# Stuttering, Freezing, FPS drop - FIX **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [November 17, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785 "2013-11-17T17:50:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![the\_punisher\_ita](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/the_punisher_ita/32/107227_2.png) [@the\_punisher\_ita](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/the_punisher_ita)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/61 "2013-11-18T11:59:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _ChocolateSteve said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Noodlesocks said:_ > > There is no fix. The problem isn’t user end. Ultimately only dice can fix the crashing if they can be bothered. /this forever. ---
**Author:** ![fplayer94](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/c0e974/32.png) [@fplayer94](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/fplayer94)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 12:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/62 "2013-11-18T12:09:00Z")
Hello my friend, I did everything you said but.. 1. RAMMap uses 150MB memory. This is huge for me.(I am closing programs that i dont need or use to play BF4. even steam) 2. I disabled Pagefile. (I was using like this [https://i.imgur.com/Hp7In4B.png)](https://i.imgur.com/Hp7In4B.png%29) [[i.imgur.com](http://i.imgur.com)] tried to play BF4 then i got “Memory full. close programs bla bla” error. I didnt close anything then it closed chrome and origin itself. so i couldnt play BF4. now using 6GB pagefile 3. I dont even know if this is important but its happening. I was using my USB Flash Drive’s ReadyBosst thingy after this fix i got this error [[img8.imageshack.us](http://img8.imageshack.us)] (Not my SS, found it) Windows 7 x64 All updates done 4GB RAM ---
**Author:** ![LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LondonCitizen)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 1:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/63 "2013-11-18T13:07:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _fplayer94 said:_ > Hello my friend, I did everything you said but.. > > 1. RAMMap uses 150MB memory. This is huge for me.(I am closing programs that i dont need or use to play BF4. even steam) > 2. I disabled Pagefile. (I was using like this [https://i.imgur.com/Hp7In4B.png)](https://i.imgur.com/Hp7In4B.png%29) [[i.imgur.com](http://i.imgur.com)] tried to play BF4 then i got "Memory full. close programs bla bla" error. I didnt close anything then it closed chrome and origin itself. so i couldnt play BF4. now using 6GB pagefile > 3. I dont even know if this is important but its happening. I was using my USB Flash Drive’s ReadyBosst thingy after this fix i got this error > > [[img8.imageshack.us](http://img8.imageshack.us)] (Not my SS, found it) > > Windows 7 x64 All updates done > 4GB RAM Hello, It appears that if you have 4GB of RAM you cannot disable page file, BF4 needs more memory than 4GB which does not seem right as minimum requirements are listing 4GB. Obviously its 4GB + more in page file. I would re-enable prefetch settings and paging to original settings. ---
**Author:** ![BalazsKomjati](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ecb155/32.png) [@BalazsKomjati](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BalazsKomjati)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/64 "2013-11-18T19:51:00Z")
Hello All, I can also confirm that my CPU spikes are completely gone using LondonCitizen’s method. My framrate not improved singificantly, but gameplay is smooth, even when dropping to 30-40 FPS. I’m soo happy that it’s finally playable. What’s strange that my BF4.exe peaks memory usage at 2200MB, however most of you speaking of much more. And yes, I’m launching the x64 exe. My spec: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T AMD Radeon R9 280 3GB 6GB DDR2 Win8.1 64bit Settings: Mixed High-Ultra 1440X900 ---
**Author:** ![WARH3AD85](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@WARH3AD85](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WARH3AD85)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/65 "2013-11-18T20:26:00Z")
Didn’t worked for me 😕 ---
**Author:** ![LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LondonCitizen)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/66 "2013-11-18T22:00:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _EGY-Moustafa said:_ > Well, I enabled pagefile again but I also left Superfetch service enabled except Prefetch, it is still disabled.. > > "Zeroed" is eating my my memory really bad, not sure why or how to stop it from doing that, but here is a screenshot: > > [puu.sh] > > Any idea how to overcome this issue? > > EDITED: It is categorized under "Unused" - how to make that whole 2.4GB usable/free again? because my computer is hanging up from time to time because of it.. Hello Moustafa, I would recommend that you enable prefetch back to normal, when you edit same registry key just enter value of 1 and restart your PC. Try to have a look at following URL: [Archived MSDN and TechNet Blogs | Microsoft Learn](http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2010/08/13/introduction-to-the-new-sysinternals-tool-rammap.aspx) [[blogs.technet.com](http://blogs.technet.com)] It will show you some tricks with RAMMap. The good way to start is to go to File Summary and File details in RAMMap, you will be able to understand which files are loaded in your memory. If you say memory is zeroed it should suggest that memory is free and ready to be used, this is always normal thing after a fresh boot. However if the memory is not utilized at all and instead your pagefile is problem is somewhere else. I have similar problem where BF4 only take 1.8 - 2.2 GB of memory and rest is used as a cache repository for \*.CAS file content, however this is slightly different with you as it is not used at all. One trick with RAMMap is you need to always press refresh button after you do any change otherwise you will see old figures it does not refresh figures automatically. Enabled your prefetch back to normal restart PC start RAMMap, Start your BF4 then play for a few minutes switch your window to RAMMap, In RAMMap click on FIle and hit refresh option, then check Use counts, You should see Private usage - this will be used by BF4 process and mapped files this should be 2nd highest usage. Then go to File Summary and you will be able to see which files are loaded in your RAM. It would be great if you could post back your results. For all people which this work around didn’t work, do you have more than 4GB of RAM if yes have you disabled the Paging? I suspect that if you don’t disable paging emptying standby memory won’t have any effect. What is happening is that if you disable pagefile you will force BF4 to cache content to standby memory, which you can then clear with RAMMap. If you do not disable it BF4 will continue to load content into your pagefile. I do not know about any app which could clear of your cache content in pagefile, but if somebody does perhaps it might help. On the other hand you cant disable pagefile if you have 4GB RAM, so this won’t work for any users with 4GB RAM. It would be great to analyse contents of pagefile while you run BF4 perhaps it could be a new lead. Hello All, I done some more investigation around pagefile and cached content. I have not tested this and looking for any volunteers which could try this out. I cannot guarantee this will or can help but it would be interesting to see if it does make any difference . For all of those with 4GB of RAM where usage of pagefile is mandatory in order to run BF4 try to see if you can clear pagefile content. This option is not set a default on Win7 or Win8. Pagefile content is not being automatically cleared and can grow overtime. This option can be changed so Windows will automatically clear contents of your pagefile at each shutdown and it will rebuild your pagefile upon fresh start, leaving no cached content behind. This is how you do it. 1. Start Registry Editor (You will need admin rights) 2. HKEY\_LOCAL\_MACHINE \SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management 3. Right click ClearPageFileAtShutdown and select Modify 4. Set value to 1 5. Close registry editor, shutdown your system 6. Start your system, at this point your old pagefile content have been erased 7. Start BF4 and see if this had any effect. BF4 will try to rebuild cached content. Could you please post if you seen any difference or improvement. If it does not help or do any difference please change your settings back to original. This is not guaranteed fix rather just an idea which might not resolve a problem but to find out it needs to be tested. ---
**Author:** ![EGY-Sakka](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@EGY-Sakka](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EGY-Sakka)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/67 "2013-11-19T03:19:00Z")
I set everything back to default and applied the Clear Pagefile at shutdown to the registry, had a rush 64 players game on Dawn Breaker [Battle Report - Battlelog / Battlefield 4](http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/402633339627196096/275696164/) [[battlelog.battlefield.com](http://battlelog.battlefield.com)] There were no noticeable stuttering but gradual frame drops (not as annoying as SUDDEN stutter/frame drop) screenshots of results (After the round): [puu.sh] [puu.sh] I did not clear the standby list yet, but I will in case of any stutters/framedrops, so far so good, I’ll try other gamemodes and servers and post back. ---
**Author:** ![LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LondonCitizen)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/68 "2013-11-19T03:28:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _EGY-Moustafa said:_ > I set everything back to default and applied the Clear Pagefile at shutdown to the registry, had a rush 64 players game on Dawn Breaker > [Battle Report - Battlelog / Battlefield 4](http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/402633339627196096/275696164/) [[battlelog.battlefield.com](http://battlelog.battlefield.com)] > > There were no noticeable stuttering but gradual frame drops (not as annoying as SUDDEN stutter/frame drop) screenshots of results (After the round): > > [puu.sh] > > [puu.sh] > > I did not clear the standby list yet, but I will in case of any stutters/framedrops, so far so good, I’ll try other gamemodes and servers and post back. Sounds good, thanks for testing it. The RAMMap looks about right. When stuttering/freezing comes you can also empty working sets, modified page list and standby and standby priority lists. Remember that stuttering can come back, this does not mean method does not work you just need to switch back to empty those lists. Another player told me that latest NVidia drivers does not work well with 500 series cards, if you have 500 series card it might be driver version. By the looks of other people this does not seem to fix framerate issues only freezing stuttering, so something else will be needed to increase fps. ---
**Author:** ![EGY-Sakka](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@EGY-Sakka](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EGY-Sakka)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/69 "2013-11-19T03:35:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _LondonCitizen said:_ > Sounds good, thanks for testing it. > The RAMMap looks about right. When stuttering/freezing comes you can also empty working sets, modified page list and standby and standby priority lists. > Remember that stuttering can come back, this does not mean method does not work you just need to switch back to empty those lists. > > Another player told me that latest NVidia drivers does not work well with 500 series cards, if you have 500 series card it might be driver version. > By the looks of other people this does not seem to fix framerate issues only freezing stuttering, so something else will be needed to increase fps. I lock my FPS to 75 (v-sync), instead of stuttering and freezing the frames just gradually go down to 40~50 fps at random intervals (even if looking at the sky), I am using GTX 650 Ti so I don’t think there should be a problem with my fps (since I am running on lowest settings) There is something worth saying since you seem to be an expert in those stuff (most probably): when a round ends and I press on Quit the game would freeze in a black loading screen (probably the ‘saving’ screen) and it wont close down, when I switch to Battlelog it says “Transfering” and the game wont close down unless I terminate the process, which does something extremely weird; the game process doesn’t actually close.. If I go to details I can see it there “bf4.exe”, eating 1.5GB of my memory and when attempting to terminate, it says “Access Denied” and I am required to restart the whole PC (not just sign-out) for it to work again. ---
**Author:** ![IIISuBIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/cab0a1/32.png) [@IIISuBIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IIISuBIII)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/70 "2013-11-19T08:16:00Z")
My opinion/advice: Something broken in the latest patch, the “rainbow” blur effect is a sign that the rendering process broken thats why the FPS drops happened. If you have the stuttering/drops from the first day better to stay standby with your OS tweaks, you can mess up your system stability because the buggy BF4, wait until they drop down a nearly stable version. I will play my old friend BF3 until they solve the issues. ---
**Author:** ![BitesSC](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@BitesSC](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BitesSC)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/71 "2013-11-19T08:21:00Z")
Will try and post results. ---
**Author:** ![The-xQQx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/6de8d8/32.png) [@The-xQQx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/The-xQQx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/72 "2013-11-19T08:25:00Z")
I love these posts. Its not going to fix anything. Its your comp doing that or either the issue with the game. Changing any settings on comp or in game is not going to fix crashes that happen or fps/stutter issues. The only issue I have had so far was stutter with gameplay. I always play windowed fullscreen and went back to fullscreen and the issue stopped. All these issues people are having are: The game itself or The game having conflicts with peoples current computer hardware. I myself have been very lucky. I have had the game since Saturday and can still count on 1 hand how many crashes I have had. ---
**Author:** ![Lynx1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@Lynx1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lynx1)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/73 "2013-11-19T08:29:00Z")
Thanks, I will try that if I lose my patience. ---
**Author:** ![LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LondonCitizen)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/74 "2013-11-19T13:54:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Lynx1 said:_ > Thanks, I will try that if I lose my patience. Hello, Thanks all for your feedback. Moustafa your problem seems to be slightly different from mine, it looks like you just getting fps drops without freezing, it must be some sort of rendering issue. I just seen that new beta drivers are out on Nvidia’s site its 331.82 driver, they promise they will give fps boost for BF4. I’m downloading these at the moment and see if its actually going to improve anything. ---
**Author:** ![kr3des](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kr3des](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kr3des)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/75 "2013-11-19T14:03:00Z")
This did absolutely nothing, it didnt work at all. ---
**Author:** ![shankly1985](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/shankly1985/32/103448_2.png) [@shankly1985](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/shankly1985)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/76 "2013-11-19T14:06:00Z")
Disabling the page file is a bed thing to do, even if you have 100GB ram. If you dont understand why then dont touch it. [http://lifehacker.com/5426041/understanding-the-windows-pagefile-and-why-you-shouldnt-disable-it](http://lifehacker.com/5426041/understanding-the-windows-pagefile-and-why-you-shouldnt-disable-it) [[lifehacker.com](http://lifehacker.com)] ---
**Author:** ![toxic\_mix1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/toxic_mix1/32/107258_2.png) [@toxic\_mix1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/toxic_mix1)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/77 "2013-11-19T14:11:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _fplayer94 said:_ > Hello my friend, I did everything you said but.. > > 1. RAMMap uses 150MB memory. This is huge for me.(I am closing programs that i dont need or use to play BF4. even steam) > 2. I disabled Pagefile. (I was using like this [https://i.imgur.com/Hp7In4B.png)](https://i.imgur.com/Hp7In4B.png%29) [[i.imgur.com](http://i.imgur.com)] tried to play BF4 then i got "Memory full. close programs bla bla" error. I didnt close anything then it closed chrome and origin itself. so i couldnt play BF4. now using 6GB pagefile > 3. I dont even know if this is important but its happening. I was using my USB Flash Drive’s ReadyBosst thingy after this fix i got this error > > [[img8.imageshack.us](http://img8.imageshack.us)] (Not my SS, found it) > > Windows 7 x64 All updates done > 4GB RAM Dude, just buy more ram for fuck sake. 4gb is today day´s is pathetic, especcialy for a game like this. Don’t be cheap dude ---
**Author:** ![TEp-Misfortune](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@TEp-Misfortune](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEp-Misfortune)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/78 "2013-11-19T14:13:00Z")
Thanks 4 sharing! ---
**Author:** ![LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@LondonCitizen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LondonCitizen)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/79 "2013-11-19T14:15:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Kredes\_One said:_ > This did absolutely nothing, it didnt work at all. Hello Kredes, What are your symptoms, do you get freezes after certain amount of time? Could you post the specs please. Thanks. Shankly, 1 Best practice says to never disable pagefile, the other best practice says disable prefetching or paging on your SSD if you have plenty of RAM. These 2 approaches will be always in argue. The fact is if I enable pagefile I can’t play BF4 so for me its only chance on how to currently play the game. In fact if you keep pagefile enable I believe that emptying standby memory will have no effect at all as game resources will be cached into your pagefile where you cannot clear them without a reboot. I ran my PC without a pagefile for some time and did not had any problem with other applications., it can be always enabled back if there is a new patch out. And if this can at least fix few fellow players out there it will be time very well spent, good practice or not. ---
**Author:** ![toxic\_mix1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/toxic_mix1/32/107258_2.png) [@toxic\_mix1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/toxic_mix1)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/stuttering-freezing-fps-drop-fix/151785/80 "2013-11-19T14:20:00Z")
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