# Summer update

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 3, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327 "2020-06-03T14:40:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/21 "2020-06-03T18:20:00Z")

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> [@cashm0n3y08](#):
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> > [@IIMechatronikII](#):
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> > ![image](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/1/b/1b53df5142dc8630d398b42f1a76cdd7d043d861.jpeg) ![image](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/5/0/5008dfa33e4f6802c5eca03cdf978be48b47dd36.jpeg)
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> Having planes on the top desert map doesn’t seem like a good idea, it looks rather small, there’s bottleneck points where bombers can get multi-kills, and AA range is so long that it will cover the entire map, rather the bottom map looks like the map to have planes on, yet I don’t see any. Just my opinion.

Do they even have planes.? Cant see any slots.  
Al Marj look like a narrow cluster map where one team losses all but one flag.  
Provence looks interesting. Cant judge the size. Seems a little like Arras.

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**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/22 "2020-06-03T18:27:00Z")

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> [@SirBobdk](#):
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> Do they even have planes.? Cant see any slots.Al Marj look like a narrow cluster map where one team losses all but one flag.  
> Provence looks interesting. Cant judge the size. Seems a little like Arras.

Al Marj is infantry only.

Edit: also Chauchat!

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**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/23 "2020-06-03T18:28:00Z")

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> [@IIMechatronikII](#):
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> @SirBobdk  
> Maybe they fixed SAA, MAA or FF. Many times they made big changes and they didn’t mention about that in Patch Notes.

Hope so. But Its also ok if we get it later. Most importent is that they get it right and not just use the sledge hammer again and turn the balance in the wrong way once more making it no fun for infantry players.  
Both air and ground should find it fun and balanced.

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**Author:** ![CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ct1924/32/106572_2.png) [@CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CT1924)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/24 "2020-06-03T18:29:00Z")

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> [@SirBobdk](#):
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> Do they even have planes.? Cant see any slots.Al Marj look like a narrow cluster map where one team losses all but one flag.  
> Provence looks interesting. Cant judge the size. Seems a little like Arras.

But the buildings can’t be destroyed as much, and the town has fewer entrances on main bridges that are easier to defend.

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**Author:** ![IIMechatronikII](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/7feea3/32.png) [@IIMechatronikII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IIMechatronikII)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/25 "2020-06-03T18:31:00Z")

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> [@SirBobdk](#):
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> Do they even have planes.? Cant see any slots.  
> Al Marj look like a narrow cluster map where one team losses all but one flag.  
> Provence looks interesting. Cant judge the size. Seems a little like Arras.

I might be wrong but:

-Al Marj Encampment is small clusterf.. map without vehicles. Maybe some transport like in Marite. It’s also linear map, so in my opinion this map will be unbalanced

- Provence is average size map. I’m surprised that they add 4 tanks (per side?) on this map. This map will not get planes. Again pretty lazy move from DICE

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**Author:** ![Porter3KK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/b5e925/32.png) [@Porter3KK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Porter3KK)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/26 "2020-06-03T18:32:00Z")

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Oh god nice thank you

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**Author:** ![Terminator000001](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Terminator000001](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Terminator000001)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/27 "2020-06-03T18:33:00Z")

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> [@SirBobdk](#):
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> > > That’s a big question but I guess if nothing else is mentioned we will have 6 specs Shermans and 6 specs Corsairs against 4 specs german vehicles.
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> > There will be Mustangs coming for europe. And both Bf109s get a rebalance.
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> Hahahaha more fighters people wont use.

I will. 🦆

I don´t give a damn about AA´s. I want my dogfights.

> [@cashm0n3y08](#):
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> > [@IIMechatronikII](#):
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> > ![image](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/1/b/1b53df5142dc8630d398b42f1a76cdd7d043d861.jpeg) ![image](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/5/0/5008dfa33e4f6802c5eca03cdf978be48b47dd36.jpeg)
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> Having planes on the top desert map doesn’t seem like a good idea, it looks rather small, there’s bottleneck points where bombers can get multi-kills, and AA range is so long that it will cover the entire map, rather the bottom map looks like the map to have planes on, yet I don’t see any. Just my opinion.

The desert map will be infantry only.

> [@almothana11](#):
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> > [@CT1924](#):
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> > Don’t shermans have more specializations than something like s Panzer 4?
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> We’ll have to wait until the update comes out before judging this but I doubt Shermans will have an upper hand against German tanks  
> What does a Sherman have that a Panzer 4 doesn’t have?
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> Engine upgrade, Zoom optics, 10% more fire-rate etc…
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> It doesn’t seem a big advantage to me
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> and ofc Shermans wouldn’t win a 1v1 fight against a Tiger

The Sherman can have an upgraded main cannon.

And a Staghound is already able to beat a Tiger. I wouldn´t hold my breath on that.

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**Author:** ![THERAMPAGE\_ci0h](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@THERAMPAGE\_ci0h](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/THERAMPAGE_ci0h)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/28 "2020-06-03T18:34:00Z")

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It’s cool they add iconic fighters  
Could be cool if we could actualy fly them …  
If no AA / fliegerfaust nerf vs fighters comes with this patch, it will be bomber paradise …

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**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/29 "2020-06-03T18:35:00Z")

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> [@Terminator000001](#):
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> I will. 🦆
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> I don´t give a damn about AA´s. I want my dogfights.

Same. I’m looking forwards to giving them a spin.

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**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/30 "2020-06-03T18:51:00Z")

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@Terminator000001  
@ElliotLH  
So will I. Fighters have been my favorite class and I would guess I can still do good even after the buff of AA,  
Have not tried it, since I got the chance of using the Stuka and Mosquito without having to worrie about fighters.  
It has been a nice change, but when I get tired I will return to fighters.

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**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/31 "2020-06-03T18:56:00Z")

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Can’t complain I guess.

2 new maps and 6 more guns is nice.

I’m glad Provence is becoming 64 players. Although the outer areas I’m pretty sure are just open fields with a couple of houses, like Twisted Steel. I’ll stick to the village area similar to Sinai Desert.

Any of these guns interesting?

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**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/32 "2020-06-03T19:01:00Z")

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> [@SirBobdk](#):
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> @Terminator000001  
> @ElliotLH So will I. Fighters have been my favorite class and I would guess I can still do good even after the buff of AA,  
> Have not tried it, since I got the chance of using the Stuka and Mosquito without having to worrie about fighters.  
> It has been a nice change, but when I get tired I will return to fighters.

I saw you mention that you’ve been using those recently so I’m glad you’re having fun with them. I’m sure that you’ll do well when you do come back to the fighters as well man.

\*Edit: Thinking about it I wonder how this will affect the maps where it’s still UK vs GER?

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**Author:** ![Terminator000001](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Terminator000001](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Terminator000001)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/33 "2020-06-03T19:13:00Z")

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> [@SirBobdk](#):
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> @Terminator000001  
> @ElliotLH  
> So will I. Fighters have been my favorite class and I would guess I can still do good even after the buff of AA,  
> Have not tried it, since I got the chance of using the Stuka and Mosquito without having to worrie about fighters.  
> It has been a nice change, but when I get tired I will return to fighters.

I haven´t played much in general the last few weeks. But I can´t give up what I love. And that are planes and the act of flying. 🦆

I just wish bombers were never introduced in Battlefield. They were a mistake. I already said that, when people were crying for that since BF3. If Dice would´ve actually listened for once, then maybe we wouldn´t be here, where we´re now. We can at least hope that Dice won´t put bombers ever again in a Battlefield.

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**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/34 "2020-06-03T19:18:00Z")

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> [@Terminator000001](#):
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> I haven´t played much in general the last few weeks. But I can´t give up what I love. And that are planes and the act of flying. 🦆
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> I just wish bombers were never introduced in Battlefield. They were a mistake. I already said that, when people were crying for that since BF3. If Dice would´ve actually listened for once, then maybe we wouldn´t be here, where we´re now. We can at least hope that Dice won´t put bombers ever again in a Battlefield.

To be honest I’ve not played much myself either unfortunately, just a few matches here and there but c’est la vie.

I agree that bombers have caused a lot of issue but it’s obviously too late now to change that. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what they do with the next game, but I can see them including them again.

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**Author:** ![JediMastaWyn](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jedimastawyn/32/102384_2.png) [@JediMastaWyn](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JediMastaWyn)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/35 "2020-06-03T19:26:00Z")

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I saw on the YouTube reports that Twisted steel and panzerstorm are being repurposed for the Americans. Is this a map re imagining like time of day, weather etc or just throwing the brits off? Not sure how I feel about that

Secondly why no content for the allies, where’s the typhoon fighter bomber or Focke-wulf 190 for axis

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**Author:** ![doctorrocktor](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/doctorrocktor/32/101751_2.png) [@doctorrocktor](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/doctorrocktor)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/36 "2020-06-03T19:40:00Z")

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I take it we will now have shermans on panzerstorm.

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**Author:** ![doctorrocktor](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/doctorrocktor/32/101751_2.png) [@doctorrocktor](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/doctorrocktor)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/37 "2020-06-03T19:42:00Z")

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Add a bit of snow to panzerstorm,make it feel a bit like the bulge.

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**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/38 "2020-06-03T20:29:00Z")

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Happy to see the return of Al Soondan to the playlist.

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**Author:** ![llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/llphantom_limbll/32/102656_2.png) [@llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/llPhantom_Limbll)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/39 "2020-06-03T21:51:00Z")

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> [@Noodlesocks](#):
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> Happy to see the return of Al Soondan to the playlist.

I have a feeling tomorrow Pacific playlist will be replaced with “western front” one with all new and updated maps.

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**Author:** ![Nic727\_1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/nic727_1/32/108657_2.png) [@Nic727\_1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Nic727_1)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/summer-update/258327/40 "2020-06-03T21:51:00Z")

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Why we still don’t have Assault weapon for Japan?

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