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Servers in every country that the game is officially sold in, Now!
God, It’s like marketing a brand new cellphone in the sahara desert..
Sure you CAN use it, But it will be a terrible frustrating experience.

Again for the ignorant that refuses to read anything in this thread:

my understanding is this, DICE took a minimalist approach to the server side for what ever reason. Mostly because they got behind and wanted to make the shareholders money and DICE needed the game to launch before Christmas. The original plan was to slowly add in features to the RSP. Obviously we all know this was a bad idea and yes the game should have been delayed 6 months. Now that EA has noticed as well as activision that sales are down, DICE is scrambling man power to get this ready before the Spring DLC patch. I guess the system was pretty bad and I am hearing DICE is revamping everything. It was asked why they did things this way and the response was it was either launch the game as is with RSP or not at all with RSP. The really sad part is, DICE did not get to even start on RSP until a few weeks before launch. Besides the down turn in AAA title game sales, there is the issue of all the money that was suppose to be brought in for RSP subscriptions. Guess what? DICE is not hitting the goals. Supposedly there is now a big concentrated effort at DICE to get the RSP up to pare for us again before Spring DLC. I was told via twitter it could come before then but no one at DICE is announcing any time tables other then what I already posted and has been announced.
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Battlefield 1’s Next Custom Game Announced, Update Planned for February
The first new Custom Game of 2017 is called Bleed Out.

DICE has announced what’s coming up for Battlefield 1 later this month and in February.
In a blog post today, https://www.battlefield.com/news/article/the-road-ahead-jan-2017 DICE started off by revealing a new Custom Game, Bleed Out, will arrive on January 18. It’s a version of Rush where downed soldiers die faster; also, there is no health regeneration. This is just the latest new Custom Game for Battlefield 1, as DICE has regularly released new ones since Battlefield 1’s launch in October.

Next month, February, a new update for Battlefield 1 will come out. DICE is saving specifics for later, but teased that it will contain “gameplay improvements” derived from its own testing and fan feedback. The studio previously discussed a series of features that could come to the game’s rented servers, though it remains to be seen if these may be addressed in the February update.

Battlefield 1 has already received substantial updates. They have added things like significant map changes, weapon and item balance changes, and a free DLC map called Giant’s Shadow in March.
Lastly, DICE reminded fans that Battlefield 1’s They Shall Not Pass expansion is coming out in March. We know it will add four maps, but the studio has kept quiet on what else it introduces.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/battlefield-1s-next-custom-game-announced-update-p/1100-6446664/

There you go, the next 3 months worth of updates.*

Again, DICE has mention on twitter to expect great things i February. There are suppose to be game play improvements. What? I am still unclear on. I would speculate some minor buffing and nerfing and hopefully things to make the game play smoother. If DICE is announcing it, then it is to be expected it will be fore everyone, PC, Xbox & PS. DICE has said they have made substantial improvements and many of us would say minor but that is all in the words and how they look at things and how we look at things.

I know I would like to see more RSP ability because it is killing my clan and the clans that play with us (over 200 active). Not to mention the regular pubbers that like to join in. We need the ability to kick and ban players. Hacking is out of control. The worst I have seen since COD MW2. The hacks are free and no detection of using them. Fairfight is doing a good job of catching them but it is a slow process that seems to take a month to get rid of them and then the sanctions are not stiff enough.

Another thing is the priority. DICE has admitted they got it backwards and the next update with show RSP servers first and not the DICE official servers.

So yeah, it’s all coming but at what cost? Most games have a shelf life of 3 to 6 months and then players stop and move on to something else and then get the next iteration of the game. The COD model. Release the game and announce what the next one will be in a year. Battlefield players tend to last longer but with the epic failures of BF Hardline and Star Wars Battlefront, DICE gamers are losing interest faster than ever. If t takes until March, the big question everyone needs to ask is not about RSP priority but who is left to play the game. My guys are already looking to move to ARMA 3.

As far as RCON goes, everything has to be rewritten for BF1. DICE can not use procon and it’s plugin’s. They would have to pay and they would rather pay the employees to do it. Phogue does work for DICE but he is being very tight lipped about everything because he had to sign a None Disclosure Agreement. He does not visit the forums any more at PROCON and he does get on teamspeak from time to time to talk with his guys but they do not talk about the work he is doing. Yes there is some sort of rcon but we do not know how it was set up. I can not tell you that they can just add a simple plugin and puff it’s done. My guess is they did not look that far. The took what they know from console games and gave us that set up. Simple and fast. Again my understanding is everything to do with RSP is being redone. To what capacity I do not know. We will all find out In March if not before then.

I would also like to add that this was started back on June 1, 2016. BF1 Servers - Thread for discussion of server rentals and settings*

And easy enough of search any thread.

While I do hope you are right @Axlerod1, I don’t have hope that RSP features will arrive with the Feb/March updates based on how this whole thing has played out. Every time DICE have been vague about RSP thus far, consumers have been disappointed. Remember the whole braddock escapades? “I have started a list of all of your questions and they will be answered as soon as we can” - None of them got answered, instead we got “Updates” that amounted to nothing but non-information, things like “You will be able to change the name”, “You will be able to change maps”, You wont be able to use RSP to butter your toast". They were vague for a reason, imo RSP didn’t exist at that point so confirming anything was impossible, yet they still managed to bait a lot of members of the community into purchasing the game and the Alpha RSP.

You will notice that no dates have been confirmed for ANY features of RSP

"The studio previously discussed a series of features that could come to the game’s rented servers, though it remains to be seen if these may be addressed in the February update."

Every official post I have seen about RSP has a similar disclaimer to the above, that is there for a reason, so when/if they fail to produce they can say “Hang on, we said it might not be ready by then”. It has been a staple of every news-release about RSP since it was announced.

Just my two cents. I do hope I eat my words, but I haven’t thus far.

I to hope what they have said is right. I remember that list all to well. I had it up to 145 questions.

While I don’t agree with the way dice did this. I actually said the game should have been delayed 6 months. The communications from DICE was deplorable. While I still believe the DEVs should be making more comments in the battlefield sections, at least we now know they are communicating.

If you missed it last week, Ali actually ran a server for testing. He posted the password on twitter to join in. Yes you had to enter a password to a password protected server. He also go booted from the server. 2 features we currently do not have.

Nothing has been mentioned on the balancer or if we can move players to balance. I really want those. I would also like admin messages to show my TS3 address. No word yet on that. This game is also in need to a word filter. I just love auto banning racist little trolls. Oh wait, I don’t have to, the filter does it for me.

I am giving the game until March on a wait and see. Like I have mentioned before, my group is so disappointed in the game currently, we put back up our BF4 server. It has calmed quite a few of us down from some of the stuff we see in BF1 currently.

Also worth mentioning, DICE supposedly put more bodies into the RSP development. Truly I am expecting big things and he has to be done by March at the latest. Games die out drastically after this point. DLC is not enough without server to support it and server needs clans for that.

Again like I mentioned before, this game released with 6 months of work left. I have my fingers crossed but I am not going to hold my breathe. I expect to know more in a few weeks.

@NetRngr OT… I might hop in tonight and play a few.

Also fired up and ARMA III server as well which was surprisingly easy to pick up. Played for the first time yesterday and took about 15 min to get the hang of it. Been having fun in both.

More than welcome anytime REV.

if anything related to the RSP is coming out in that patch, they should just come out and say it rather than leave it to speculation…

Ali did say. Go read it for yourself on twitter.
Way to show your ignorance.

Please reread this whole thread an catch up before posting.

For everyone’s sake here, I hope EA/DICE does something meaningful by March.

I’ve been minimizing my time on this forum, since I’ve grown tired of EA moving the goal post. In my view, they want us to keep playing, but they don’t want us to win.

Don’t be surprised to see the goal post move further by March.

Cheers!

if in march , battlelog, rsp with kick ban etc… are not in a update for new dlc i wan’t buy premium like Hardline, WAKE up DICE an EA !!!

I will go so far as to say that if some meaningful progress, and not just window dressing , have not been accomplished by March I am pretty much done with BF1 possibly any future BF titles until they prove themselves.
I’m having way too much fun in BF4 and ARMA to wait much longer.
Im willing to give them till march simply because I like the game itself and while many will disagree Ali has been very forthcoming about what’s being done you just cant expect to hear about it here which is why we post the updates here for you guys. Hell, I didn’t even have a Twitter account or Reddit till this whole weather system came about. Yeah im old, cranky and then newfangled interweb tubes trigger me.

Really f.e.c.al is filtered? WTF

Grumpy Old Fart! LOL

I agree… everyone is waiting for the next big DLC/patch.

It can be a great DLC, but if we don’t have control of our server, I don’t see our clan staying either.
I like this game and I think our RSP needs as a community are pretty understandable, clear and overdue.

EA/DICE please don’t screw this up!

I dont really fear for our clan. Honestly I have seen more folks on since we spun back up our BF4 server than I have in a long time. I do fear for our clans acceptance of any future tiles though. Pretty sure that damage is done and at a minimum its going to be a wait and see how the first few months shake out before even thinking about it.

Clans are only as good as the next PC title. BF1 really proved that for a lot of the older clans with BF1. Some bought it and regretted it and yet others did not.
Our group had over 200 that bought and played BF4. There were maybe 25 that got BF1. We are a hardcore mode group but with all the issues in BF1 that group of 25 even got split.

Like Netrngr said, we got our BF4 server up and we got around 45 guys playing that. The others just got burnt out on BF4 and are playing ARMA 3, or the division, or Rainbow 6.

That is what happens when a new game comes out but it is worse if it flops and we have to wait 3 more years for the next installment. Even then, we have to cross our fingers it won’t be like this.

I think that having diversity in gaming options is good for clan. For example, we still have our BF4 server, an Insurgency server and now we have been enjoying the new Black Ops 3 unranked server. Our clan is small, but we have a dedicated group of players that have been keeping up the support. If BF1 ever gets a server program that is decent, we will probably get one (especially considering the money we all invested in the game), but until then, we will be in the other games. I don’t think any of us has been in BF1 in over a month.

I would have to agree and disagree. A gaming community, or clan, is only as good as the leaders at the top who keep the wheels moving. Games can hurt the number of members you have, but your core players will always be there. Yes, BF1 and titles like it can hurt a community – especially a new one. However, if you have been around a long time you know that clans have up years and down years. Unless you are one of those money pit groups where anyone can join, everyone thinks they are the boss, and no-one knows your name or even who you are or when you joined.