# Stuttering, Freezing, FPS drop - FIX **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [November 17, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785 "2013-11-17T17:50:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Axias\_V](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@Axias\_V](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Axias_V)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 1:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/41 "2013-11-18T01:23:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _SuperGhostMaster said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Zlobakin said:_ > > Guys, enough with this bullshit fix. > > > > It’s from the game and DICE need to fix it, stop touching stuff. It’s not from our computers, it’s their fault. > > This completely ignores the fact that some users have very specific problems that CAN be computer-related. There is indeed problems with the game. However, there are also system-related issues. > > If you want to pretend there isn’t and never resolve them, you’re likely to continue to have issues even when the game is 100% stable. Anybody who didn’t have any stuttering before the latest update, then has constant stuttering after the update, are safe to say that it’s on the developers side. ---
**Author:** ![LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LondonCitizen)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 1:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/42 "2013-11-18T01:41:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Axias\_V said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _SuperGhostMaster said:_ > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > _Zlobakin said:_ > > > Guys, enough with this bullshit fix. > > > > > > It’s from the game and DICE need to fix it, stop touching stuff. It’s not from our computers, it’s their fault. > > > > This completely ignores the fact that some users have very specific problems that CAN be computer-related. There is indeed problems with the game. However, there are also system-related issues. > > > > If you want to pretend there isn’t and never resolve them, you’re likely to continue to have issues even when the game is 100% stable. > > Anybody who didn’t have any stuttering before the latest update, then has constant stuttering after the update, are safe to say that it’s on the developers side. That’s good to know but what about people which had stuttering since Day 1 like me. I guess EA does not care. They need to accept people had this problem since Beta and nobody dealt with it. We need to see some action to get this fixed. ---
**Author:** ![theshadower1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@theshadower1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/theshadower1)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/43 "2013-11-18T01:44:00Z")
How about a fix on the flickering issue on SLI setups? ---
**Author:** ![EGY-Sakka](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@EGY-Sakka](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EGY-Sakka)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 2:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/44 "2013-11-18T02:04:00Z")
Greetings, I own a 4GB ram, using a HDD, I tried your method but for some reason my game is now freezing and stuttering more than ever, even now when I try to run RAMmap it crashes, I noticed that the ‘Zeroed’ part is taking 1.5 GB of my RAM, windows even gave me an error saying that I am low on memory and wants me to close down programs.. (including BF4) What are your suggestions? at the moment I am reverting back the settings I have applied from your process. ---
**Author:** ![flaviusmarcelus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@flaviusmarcelus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/flaviusmarcelus)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/45 "2013-11-18T02:06:00Z")
never do this… this is garbage… i prefer a patch READ THIS: there´s also other 1000 possible solutions…some may work some may not. ---
**Author:** ![Endgame77](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/endgame77/32/101862_2.png) [@Endgame77](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Endgame77)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/46 "2013-11-18T02:09:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _SuperGhostMaster said:_ > This I really a work-around for the issue with your SSD not being able to keep up with running BF4 and Windows simultaneously. > > You’re better off skipping allof this and moving your page file to a different drive. This way your read/write times aren’t being bogged down n-game by a constant write to the page file. > > The game writes to the page file essentially to cache things it needs to access on a temporary basis as a type of temporary local storage. The page file method is used because Windows has features in place to optimized access of a page file vs. using a standard temp file. > > You may also be better off installing BF4 on a standard HDD and only running the OS on the SSD. If you want SSD speeds on such a resource-intensive game, you’re really going to need a 2nd SSD for running games from. > > The page file is constantly accessed and so an SSD will prioritize this over game files, resulting in the stuttering you’re seeing. > > Last, I’d strongly suggest replacing that OCZ drive. They’re crap in comparison to a Samsung EVO. > > Last-last, if you’re only running an SSD and no HDD (I see no mention of this) you’re doing it wrong. Everything you said there is insane. Seriously, you hvae no clue about pc hardware and should not be giving advice. ---
**Author:** ![LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LondonCitizen)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/47 "2013-11-18T02:15:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _EGY-Moustafa said:_ > Greetings, > > I own a 4GB ram, using a HDD, I tried your method but for some reason my game is now freezing and stuttering more than ever, even now when I try to run RAMmap it crashes, I noticed that the ‘Zeroed’ part is taking 1.5 GB of my RAM, windows even gave me an error saying that I am low on memory and wants me to close down programs.. (including BF4) > > What are your suggestions? at the moment I am reverting back the settings I have applied from your process. Hello, Yes Please revert to old settings, It appears that even that BF4 listed minimum memory requirement as 4GB it needs more and its trying to use pagefile. When I disable pagefile on my system BF4 is using standby memory to store data, however you have no standby memory left. Try to leave pagefile at your original settings and only try StepB so with pagefile enabled, prefetch and superfetch enabled try to empty your standby memory, (Empty Standby List, you can also try Emprty Priority 0 Standby List). Not sure if it help as I only tried this on 8GB RAM System. I will put a notice on original fix for people which have 4GB to not to disable pagefile. Thanks for confirming results and trying this out. Sorry that it didn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![MJForce5](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/4da419/32.png) [@MJForce5](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MJForce5)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/48 "2013-11-18T02:21:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Axias\_V said:_ > Anybody who didn’t have any stuttering before the latest update, then has constant stuttering after the update, are safe to say that it’s on the developers side. Same thing here. I haven’t had any crashes, game looks awesome on high settings, campaign runs great, but now its just unplayable. Two steps forward one step backwards continually within 10 seconds of entering a MP game. Ive done everything I want to do to my computer to try and get this running. Clean OS install, no antivirus, latest drivers for everything, upgraded to Win8 Pro from win7, installed bf4 in C:Drive, and a few other simple things. I don’t need to upgrade my rig: Alienware M18, loaded, purchased 6months ago, added 3 SSD’s. Waiting for the patch. ---
**Author:** ![McAdamstry](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@McAdamstry](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/McAdamstry)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/49 "2013-11-18T02:21:00Z")
Will look at trying this. I have the game files on a separate hdd to my os hdd but the game exe files are still on the os hdd as the origin client is there. ---
**Author:** ![LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LondonCitizen)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/50 "2013-11-18T02:55:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _warnpeh said:_ > works for me 😃 Hello Warnpeh, It would be great if you could post specs of your system it may help other users to see if they have same problem as us. have you Only used RAMMap or have you also disabled paging? Thanks very much. ---
**Author:** ![Fyter92](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/77aa72/32.png) [@Fyter92](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Fyter92)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/51 "2013-11-18T03:30:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _LondonCitizen said:_ > Hello Super GhostMaster, > > I had same issue when I ran game of 2nd hdd (non SSD) and also if I moved my page file to 2nd disk. > I have 1 SSD and other 3 normal disks. Whatever I done have not made any difference apart from disabling paging and clearing out standby memory. > > I doubt that switching to different SSD disk manufacturer would make this game run smooth, > > The work around this stuttering is to clean your standby memory not really disable paging, however it is something I chose to do anyway to minimize any use of additional resources. > > Game shouldn’t really need to page every few seconds your BF4 if you have 8GB of Ram, game should load up all the content into memory at startup loading process. Good tip! ---
**Author:** ![TheLazyTurttle](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@TheLazyTurttle](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheLazyTurttle)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/52 "2013-11-18T03:39:00Z")
Tried all of this and it didn’t fix anything. I haven’t experienced any stuttering, but I’m still crashing and getting kicked from servers about 50-80 percent of the games I enter. I haven’t been able to play Siege since release as it crashes every time. However, I would forgive all of this if they would just fix the netcode. Played a match earlier and unloaded 6 rounds point blank into someones back resulting in them instakilling me. It showed them at 96 hp after all of that… ---
**Author:** ![EGY-Sakka](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@EGY-Sakka](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EGY-Sakka)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/53 "2013-11-18T03:41:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _LondonCitizen said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _EGY-Moustafa said:_ > > Greetings, > > > > I own a 4GB ram, using a HDD, I tried your method but for some reason my game is now freezing and stuttering more than ever, even now when I try to run RAMmap it crashes, I noticed that the ‘Zeroed’ part is taking 1.5 GB of my RAM, windows even gave me an error saying that I am low on memory and wants me to close down programs.. (including BF4) > > > > What are your suggestions? at the moment I am reverting back the settings I have applied from your process. > > Hello, > > Yes Please revert to old settings, It appears that even that BF4 listed minimum memory requirement as 4GB it needs more and its trying to use pagefile. When I disable pagefile on my system BF4 is using standby memory to store data, however you have no standby memory left. > > Try to leave pagefile at your original settings and only try StepB so with pagefile enabled, prefetch and superfetch enabled try to empty your standby memory, (Empty Standby List, you can also try Emprty Priority 0 Standby List). Not sure if it help as I only tried this on 8GB RAM System. > > I will put a notice on original fix for people which have 4GB to not to disable pagefile. > Thanks for confirming results and trying this out. Sorry that it didn’t work. Since I am low on space on the windows drive, I moved ‘pagefile’ from C:\ to D:, I’ll let it take as much space as it needs and I’ll see how the game would perform that way, probably I am having stutters because the space is too low (only 1 GB free), at the moment I have 10 GB free on D:\ drive, I’ll see how it goes and report back. ---
**Author:** ![SubsonicDust](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SubsonicDust](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SubsonicDust)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/54 "2013-11-18T03:54:00Z")
I think this worked for me, but I can’t be sure it’s not just placebo. I was having moderate amounts of stuttering and CPU spikes previously, ranging from minor to severe at seemingly random intervals. It didn’t seem to matter what was going on, where I was looking, how many players were in the server or what graphics settings I ran at. I disabled page filing and superfetch on my SSD and emptied the standby list using RAMMap and there seems to be a marked improvement. There’s been no effect on FPS, but the stuttering and CPU spikes seem to have all but disappeared. Tried both 64-player Siege of Shanghai and Operation Locker with the same results. Also, I checked my memory usage on Task Manager and it’s now going above the 4 GB it seemed to stay at previously - all the way up to nearly 6 GB at times. Specs: AMD Phenom II x4 955 @3.20 GHz GTX 680 2 GB 256 GB SSD 8 GB RAM Thanks a lot for posting this, LondonCitizen! ---
**Author:** ![EGY-Sakka](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@EGY-Sakka](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EGY-Sakka)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/55 "2013-11-18T04:28:00Z")
Well, I enabled pagefile again but I also left Superfetch service enabled except Prefetch, it is still disabled.. “Zeroed” is eating my my memory really bad, not sure why or how to stop it from doing that, but here is a screenshot: [puu.sh] Any idea how to overcome this issue? EDITED: It is categorized under “Unused” - how to make that whole 2.4GB usable/free again? because my computer is hanging up from time to time because of it.. ---
**Author:** ![SubsonicDust](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SubsonicDust](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SubsonicDust)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 4:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/56 "2013-11-18T04:47:00Z")
I think “zeroed” memory is memory ready to use, not BEING used. I could be wrong, though. ---
**Author:** ![InoccuousICBM](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e9bcb4/32.png) [@InoccuousICBM](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/InoccuousICBM)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/57 "2013-11-18T04:55:00Z")
I tried everything on this list, and ten seconds after I launch bf4, it crashes with a directx error and says that it needs to close bf4 because the system doesn’t have enough memory. I’m going to revert everything ---
**Author:** ![the\_punisher\_ita](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/the_punisher_ita/32/107227_2.png) [@the\_punisher\_ita](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/the_punisher_ita)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/58 "2013-11-18T10:33:00Z")
This does not work at all like ALL THE OTHERS FIXES. There will be always placebo-effect whores that tell that it works, BUT YOU CAN’T FIX A CODING PROBLEM!!! Do not up your PC because DICE can’t fix anything and some guys tell you!!! ---
**Author:** ![ChocolateSteve](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e495f1/32.png) [@ChocolateSteve](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChocolateSteve)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/59 "2013-11-18T10:34:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Noodlesocks said:_ > There is no fix. The problem isn’t user end. Ultimately only dice can fix the crashing if they can be bothered. ---
**Author:** ![SoulAssassin808](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SoulAssassin808](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SoulAssassin808)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/60 "2013-11-18T10:35:00Z")
Sounds like a memory leak to me… Since my stuttering in not RAM related its not going to help. Just waiting for a patch to fix the CPU spikes… [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785.md?page=2) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785.md?page=4)