# State of the Game - Help DICE Prioritize!

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 18, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087 "2017-07-18T19:27:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BFB-LeCharybdis](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bfb-lecharybdis/32/101325_2.png) [@BFB-LeCharybdis](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BFB-LeCharybdis)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 10:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/281 "2018-08-09T10:11:00Z")

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The matchmaking! Sweet mother of god better matchmaking!!

Absolutely amazing game though, thank you so much for your hard work

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**Author:** ![AngryDAD\_7503](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@AngryDAD\_7503](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AngryDAD_7503)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/282 "2018-08-12T04:20:00Z")

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loving this new patch… how did you manage to F it up so bad??? most of my kills today i hit the enemy for 101-103???

about time dice went back to making GAMES, not rushing sub standard crap out to please the investors interests and start making QUALITY games for their CUSTOMERS!!!

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**Author:** ![ChaoticallyCalm](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/chaoticallycalm/32/101494_2.png) [@ChaoticallyCalm](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChaoticallyCalm)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/283 "2018-08-12T16:32:00Z")

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> [@AngryDAD\_7503](#):
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> loving this new patch… how did you manage to F it up so bad??? most of my kills today i hit the enemy for 101-103???
> 
> about time dice went back to making GAMES, not rushing sub standard crap out to please the investors interests and start making QUALITY games for their CUSTOMERS!!!

Means you hit more than one enemy, thats how it would be over 100. just slow it down and work with your squad, use vehicles, pick up elites, grenades always work good, if your sniping, means you hit the guy behind him. It will get better just keep on playing.

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**Author:** ![killsomenaz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/b782af/32.png) [@killsomenaz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/killsomenaz)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 11:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/284 "2018-08-12T23:51:00Z")

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ps4 player here , cant find a game from in the name of the tsar or turning tides in operations …why did you made it impossible to play a game if we are not at least 20 ? you should have implemented bots cause no one is playing in your DLC and creating a server is useless without 19 more players from the start

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**Author:** ![AngryDAD\_7503](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@AngryDAD\_7503](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AngryDAD_7503)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/285 "2018-08-12T23:57:00Z")

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> [@ChaoticallyCalm](#):
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> Means you hit more than one enemy, thats how it would be over 100. just slow it down and work with your squad, use vehicles, pick up elites, grenades always work good, if your sniping, means you hit the guy behind him. It will get better just keep on playing.

no one else about… in a one v one battle and this kill score is over 100??? for clarity the banner that pops up with the name it red said hit for 103

keep on playing, well its a bit hard to enjoy with all the changes, inconsistant servers, poor hit marker detection (now getting more than 100 on a single kill from damage), changes to TTK… been waiting for it to get better. I even got a pass so I could enjoy all that was on offer, wasted money as each DLC the game got worse…

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**Author:** ![mollyfrank1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@mollyfrank1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mollyfrank1)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/286 "2018-08-13T22:56:00Z")

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groan. another session of rubbish faults

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**Author:** ![MikeyCheung1111](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MikeyCheung1111](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MikeyCheung1111)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 4:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/287 "2018-08-14T04:44:00Z")

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> [@Kamykatz](#):
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> Dear DICE, definitely pioritize dealing with performance issues!
> 
> -) Servers / hit reg: There’s a plethora of threads about issues with hit reg, lag, rubberbanding, the influence of high pingers on servers etc.
> 
> -) Disconnects: This has been a major issue since Nivelle Nights (at least for me), and it’s no fun if on some days every other game gets disconnected before it starts or, worse, mid-game.
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> Resolving these issues would greatly enhance the gaming experience.
> 
> And then, of course, this:
> 
> -) Balance.

They wont make any improvement on their games, they only want more sales， so far, as u know, the hacker is still exist, I believe that Bfv may had hacked by someone

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**Author:** ![Colonel111](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Colonel111](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Colonel111)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 9:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/288 "2018-08-14T09:46:00Z")

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I wroted my wishes and known errors in the first Alpha, but i discovered two more things:  
-The movement of Guns should be blocked, if the Gun is sliding through the Vehicle. Like the Rear Gunner of the Bomber in BF1. The Movement of Mg´s should be accurate to the shape of the Vehicle.  
-I missed the Reload Animation on the PAK like on the Field Cannon in Bf1.

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**Author:** ![beetroot888](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@beetroot888](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/beetroot888)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/289 "2018-08-16T14:54:00Z")

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Dice is trash. Lose connection to games every single day. Not once in a while but every single day. Good luck with bfv. My money stays with me. Oh an thx for another update riddled with bugs you morons. Good thing your CEO just quit.

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**Author:** ![UrinDenialP](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@UrinDenialP](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UrinDenialP)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/290 "2018-08-16T20:08:00Z")

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can you show the two udp latencies ?  
from server to console and console to server?

also can you show lag comp on both udp streams…

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**Author:** ![Jknight256](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jknight256](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jknight256)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/291 "2018-08-16T21:02:00Z")

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Please reward players for spotting, People are so lazy and they think you can’t even spot in BF5 it’s stupid

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**Author:** ![d3monkid12](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@d3monkid12](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/d3monkid12)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/292 "2018-08-16T22:34:00Z")

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> [@beetroot888](#):
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> Dice is trash. Lose connection to games every single day. Not once in a while but every single day. Good luck with bfv. My money stays with me. Oh an thx for another update riddled with bugs you morons. Good thing your CEO just quit.

I was thinking EA servers were the problem not dice, because I have same issues with mass effect and they are both EA games

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**Author:** ![d3monkid12](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@d3monkid12](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/d3monkid12)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/293 "2018-08-16T22:36:00Z")

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> [@UrinDenialP](#):
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> can you show the two udp latencies ?  
> from server to console and console to server?
> 
> also can you show lag comp on both udp streams…

I bet I got a screenshot or a clip I usually have my network graph on because of how bad the game lags for me even with a wired connection and I’ve put 1000+ hours in this gamr

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**Author:** ![beetroot888](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@beetroot888](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/beetroot888)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/294 "2018-08-17T00:40:00Z")

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> [@d3monkid12](#):
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> > [@beetroot888](#):
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> > Dice is trash. Lose connection to games every single day. Not once in a while but every single day. Good luck with bfv. My money stays with me. Oh an thx for another update riddled with bugs you morons. Good thing your CEO just quit.
> 
> I was thinking EA servers were the problem not dice, because I have same issues with mass effect and they are both EA games

Your right. Ea servers are garbage. Losing connections left and right. Just plain garbage . I’ll never buy any ea games again. The video gaming industry as a whole is just garbage. From crappy games to not supporting their servers just garbage. And we keep buying it. No more from me.

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**Author:** ![CoastalChain82](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/coastalchain82/32/101540_2.png) [@CoastalChain82](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CoastalChain82)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 3:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/295 "2018-08-17T03:04:00Z")

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I don’t usually like to complain, but love the game and would like to see some things fixed:

1. I’m still walking through walls, getting stuck in walls and behind boxes, and unable to walk over (must vault over) curbs or dirt mounds. Usually, this is after the destruction of the building or if there’s debris on the field. The game’s been out too long for this to still be going on.
2. There are still aimbots and auto spotting in the game that are not a result of lag, latency, or magic. FairFight is clearly not picking it up. I play in Japan. Please spectate some Chinese, Japanese, German, and Korean players to get an idea of the problem. There are loaded controllers on the market in these countries that work with PS4. Stationary 74-0 with an unscoped LMG at the top of Cape Helles is a thing. It’s worse since the last update. Now, I’m spotted as soon as I spawn in and headshot in the spawn trap on Achi Baba. If you’re not going to do anything about it, please let me know and I’ll go get a loaded controller just so I can defend myself.
3. Stationaries and vehicle HMG’s are uncontrollable, nerfed beyond the ridiculous, have sub-sonic bullet speeds. They’re particularly pointless considering that everyone knows where they are. Why spend the development hours only to make them useless? People stand next to the stationary and shoot because they don’t have confidence in a fixed-mounted automatic weapon, or that it doesn’t quite turn far enough to cover a lane. And if I’m shooting at a sniper with a HEAVY machine gun, should it really take seven or eight hit markers to get the job done? So many just bunny hop away… They would be redeemed if they were any good against aircraft or the behemoth. Alas, every round fired is a tracer round, so that won’t last long. Damn, there’s still no reason to use these things…
4. Still blowing dirt holes underneath engineers on Sinai who are trying to shoot my tank, but not actually killing the players that are now standing/laying in them. Also, still wounding players who stand behind wooden crates and fences or as my round hits the stone wall directly above them. These are EXPLOSIVE main tank rounds…just saying. Do I really need a direct hit for full damage? I’m inside 2-3 meters… Dynamite has better splash damage. (As all who have accidentally killed themselves will know.)
5. Grenades and mortars are replenished more quickly now it seems. Nothing quite like two or three support players spamming air burst from outside the operations map while choking on unlimited supplies of suffocative, obscurant, and combustibles. If this is an attempt to make it “more intense” it’s just more annoying. Like the self-repairing, invincible wooden bi-plane with unlimited grenades that kills me twice (after a revive) within 30 seconds. It would be nice to revisit the replenishment times for everyone, especially making the bi-planes think a little more about their inventories.
6. Sentry kits are no longer worthwhile. The accuracy (spreads like an umbrella) and the punch (worse than a pistol) are gone. Knowing that…the whole enemy team just charges, because they’ll likely cover the 50 meters and get a bayonet kill before you shoot off enough rounds to kill even one of them. Like the stationaries, people just walk away from those kits now because they’re worse than what they spawned in with.  
Sorry for the negativity. Woo-Sah…Love the game. Play all the time. Can’t wait for BFV.

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**Author:** ![Jknight256](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jknight256](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jknight256)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/296 "2018-08-17T04:19:00Z")

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> [@CoastalChain82](#):
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> I don’t usually like to complain, but love the game and would like to see some things fixed:
> 
> 1. I’m still walking through walls, getting stuck in walls and behind boxes, and unable to walk over (must vault over) curbs or dirt mounds. Usually, this is after the destruction of the building or if there’s debris on the field. The game’s been out too long for this to still be going on.
> 2. There are still aimbots and auto spotting in the game that are not a result of lag, latency, or magic. FairFight is clearly not picking it up. I play in Japan. Please spectate some Chinese, Japanese, German, and Korean players to get an idea of the problem. There are loaded controllers on the market in these countries that work with PS4. Stationary 74-0 with an unscoped LMG at the top of Cape Helles is a thing. It’s worse since the last update. Now, I’m spotted as soon as I spawn in and headshot in the spawn trap on Achi Baba. If you’re not going to do anything about it, please let me know and I’ll go get a loaded controller just so I can defend myself.
> 3. Stationaries and vehicle HMG’s are uncontrollable, nerfed beyond the ridiculous, have sub-sonic bullet speeds. They’re particularly pointless considering that everyone knows where they are. Why spend the development hours only to make them useless? People stand next to the stationary and shoot because they don’t have confidence in a fixed-mounted automatic weapon, or that it doesn’t quite turn far enough to cover a lane. And if I’m shooting at a sniper with a HEAVY machine gun, should it really take seven or eight hit markers to get the job done? So many just bunny hop away… They would be redeemed if they were any good against aircraft or the behemoth. Alas, every round fired is a tracer round, so that won’t last long. Damn, there’s still no reason to use these things…
> 4. Still blowing dirt holes underneath engineers on Sinai who are trying to shoot my tank, but not actually killing the players that are now standing/laying in them. Also, still wounding players who stand behind wooden crates and fences or as my round hits the stone wall directly above them. These are EXPLOSIVE main tank rounds…just saying. Do I really need a direct hit for full damage? I’m inside 2-3 meters… Dynamite has better splash damage. (As all who have accidentally killed themselves will know.)
> 5. Grenades and mortars are replenished more quickly now it seems. Nothing quite like two or three support players spamming air burst from outside the operations map while choking on unlimited supplies of suffocative, obscurant, and combustibles. If this is an attempt to make it “more intense” it’s just more annoying. Like the self-repairing, invincible wooden bi-plane with unlimited grenades that kills me twice (after a revive) within 30 seconds. It would be nice to revisit the replenishment times for everyone, especially making the bi-planes think a little more about their inventories.
> 6. Sentry kits are no longer worthwhile. The accuracy (spreads like an umbrella) and the punch (worse than a pistol) are gone. Knowing that…the whole enemy team just charges, because they’ll likely cover the 50 meters and get a bayonet kill before you shoot off enough rounds to kill even one of them. Like the stationaries, people just walk away from those kits now because they’re worse than what they spawned in with.  
> Sorry for the negativity. Woo-Sah…Love the game. Play all the time. Can’t wait for BFV.

What is your rig setup and windows version? I haven’t had any problems in about 3-4 months

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**Author:** ![ChaoticallyCalm](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/chaoticallycalm/32/101494_2.png) [@ChaoticallyCalm](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChaoticallyCalm)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/297 "2018-08-17T04:25:00Z")

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Please, Listen to the game, you can hear people running toward you, if people use flares, you can now use the compass to give even a better direction with NUMBERS, the game not as broken as you say, what everyone fails to see is the squad TEAMWORK aspect, you want nonstop grenades take an ammo pouch and give them to medics who use rifle grens, assaults that have at grens. Mortars coming back quicker technically next to a crate it should supply faster, but it takes time believe that, if supports communicate and space out their mortars yes they can bombard constantly. Those are some of the issues you mentioned but this is why they happen. The biplanes yes it’s awful yet again assaults can take the aa rocket gun, and supports can use there lmgs to make short work of that plane. Yes it sucks not having 100 kills a game, being rambo, feeling as though ok I’M awesome so why am i dying! HOW CAN THEY SEE ME! Why cant anyone spot! WHY AM I THE ONLY MEDIC! why won’t people let me revive them, WHY DIDN’T THEY TELL ME HOW MANY GUYS WERE THERE! DaMN the top dude who says in chat " team, wtf were you doing, am i the only one killing", 100 and 3 deaths, but either he was revived by medics who will not be recognised! Or sat in a tank and snipped form spawn! Know you are not alone, I hate joining games and listening to all the complaining, The fact that people just don’t know the basics kills me. Everyone is a leader, and all are wanna be killers that demand backup but only complain, and say how much they have done. When in fact they never once fire a flare, pick up a kit to help a team mate, Get out of a vehicle to make it a spawn point, WAIT TO BE REVIVED! then since the issues exist, people go for 200% servers, which they are normally hardcore, flares are useless, no map. Everyone is one shotting, either feeling good, cause finally they feel they have become great. Yet they haven’t, Battlefield 1 is a great game, I for one hate what they did to slide, but i cant help compete with all the crybabies. Soon the death of games will be here, and it will be sooner then you think. I have so real concerns with bfv, and I hope i’m wrong, if you are wandering, think of the season pass being gone. Now what will happen? was it really terrible that Battlefield 1 revolution came with season pass for 19.00 dollars on sale 8 times on origin? Somehow people may have missed this, Well if that’s true then really what can we really be looking towards since people cant read, or notice anything, it seems. There is voice comm no one uses, if a team works there off, dudes who have been lighting up the chat saying how unfair, all of a sudden become the instigators of “EZ, you guys suck, we wrecked you. YOUR TEAM BLOWS” Then in comes the great balancing dice! Then there is unlocking weapons having to do challenges, “OH its to hard! How can you expect this, IMPOSSIBLE!” I’m sorry that thought you could try something different!

My point i played this the whole way through i didn’t truly care for it till the expansion the tsar. I loved it even with ttk2.0, I molded to the game, because even with all the crap my brother loved it, so I strove to love it, I found out everything i could. Setup everything perfect so it was as immersive as i could make it. Max graphics, great keybinds, expensive mice, perfect DPI settings. Yes it was work but it paid off, but only for a little. My fellow soldiers helped in aiding to destroy my passion for gaming. As all the whining has basically, made games now play themselves, and players are terrified of ranks, Levels don’t matter in this game. It just shows time invested. Hell I started before the exp boost.

I need to ask you, can we stop blaming, and first learn the game, then give constructive ideas, that would lead to building a player base, instead of destroying it?  
As you know Fortnite is now every developers goal. I see young kids and they ask for the credit card to get a new skin that well it only costs 50000 coins, Oh well that only 150 dollars! But it looks innocent and then the following day another skin, some other useless vanity. And kids really go crazy for them it blows my mind. So with that said, are loadouts going to be available for purchase? will there be same loadouts with different camos? Maybe SKINS for guns, or dog tags for profit. Every little thing all because hey season pass and game for 20 bucks, DAMN thats to much. I payed for them when it was 120 for the whole deal, and i did it way more then once. Bf1 was the only game i would purchase for sometime. Because I really believed in the community, Because I played all of them and saw players teach eachother, then Bf1 came in and teh player base dissolved everyone just wanted to be KD champs. Players didn’t help they just told you how stupid and useless you were. Wake up and see whats really happening to your passion, to what drove you, look at see that its being decimated and now NEEDS the GAMERS TO AID ITS SURVIVAL.

I don’t expect you to read this, I don’t think anything will come from this. Just another post in the void. Well I don’t plan on giving up but once the fun is gone, i will be too,cause learning to “break the game with the game” i mean where would quake have been? Try to remember games, when you went to your friends and had to show them, or have them help you beat, as you both really learned to solve the puzzle together! Well have fun battlefield players, game players, there still might be hope yet.

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**Author:** ![CoastalChain82](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/coastalchain82/32/101540_2.png) [@CoastalChain82](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CoastalChain82)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 5:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/298 "2018-08-17T05:12:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> What is your rig setup and windows version? I haven’t had any problems in about 3-4 months

Running with PS4. Out of the box setup. Usually have a ping of 5-50 on my Japanese servers, which is acceptable.

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**Author:** ![CoastalChain82](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/coastalchain82/32/101540_2.png) [@CoastalChain82](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CoastalChain82)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 6:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/299 "2018-08-17T06:30:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Know you are not alone, I hate joining games and listening to all the complaining, The fact that people just don’t know the basics kills me. Everyone is a leader, and all are wanna be killers that demand backup but only complain, and say how much they have done. When in fact they never once fire a flare, pick up a kit to help a team mate, Get out of a vehicle to make it a spawn point, WAIT TO BE REVIVED!"

Thanks for the response. A lot to unpack. I’ve been playing the franchise since BF3/BF4 on XBox and now BF1 on PS4 with my BFV pre-order in. I like the series. I know all too well what you’re talking about. This was a different game in 2016 than it is now and there have been a lot of changes. I’ve been content to roll with them all. I don’t mind admitting that I’m not the best or that I get frustrated with my team sometimes. Please understand, mine was not a rant about that. On a console, there is almost no communication when playing alone anyway, even if you do have headsets. I like the grind and to earn the weapons that I unlock. I understand that folks want to start with everything, and if they’re willing to pay for it, let them. DICE deserves to earn money for making the game. I’ll get it all soon enough and be ready to use it for free. Also, understand that I don’t like to scream “cheater” every time I get killed. I’ve made some good shots and have met some pretty good players. When I get killed 7-0 by someone who’s not in a vehicle, sometimes I spectate to find out what they’re doing right that I’m doing wrong. That’s how I improved my sniping game, for example, which still isn’t that good, to be honest. Others rely on enhancements, which is plain to see: drop shots, zero recoil, quick scope, etc. In spectator mode, it’s pretty obvious and it kind of ruins the experience since these mods are so pervasive. Then there are things that the developers could work on to make the experience a little less grenade spammy, which is what made BF3 and BF4 boorish on some maps. It’s a fair criticism. Six dudes with unlimited ammo and a medic to revive them in near perfect cover. It’s a difficult nut to crack, yes, that’s why folks do it. Why you probably do it, too. High K/D and low risk. Anyone charging the hill gets mowed down and we fight to a standstill with snipers setting up campfires and everyone waiting for a tank to spawn. They’re defending/attacking the objective, so all’s good, right? However, point totals on the leaderboard favor multi-kills and time on the objective not revives or resupplies. Some of the crappy gameplay is a response to poor in-game rules, weapon nerfing, and map artificialities, not a lack of desire for team play. Maybe this is why folks “buy a little edge” with their SCUF or Strikepack F.P.S. controllers? My point.

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**Author:** ![UrinDenialP](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@UrinDenialP](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UrinDenialP)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 10:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/state-of-the-game-help-dice-prioritize/103087/300 "2018-08-17T10:01:00Z")

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> [@d3monkid12](#):
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> > [@UrinDenialP](#):
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> > can you show the two udp latencies ?  
> > from server to console and console to server?
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> > also can you show lag comp on both udp streams…
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> I bet I got a screenshot or a clip I usually have my network graph on because of how bad the game lags for me even with a wired connection and I’ve put 1000+ hours in this gamr

but the netgraph is blx.

its only showing latency which can only be one way.  
why arent they shoing latency on the other data stream?

yes there will be two as udp is not a connection.

multi billion dollar company making such a basic error…and its customers are sufereing because they cant see any discrepancies

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