were both officially in the Axis alliance would be extremely surprised at your statement. Lol, and you think Adolf actually cared at all about them?! No, he didn’t. Not in the slightest. He would’ve taken over their countries too if given the chance. I can 100% guarantee that. You people seem to forget that Adolf didn’t want JUST Europe, he wanted the WHOLE WORLD. That was why he started doing his twisted eugenics programs. He was trying to create a “superior” human race. ---
**Author:** ![killerphish](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@killerphish](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/killerphish)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 3:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/34 "2018-11-02T03:46:00Z")
> [@Big-B05S](#): > > > [@CuJIA\_B\_PRAVDE](#): > > > > Only the ignorant can compare the USSR and Germany. The USSR liberated the world from the plague of the 20th century-N\_a\_z\_i\_s\_m. The USSR destroyed 75% of the AXIS ’ military power. 27 million Soviet citizens died in that war, with military losses comparable to Germany.(Britain and the United States lost a total of 400 thousand), the Soviet Union lost millions of innocent civilians, women, elderly and children. In the USSR, hundreds of cities and thousands of villages were completely destroyed and turned to dust, millions of people were taken into slavery in Germany, millions of civilians were killed only on the grounds that they were not Aryans. And in the game instead of the red army in a single company represented by the Germans. Where is the logic? Although about the logic of the “Dice” there are a lot of jokes. > > Lol where are you getting these numbers? The casualties for Germany for Western and Eastern fronts were roughly 5 million each so no USSR did not destroy 75% of German military. And not only Germans are to be blamed for high civilian casualties the communist leadership cared little for their people and did not bother much with evacuations they practically knowingly left people to die. And if Mr. Moustache cared very little for his people he cared even less for his soldiers because USSRs military tactics relied mostly on throwing so much meat in the grinder that the grinder would jam. Had the war had even manpower on both sides the USSR would have not lasted a year before they would have had to surrender. And in the end the Soviets proved they were no better than the N.azis by almost every woman in Germany when they won. You also forget that EA is a western game publisher and most their games are made for primarily to entertain western audiences lol, how many division did Germany throw at the eastern front? you got no clue. ---
**Author:** ![SergeantGekko](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SergeantGekko](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SergeantGekko)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/35 "2018-10-17T03:41:00Z")
> [@ragnarok013](#): > > > [@Tsepottaja](#): > > > > Because BF5 is about the early war battles at launch. Havent you paid attention at all? > > There will be more factions coming with Tides of war. I’m 110% sure that Soviet Union will be one of them so hold your horses. > > The Soviets started WWII along with their ally Germany when they jointly invaded and partitioned Poland so it is conceivable that the Soviets could be represented early on. Hmm, they weren’t allies. There was just this Molotov-Ribbentrop contract about no hostilities and how to share land buffers between Germany and Soviet. ---
**Author:** ![IIIIIFELIXIIIIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/iiiiifelixiiiiii/32/106766_2.png) [@IIIIIFELIXIIIIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IIIIIFELIXIIIIII)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 7:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/36 "2018-10-17T07:16:00Z")
> [@Bluemoon2393](#): > > Most likely it will be DLC based. The game is at the beginning off the war. When Britain and France declared war on Germany after they invaded Poland. The Norwegian campaign was to divert the war away from France. But also to stop Germany getting valuable resources from Norway and Sweden. Hopefully we will see the Soviet Union in the game and also some maps like Stalingrad (Volgograd), Moscow, St Petersburg and Kiev. The USSR destroyed 75% of the “AXIS” military power. 9 out of 10 German soldiers were killed on the Eastern front. I find it strange and wrong that on release there is no Soviet weapons. ---
**Author:** ![GrizzGolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/grizzgolf/32/102129_2.png) [@GrizzGolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GrizzGolf)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 8:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/37 "2018-10-17T08:44:00Z")
They will come in one of the DLCs right? ---
**Author:** ![PvtJohnTowle](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pvtjohntowle/32/103189_2.png) [@PvtJohnTowle](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PvtJohnTowle)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/38 "2018-10-17T10:58:00Z")
> [@CuJIA\_B\_PRAVDE](#): > > > [@Bluemoon2393](#): > > > > Most likely it will be DLC based. The game is at the beginning off the war. When Britain and France declared war on Germany after they invaded Poland. The Norwegian campaign was to divert the war away from France. But also to stop Germany getting valuable resources from Norway and Sweden. Hopefully we will see the Soviet Union in the game and also some maps like Stalingrad (Volgograd), Moscow, St Petersburg and Kiev. > > The USSR destroyed 75% of the “AXIS” military power. 9 out of 10 German soldiers were killed on the Eastern front. I find it strange and wrong that on release there is no Soviet weapons. Because that is not the direction EA/DICE are taking with “Tides of War” don’t you read anything and understand what is going on? ---
**Author:** ![IIIIIFELIXIIIIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/iiiiifelixiiiiii/32/106766_2.png) [@IIIIIFELIXIIIIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IIIIIFELIXIIIIII)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 11:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/39 "2018-10-17T11:43:00Z")
Sorry I do not know English, I use an online translator and it is not always correctly translates the meaning. Please tell me what is “Tides of War”? ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 11:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826/40 "2018-10-17T11:50:00Z")
> [@CuJIA\_B\_PRAVDE](#): > > Sorry I do not know English, I use an online translator and it is not always correctly translates the meaning. Please tell me what is “Tides of War”? A series of extra game content that will come in chapters, just like the content patches of World of Warcract. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826.md?page=1) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/soviet-weapons/105826.md?page=3)