# Support Class was annihilated **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 21, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714 "2016-11-21T15:11:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Weyne](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/71e660/32.png) [@Weyne](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Weyne)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/1 "2016-11-21T15:11:00Z")
Let’s compare Support class in Battlefield 1 with other games in the series. Support was destroyed in this game. There are no mines (like Claymore), there is not a grenade launcher, there is no dynamite and the weapons do little damage. The “Bar M1918” it was one of the few good weapons. Few bullets but good damage. But after this last update, the weapon was terrible. Are four to five shots to kill an opponent. If it was to end the Support class, why did not you delete the class in the game? Delete the Support and place the ammo box with the Assault class. ---
**Author:** ![Smaisteri](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/smaisteri/32/103529_2.png) [@Smaisteri](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Smaisteri)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/2 "2016-11-21T15:16:00Z")
I’m almost fine with the weapons but the gadgets are boooriiing. Only viable ones are the mortar which is just cheesy and the limpet charge which is uber situational and even then its effectiveness is questionable at best. ---
**Author:** ![ZombieP1ow](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zombiep1ow/32/104199_2.png) [@ZombieP1ow](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ZombieP1ow)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 3:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/3 "2016-11-21T15:17:00Z")
Limpet mine. Sure, it’s not a Ronco set-it-and-forget-it weapon, but it’s a mine. I stopped using the BAR because it just runs out of ammo too fast, the other LMGs are fine, if you use them correctly. ---
**Author:** ![DisfunkD86](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/disfunkd86/32/101732_2.png) [@DisfunkD86](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DisfunkD86)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/4 "2016-11-21T15:18:00Z")
i don’t think this is a conspiracy 🙂 i think its a misunderstood class… people shouldn’t play support expecting to frag on the same level as assault.. its all in the name .. suppression supportive fire.. if ever the day this game had really good public teamplay support would be valuable.. as a one man army no advised ---
**Author:** ![john\_leslies\_cok](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/john_leslies_cok/32/100960_2.png) [@john\_leslies\_cok](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/john_leslies_cok)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/5 "2016-11-21T15:24:00Z")
^ yep this guy talks sense! The class is no good for charging in but at midrange it’s great, yeah you don’t have c4 anymore but unlimited limpit mines, unlimited nades & the mortar. Because you can resupply yourself in seconds having another Hellriegel at your disposal would just be OP. Maybe try playing the class as ‘support’ rather than assault? ---
**Author:** ![GerocK](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gerock/32/100950_2.png) [@GerocK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GerocK)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/6 "2016-11-21T15:24:00Z")
I have 0 problems with this Class; one of my last sessions (7 games) was as Support and I had 1,060 SPM, 3.0 K/D and 44 kills/game (battlefieldtracker). ---
**Author:** ![TheBaitOne](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thebaitone/32/103764_2.png) [@TheBaitOne](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheBaitOne)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/7 "2016-11-21T15:27:00Z")
Support has certainly received a tremendous nerf compared to previous battlefield titles where light machineguns, although unwieldy, could lay down the same DPM as ARs while at the same time the Support was extremely dangerous to armour at close range. Now we have, poor accuracy, poor DPM and a significantly reduced capacity to take on vehicles. Think back to previous battlefields where a LMG set up in a good spot with a bipod could be a force to be reckoned with. DICE can beat around the bush as much as they want by tweaking spread patterns but until they fix the actual issue (abysmal performance at all ranges) the LMGs are going to be lackluster weapons. ---
**Author:** ![Botji](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Botji](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Botji)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/8 "2016-11-21T15:38:00Z")
> [@DisfunkD86](#): > > i don’t think this is a conspiracy 🙂 i think its a misunderstood class… people shouldn’t play support expecting to frag on the same level as assault.. its all in the name .. suppression supportive fire.. if ever the day this game had really good public teamplay support would be valuable.. as a one man army no advised Even if you play support expecting to “support” the team with things like suppression, you might as well play Medic and do an even better job at it. The number of times I have been killed by snipers/medics that I am covering in bullets is frankly quite absurd. The suppression effect is not very effective against any of the rifle weapons, likely due to them being so accurate from the start = less affected by suppression. . Aaaand.. yeah, suppressing assaults is kinda useless, either they are far away and dont do anything even without suppression or they are close enough that suppression doesnt matter anyway. Tbh the only class that suppression actually “works” against is other supports, the LMGs are not accurate from the start and once they are suppressed any sort of accuracy goes out the window, even when prone. Which takes me back to the start of this, then you might as well support as a Medic because even one shot from a medic puts you under a heavy suppressed state. . Imo suppression should be reworked and im going to make a post about it now because its been irritating me since beta. ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/9 "2016-11-21T15:39:00Z")
We can rename them into Ammo pack mules. I am still fond of the MG15 though ---
**Author:** ![lerki0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lerki0/32/102630_2.png) [@lerki0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lerki0)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/10 "2016-11-21T15:46:00Z")
I’ve found the bipod weapons with the scopes on to be most effective. Not too sure where the trench style weapons are supposed to fit in though although you can get kills with them if your opponent doesn’t notice you. Mortar didn’t really need a nerf in my opinion but obviously DICE felt different. The limpet mine is superb though especially paired with the light AT grenade you can do a lot of damage to armour with this combo. Lets face it the ability to replenish ammo is a major part of the game second only to medic in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![j0ndav](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/j0ndav/32/102340_2.png) [@j0ndav](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/j0ndav)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/11 "2016-11-21T15:51:00Z")
Personally i think that it’s not that support is not useable now, but rather that the support class was stupidly good (and easy) in previous titles. Now the support class is much closer to what it always should have been. You want to kill everything on the front line? Play assault. Clue is in the name… ---
**Author:** ![oJU5T1No](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/a88e57/32.png) [@oJU5T1No](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/oJU5T1No)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/12 "2016-11-21T16:07:00Z")
> [@j0ndav](#): > > You want to kill everything on the front line? Play assault. Clue is in the name… If you want to kill anything at any range play another class. ---
**Author:** ![squedage](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@squedage](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/squedage)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/13 "2016-11-21T16:19:00Z")
MG 15 storm = the new BAR you should give it a try. Can you play rambo like in other bf games… NO and good. The biggest problem right now is that so many people playing support right now only know the bf3-4 rambo support. Go back and play the bf2 support before the PKM buff and you will see that bf1 and bf2 support are almost the same. They both def play the same and that is… support. You are there to help your team/squad not to be the lead killer and front run and gun person like assault or the long range like scout or medic. Your the middle man that keeps people from shooting back as your guys move in to kill the enemy. TO many people are using the BAR as a cruch and not thinking of the roll that support is. MG 15/Lewis gun/madsen these are what people need to look at the guns that can put alot of lead in the air at a time and do it fast. Be happy with the assist and the suppression and getting points off ammo and respawns. Dont charge in and try to duke it out with assualt and play smart and fight good cover and a place were you can sit still take good aim and let the round fly. You start doing this and will see that support will win most of the fights and med range becasue you will out shoot and have more rounds on target. And thank god the mortars are nerfed. Now the lempet mine can be seen for what it is GREAT. ---
**Author:** ![j0ndav](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/j0ndav/32/102340_2.png) [@j0ndav](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/j0ndav)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/14 "2016-11-21T16:22:00Z")
> [@oJU5T1No](#): > > > [@j0ndav](#): > > > > You want to kill everything on the front line? Play assault. Clue is in the name… > > If you want to kill anything at any range play another class. It can kill, maybe not as well as they used to in BF4 , but they were far too strong in that game. If it’s that bad for you why worry, just play another class. To be honest i HIGHLY doubt if people actually play support because they love to give out ammo. In my opinion people played it because histrically it was very easy to use with 200 round AR’s and had some silly gadgets for cheap kills. I know people will come on to defend the class, but just answer this - WHY do you play support? I do agree though that the support class as a whole in this particular game outclassed. Unless you like to give out ammo. Which most dont.. ---
**Author:** ![Weyne](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/71e660/32.png) [@Weyne](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Weyne)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/15 "2016-11-21T16:25:00Z")
The Support class should at least have good weapons, as in other games in the series. Hardline’s weapons are good: FN FAL, SCAR-H, SG 510, SA-58 OSW. . In Battlefield 4, besides the weapons of the class have good damage (M60E4, M240B, PKP Pecheneg), all classes can use carbines (ACW-R, ACE-52, ACE-21, MTAR-21, A-91), which are excellent. ---
**Author:** ![GreyHound5011](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/greyhound5011/32/102122_2.png) [@GreyHound5011](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GreyHound5011)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/16 "2016-11-21T16:36:00Z")
> [@j0ndav](#): > > > [@oJU5T1No](#): > > > > > [@j0ndav](#): > > > > > > You want to kill everything on the front line? Play assault. Clue is in the name… > > > > If you want to kill anything at any range play another class. > > It can kill, maybe not as well as they used to in BF4 , but they were far too strong in that game. > > If it’s that bad for you why worry, just play another class. To be honest i HIGHLY doubt if people actually play support because they love to give out ammo. In my opinion people played it because histrically it was very easy to use with 200 round AR’s and had some silly gadgets for cheap kills. I know people will come on to defend the class, but just answer this - WHY do you play support? > > I do agree though that the support class as a whole in this particular game outclassed. Unless you like to give out ammo. Which most dont.. I play support because my theory in how to win a firefight in bf1 is very simple. Have the most bullets and you win and for me it works I usually have the most kills on my team because I play support as assault and I drop ammo Everytime I need it which I need it often so if people follow my path of carnage they will find ammo along the trail. Also the Limpet Charge is a wonderful gadet. ---
**Author:** ![Decado\_Killer](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/decado_killer/32/101677_2.png) [@Decado\_Killer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Decado_Killer)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/17 "2016-11-21T16:39:00Z")
all the weapon’s still need tweaks and tripwires need to be returned along with the mortar nerf removed its made it useless. ---
**Author:** ![r0nin\_Ts](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/48db29/32.png) [@r0nin\_Ts](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/r0nin_Ts)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/18 "2016-11-21T16:50:00Z")
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**Author:** ![j0shimi](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/j0shimi/32/102342_2.png) [@j0shimi](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/j0shimi)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/19 "2016-11-21T16:51:00Z")
> [@DisfunkD86](#): > > i don’t think this is a conspiracy 🙂 i think its a misunderstood class… people shouldn’t play support expecting to frag on the same level as assault.. its all in the name .. suppression supportive fire.. if ever the day this game had really good public teamplay support would be valuable.. as a one man army no advised This guy knows! Plus that limpet, that little baby is a beast. ---
**Author:** ![lerki0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lerki0/32/102630_2.png) [@lerki0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lerki0)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714/20 "2016-11-21T16:53:00Z")
> [@Lcamtuff](#): > > To ex-BAR users after update - M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic for long range & Huot for close/medium range ^^ The BAR Telescopic is actually still fantastic [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-class-was-annihilated/102714.md?page=2)