# Symthic Battlefield 1 weapon stats

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 12, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478 "2016-10-12T20:59:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/61 "2017-09-08T18:45:00Z")

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> [@realkelach](#):
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> Any news on when Symthic will get updated with new weapons?

Possibly after the weapon rebalance is finalized and hits retail.

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**Author:** ![DIAV0L](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/9de0a6/32.png) [@DIAV0L](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DIAV0L)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 10:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/62 "2017-09-09T10:38:00Z")

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> [@realkelach](#):
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> Any news on when Symthic will get updated with new weapons?

From Miffyli:

> [@](#):
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> Unfortunately I have not been able to work on these yet and can’t update things during weekend, so hopefully we have new stats on Sunday/Monday.

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**Author:** ![aarp-19Crib](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@aarp-19Crib](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/aarp-19Crib)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/63 "2017-11-23T15:10:00Z")

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> [@IM4givn](#):
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> Looking at the weapon stats and comparing those to the stats on the new iPad app someone is incorrect. There are a lot of guns where the damage numbers are incorrect.

Trust Symthic.

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**Author:** ![vcm0x](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/vcm0x/32/103978_2.png) [@vcm0x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/vcm0x)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/64 "2017-12-12T13:26:00Z")

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hope to see the new guns on symthic soon.

i’m not big on unlocking weapons so if the new ones aren’t any better than the ones i’m using now, i can breathe a sigh of relief and just skip them.

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**Author:** ![bleachee](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ce73a5/32.png) [@bleachee](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bleachee)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/65 "2017-12-19T14:17:00Z")

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Can anyone explain the “Time to Live” stat from the Symthic data tables?

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**Author:** ![DIAV0L](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/9de0a6/32.png) [@DIAV0L](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DIAV0L)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/66 "2017-12-19T23:31:00Z")

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> [@bleachee](#):
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> Can anyone explain the “Time to Live” stat from the Symthic data tables?

It’s how long (in seconds) a projectile “lives” until dissapears i.e. bullet will travel X seconds, then dissapear.

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**Author:** ![MarxistDictator](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/marxistdictator/32/102751_2.png) [@MarxistDictator](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MarxistDictator)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/67 "2017-12-20T23:02:00Z")

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Is there any plans to put the C93 Carbine in the browser? Can’t find it anywhere. The extended MLE is there and so are the new TT guns but still no meme carbine.

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**Author:** ![bleachee](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ce73a5/32.png) [@bleachee](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bleachee)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/68 "2018-01-23T14:32:00Z")

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> [@DIAV0L](#):
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> > [@bleachee](#):
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> > Can anyone explain the “Time to Live” stat from the Symthic data tables?
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> It’s how long (in seconds) a projectile “lives” until dissapears i.e. bullet will travel X seconds, then dissapear.

Thanks. I assumed projectiles traveled until impacting an object or the end of the map. This explains why shotguns have a much lower value.

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**Author:** ![twistedtormentor](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@twistedtormentor](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/twistedtormentor)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/69 "2018-01-24T23:10:00Z")

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The hellriegle is a lil much i just went against a team where nearly everyone had it 60 rounds is to much they out ammo everyone all they have to do is spray and pray cause everyone else has to reload

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**Author:** ![Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/khronikos/32/102498_2.png) [@Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Khronikos)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/70 "2018-02-01T21:30:00Z")

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> [@twistedtormentor](#):
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> The hellriegle is a lil much i just went against a team where nearly everyone had it 60 rounds is to much they out ammo everyone all they have to do is spray and pray cause everyone else has to reload

It’s always been the noobiest weapon in the game bar none. And all they ever had to do balance wise is give it more recoil. These guys have other intentions with this update. IT IS NOT HARD TO BALANCE WEAPONS. People are just not very creative at their jobs.

And how hard would it have been to up the recoil on the Hell? There was no need for this TTK patch. Weapon stats are easily manipulated. This whole thing is BS meant to garner support from streamers and COD players.

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**Author:** ![NANACHl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@NANACHl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NANACHl)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/71 "2018-02-16T09:57:00Z")

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> [@Khronikos](#):
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> > [@twistedtormentor](#):
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> > IS NOT HARD TO BALANCE WEAPONS.
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> Maybe if you have only 1 kind of weapon or maximum of 2 weapons it is not hard,it is not easy either but it is doable.  
> But lets say you have 5 weapons A,B,C,D,E  
> A-B  
> A-C  
> A-D  
> A-E  
> B-C  
> B-D  
> B-E  
> C-D  
> C-E  
> D-E
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> As you can imagine as the number of weapons goes up,it is harder and harder to balance them to each other but more importantly there is not just  
> Rate of fire,Damage
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> There is playstyle,bullet speed,recoil,bullet spread,bullet range,damage change after X,reload speed,magazine size,sweet spot(most important for scouts),hipfire,aim fire,movement recoil spread and accuracy,bipods,sights
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> And TTK does not tell the whole story
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> For example MG 1917 has some of worst TTK ingame but I would not dare to call it bad weapon because it does shoot like laser and is my favorite weapon ingame.
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> In your example you believe recoil will make hellriegel less noob friendly but actually what happens to you is hell user kills you with hipfire and there is good chance he will also shoot you from behind,recoil change will do nothing to solve this.  
> Hell TTK is inferior to many guns ingame so if you get killed head on head maybe train your aim a little
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> At long range It is already not good weapon,you can throw any ammount of recoil at it,people who want to kill you at medium+ will use ribeyeroll or something more suitable like lmg or rsc
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> I do not see any issue with Hell,just compare it to LMG and it is not such huge offender anymore. It is king of no range,overheats pretty quickly and is good just for flanking but you can as well add recoil to knife attacks that are also good for flanking
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> I did the kills for defender version but sadly i do not like mines so I do not have 120ammo version yet to talk from experience there. Pretty sure it is same thing with more recoil until bipoded

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**Author:** ![briarjmoor396](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@briarjmoor396](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/briarjmoor396)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/72 "2018-02-23T03:10:00Z")

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You made things werse

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**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 3:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/73 "2018-02-23T03:12:00Z")

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> [@briarjmoor396](#):
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> You made things werse

Symthic did? @Miffyli you ruined Battlefield apparently.

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**Author:** ![RockyMtn19](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/9fc29f/32.png) [@RockyMtn19](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RockyMtn19)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/74 "2018-02-23T07:38:00Z")

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Yeet it’s my first comment

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**Author:** ![AaMETAGROSSaA](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@AaMETAGROSSaA](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AaMETAGROSSaA)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 4:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/75 "2018-06-28T04:49:00Z")

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The general Liu’s alternate fire mode has a sweet spot mechanic. From the couple kills I got I would say it is around 75m

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**Author:** ![Roy57on](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/roy57on/32/103312_2.png) [@Roy57on](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Roy57on)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2018, 11:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/76 "2018-07-29T11:22:00Z")

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> [@AaMETAGROSSaA](#):
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> The general Liu’s alternate fire mode has a sweet spot mechanic. From the couple kills I got I would say it is around 75m

Most sources say it is the same as the Gewehr 98 (80m - 120m). But I haven’t seen hard proof to confirm.

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**Author:** ![kna5041](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ecccb3/32.png) [@kna5041](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kna5041)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/77 "2018-09-30T03:08:00Z")

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Hope to see the stats posted the alternate fire modes on some weapons have been driving me nuts.

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**Author:** ![LotusJJ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/c67d28/32.png) [@LotusJJ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LotusJJ)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/78 "2018-11-08T19:26:00Z")

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We need Arditi Dagfer

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**Author:** ![BI\_0NDlE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bi_0ndle/32/101330_2.png) [@BI\_0NDlE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BI_0NDlE)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/symthic-battlefield-1-weapon-stats/102478/79 "2018-11-30T21:40:00Z")

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bf1 is not my fav game

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