The Chat filter is out of control

[Hawxxeye]

@stny72

@Braddock512

I’ve sent an email about the words in the last page or so to the anti-toxicty team (that is working on the filter).

I can say I’ve gotten feedback on the word clan. It’s currently blocked because the POLISH version of the word “clan” is “klan” which is, of course, in English related to a right-wing hate group.

-Braddock512

Not every word is racist just because some racist groups use it. Scottish, Irish have used the term ‘clan’ for centuries. This is getting ridiculous.

My clan leader heard from sources that at least the clan with C will be whitelisted at some point, just not the K one.

[Red_Label_Scotch]

@Hawxxeye

@stny72

@Braddock512

I’ve sent an email about the words in the last page or so to the anti-toxicty team (that is working on the filter).

I can say I’ve gotten feedback on the word clan. It’s currently blocked because the POLISH version of the word “clan” is “klan” which is, of course, in English related to a right-wing hate group.

-Braddock512

Not every word is racist just because some racist groups use it. Scottish, Irish have used the term ‘clan’ for centuries. This is getting ridiculous.

My clan leader heard from sources that at least the clan with C will be whitelisted at some point, just not the K one.

During BF4, they had no problem using the term, “Clan Tags.” Just check the BF4 forums.

[losthunter340]

@Hawxxeye

@stny72

@Braddock512

I’ve sent an email about the words in the last page or so to the anti-toxicty team (that is working on the filter).

I can say I’ve gotten feedback on the word clan. It’s currently blocked because the POLISH version of the word “clan” is “klan” which is, of course, in English related to a right-wing hate group.

-Braddock512

Not every word is racist just because some racist groups use it. Scottish, Irish have used the term ‘clan’ for centuries. This is getting ridiculous.

My clan leader heard from sources that at least the clan with C will be whitelisted at some point, just not the K one.

Fair enough, “Klan” is the Swedish word for Clan and some word in Swedish are also cencored and I wonder why due to it is DICE Sweden who make the game as far as I know but I take it due to the english client.

[Matty101yttam]

@Carbonic

@Red_Label_Scotch

@Carbonic

I can understand if you lack information in general, but in this specific case I don’t see what more you want - I guess they could make a blog about coding a chat filter but of all the developer blogs I can imagine that’s probably one of the more boring ones and there’s already a ton of resources out there on coding chat filters already.

There’s already a ton of resources out there on coding chat filters already…So, given that this is the case…why does the one that EA uses function so poorly?

You say it functions “so poorly” but I doubt the majority of players even know the filtering is there. It ofc. seem worse if you are a forumfielder because you see all the fun examples of it not working on here or if you are a generally toxic person.

If have a lot of experience in coding, configuring and deploying worldwide enterprise multi-language almost real-time word and sentence filtering solutions spread across multiple products and platforms I’m sure you can apply for a job.

Your joking right…anyone who’s tried to use the chat knows how bad it is, you just need to you know…look at the chat to see all the asterisks and then follow up of frustrated comments and repeated messages trying to get round the filter(and yes they all end up getting their message across, even the toxic people…who for the record are actually the people this system least affects because they actually figure out how to get around it early on).

Also no need for the second line, when people have used things so often like this they don’t need to be an expert to know when something isn’t working as it should. You don’t need to be an automotive expert to know that your car is making weird sounds or when a “chat” tool keeps spitting out asterisks instead of words.

[LOLGotYerTags]

@cajjpants

It is, from the ground up, a totally pointless thing to implement. Disable chat by default, if people are getting offended then they won’t see it.

And that solution isnt viable if players want to communicate through team chat about a flank for example.

[llPhantom_Limbll]

@LOLGotYerTags

@cajjpants

It is, from the ground up, a totally pointless thing to implement. Disable chat by default, if people are getting offended then they won’t see it.

And that solution isnt viable if players want to communicate through team chat about a flank for example.

But people on consoles do that just fine without chat. If Dice can’t find better solution just remove chat option altogether in the next BF game. It’s way easier compared to all these broken filters and censoring harmless words.

[Pimp_SWE]

@Braddock512

I’ve sent an email about the words in the last page or so to the anti-toxicty team (that is working on the filter).

I can say I’ve gotten feedback on the word clan. It’s currently blocked because the POLISH version of the word “clan” is “klan” which is, of course, in English related to a right-wing hate group.

-Braddock512

Swedish as well

[LOLGotYerTags]

@llPhantom_Limbll

@LOLGotYerTags

@cajjpants

It is, from the ground up, a totally pointless thing to implement. Disable chat by default, if people are getting offended then they won’t see it.

And that solution isnt viable if players want to communicate through team chat about a flank for example.

But people on consoles do that just fine without chat. If Dice can’t find better solution just remove chat option altogether in the next BF game. It’s way easier compared to all these broken filters and censoring harmless words.

No idea how its done on consoles but on pc I’ll often use team chat to warn of flanks if I happen to die in an area that is being used to flank behind my team.

Better solution is to have both a whitelist and blacklist if there absolutely needs to be a chat filter.

Thing is, it takes time, especially if there is some form of AI in charge of the filter or its scripted in such a way as to censor unnecessary words/combination of words

[Red_Label_Scotch]

Your joking right…anyone who’s tried to use the chat knows how bad it is, you just need to you know…look at the chat to see all the asterisks and then follow up of frustrated comments and repeated messages trying to get round the filter(and yes they all end up getting their message across, even the toxic people…who for the record are actually the people this system least affects because they actually figure out how to get around it early on).

Also no need for the second line, when people have used things so often like this they don’t need to be an expert to know when something isn’t working as it should. You don’t need to be an automotive expert to know that your car is making weird sounds or when a “chat” tool keeps spitting out asterisks instead of words.

Yeah. It was pretty snarky.

[Hawxxeye]

@LOLGotYerTags

@llPhantom_Limbll

@LOLGotYerTags

@cajjpants

It is, from the ground up, a totally pointless thing to implement. Disable chat by default, if people are getting offended then they won’t see it.

And that solution isnt viable if players want to communicate through team chat about a flank for example.

But people on consoles do that just fine without chat. If Dice can’t find better solution just remove chat option altogether in the next BF game. It’s way easier compared to all these broken filters and censoring harmless words.

No idea how its done on consoles but on pc I’ll often use team chat to warn of flanks if I happen to die in an area that is being used to flank behind my team.

Better solution is to have both a whitelist and blacklist if there absolutely needs to be a chat filter.

Thing is, it takes time, especially if there is some form of AI in charge of the filter or its scripted in such a way as to censor unnecessary words/combination of words

Yeah I also warn for flanks on chat too. One of the main reasons I moved to PC after BF3 is the chat.
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But really why do we have to be the ones to beta test that junky A.I.? Being in a situation where we are basically paying for an eternal beta test seems to be the pattern in BFV