# The Complain about "netcode" thread **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 30, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986 "2017-04-30T21:01:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/101 "2017-05-01T13:49:00Z")
> [@hkadiri](#): > > > [@xenome111](#): > > > > [https://twitter.com/Striterax\_/status/855652824801300480](https://twitter.com/Striterax_/status/855652824801300480) > > Now u guys happy. > > But we need servers in north africa 😢 So pester DICE about it. How do you think other people are getting servers tested in their specific regions? ---
**Author:** ![ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/proassassin2003/32/103170_2.png) [@ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ProAssassin2003)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/102 "2017-05-01T13:49:00Z")
Its so funny seeing everybody argue about the Netcode. I predicted this when they first announced the Netcode changes. I created a thread saying UH OH DICE are messing with Netcode again. The Fact of the matter is the Netcode was in a solid place before the spring patch and nobody was complaining. But DICE did what they always do and break something that wasn’t broken. I have zero packet loss with ping 80 to 90 ping and I have been rarely getting no hit markers. The point is DICE shouldn’t have F with the Netcode as none of this was happening before Spring patch. ---
**Author:** ![dbibby1988](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/45deac/32.png) [@dbibby1988](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dbibby1988)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/103 "2017-05-01T13:49:00Z")
Im getting a constant 40-50ms, no symbols at the side and finding most of my shots just arent connecting. Im even getting beasted at distance by 100+ms with the helreigel. I dont know where all this talk of people with high pingers are at a disadvantage is coming from. Ive quit every game Ive played so far today. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/104 "2017-05-01T13:51:00Z")
> [@ProAssassin2003](#): > > Its so funny seeing everybody argue about the Netcode. I predicted this when they first announced the Netcode changes. I created a thread saying UH OH DICE are messing with Netcode again. > > The Fact of the matter is the Netcode was in a solid place before the spring patch and nobody was complaining. But DICE did what they always do and break something that wasn’t broken. I have zero packet loss with ping 80 to 90 ping and I have been rarely getting no hit markers. > > The point is DICE shouldn’t have F with the Netcode as none of this was happening before Spring patch. Again - if you’re not lagging (because it happens to low ping players to) and are getting no hits registered, that’s a known bug that has nothing to do with the netcode. If I can play with 120ms way OOR and still register hits with three different weapon types - it’s not the netcode that’s causing no hit reg. ---
**Author:** ![hkadiri](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/57b2e6/32.png) [@hkadiri](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/hkadiri)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/105 "2017-05-01T13:51:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@hkadiri](#): > > > > > [@xenome111](#): > > > > > > [https://twitter.com/Striterax\_/status/855652824801300480](https://twitter.com/Striterax_/status/855652824801300480) > > > Now u guys happy. > > > > But we need servers in north africa 😢 > > So pester DICE about it. How do you think other people are getting servers tested in their specific regions? Do you think they will listen to me alone ? i need a BUNCH of people ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/106 "2017-05-01T13:52:00Z")
> [@hkadiri](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@hkadiri](#): > > > > > > > [@xenome111](#): > > > > > > > > [https://twitter.com/Striterax\_/status/855652824801300480](https://twitter.com/Striterax_/status/855652824801300480) > > > > Now u guys happy. > > > > > > But we need servers in north africa 😢 > > > > So pester DICE about it. How do you think other people are getting servers tested in their specific regions? > > Do you think they will listen to me alone ? i need a BUNCH of people Well that would require there to be a BUNCH of people that want servers in North Africa. There would have to be a playerbase available in that region to warrant putting servers there. ---
**Author:** ![xenome111](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/8edcca/32.png) [@xenome111](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xenome111)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/107 "2017-05-01T13:52:00Z")
> [@hkadiri](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@hkadiri](#): > > > > > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > > > > Oh yeah - and last night before hopping on with friends, I played in ANOTHER EU match (OOR for me), with 120ms ping or higher this time. > > > > > > > > I attempted to get kills with SLRs because someone said it was specifically SLRs and bolt-action rifles that suffered the most from the netcode. > > > > > > > > I, again, have clips recorded of my shots connecting and me getting kills with the Mondragon Optical - even at range. I didn’t get any significantly different performance out of it than playing in my region, and my hits were definitely registering. > > > > > > proof ? im not accepting it if you were killing non-moving players > > > > Well then the first clip is just for you, pumpkin. > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNtnoKc-hNc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNtnoKc-hNc) > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WPvBcSiG0I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WPvBcSiG0I) > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAvbn36nLQA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAvbn36nLQA) > > WELL YOU MISSED MOST OF UR SHOTS At first dice released the patch Just 4 days ago.It was the worst timing on their part though.But anyways everyone takes time to adapt some fast some slow.Anyways Dice is testing servers near to our region next week see my post above till then either u can learn to adapt or take a chill pill and play some other games. Do I have to slow down my gameplay a bit in comparison to pre patch yes surely.Think it like the game was launched 4 days ago and ure still figuring out how to play.See not that hard I’m in the same boat as u guys because I’m Indian. ---
**Author:** ![Private\_UMPalot](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/private_umpalot/32/103169_2.png) [@Private\_UMPalot](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Private_UMPalot)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/108 "2017-05-01T13:54:00Z")
We low pingers were not complaining, we just have swallowed facing high ping players for so long on console we gave up, but we are smiling now. Sorry people are having trouble, but all I care about is that the server I am in isn’t full of bullet sponge players. ---
**Author:** ![xenome111](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/8edcca/32.png) [@xenome111](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xenome111)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/109 "2017-05-01T14:04:00Z")
> [@hkadiri](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@hkadiri](#): > > > > > > > [@xenome111](#): > > > > > > > > [https://twitter.com/Striterax\_/status/855652824801300480](https://twitter.com/Striterax_/status/855652824801300480) > > > > Now u guys happy. > > > > > > But we need servers in north africa 😢 > > > > So pester DICE about it. How do you think other people are getting servers tested in their specific regions? > > Do you think they will listen to me alone ? i need a BUNCH of people Now is the time to raise ur voice if u find a group they can surely help u.See I tweeted them right before the patch was even out because I knew what was going to happen.It was perfect timing on my part.And if u can see the status of the tweet then u can see how many guys/girls followed after me asking for servers.So make them see that u have a playerbase to warrant a server there. ---
**Author:** ![ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/proassassin2003/32/103170_2.png) [@ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ProAssassin2003)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/110 "2017-05-01T14:08:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@ProAssassin2003](#): > > > > Its so funny seeing everybody argue about the Netcode. I predicted this when they first announced the Netcode changes. I created a thread saying UH OH DICE are messing with Netcode again. > > > > The Fact of the matter is the Netcode was in a solid place before the spring patch and nobody was complaining. But DICE did what they always do and break something that wasn’t broken. I have zero packet loss with ping 80 to 90 ping and I have been rarely getting no hit markers. > > > > The point is DICE shouldn’t have F with the Netcode as none of this was happening before Spring patch. > > Again - if you’re not lagging (because it happens to low ping players to) and are getting no hits registered, that’s a known bug that has nothing to do with the netcode. > > If I can play with 120ms way OOR and still register hits with three different weapon types - it’s not the netcode that’s causing no hit reg. That’s the point of my comment. If DICE didn’t touch the Netcode the bug wouldn’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/111 "2017-05-01T14:11:00Z")
> [@ProAssassin2003](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@ProAssassin2003](#): > > > > > > Its so funny seeing everybody argue about the Netcode. I predicted this when they first announced the Netcode changes. I created a thread saying UH OH DICE are messing with Netcode again. > > > > > > The Fact of the matter is the Netcode was in a solid place before the spring patch and nobody was complaining. But DICE did what they always do and break something that wasn’t broken. I have zero packet loss with ping 80 to 90 ping and I have been rarely getting no hit markers. > > > > > > The point is DICE shouldn’t have F with the Netcode as none of this was happening before Spring patch. > > > > Again - if you’re not lagging (because it happens to low ping players to) and are getting no hits registered, that’s a known bug that has nothing to do with the netcode. > > > > If I can play with 120ms way OOR and still register hits with three different weapon types - it’s not the netcode that’s causing no hit reg. > > That’s the point of my comment. If DICE didn’t touch the Netcode the bug wouldn’t exist. Except it has nothing to do with them touching the netcode. As of this point, they don’t know exactly what’s causing it - but obviously there are people, myself included, who can play OOR with a very high latency and still have shots register and still have at least a playable and okay gaming experience. You keep insisting the bug came from the netcode change but there’s no evidence to support that claim apart from it happening in the same patch that the netcode change (which is not all that was changed in the patch) was included in. You may a well be saying “If DICE didn’t patch the game, there would be no hit-reg bug” ---
**Author:** ![Arc\_TJ](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/arc_tj/32/101217_2.png) [@Arc\_TJ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Arc_TJ)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/112 "2017-05-01T14:16:00Z")
Tell me. Many people said high ping had advantage over low ping [![Video: High Ping VS Low Ping controversy - High Ping does't gain advantage over low ping!!!](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/4/2/426506a5bcd2bfbe0a1d2c8f9c3573f06bd07e0e.jpeg "High Ping VS Low Ping controversy - High Ping does't gain advantage over low ping!!!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3t_Cdbo9kM) I know this bf4 have hybrid lag compensation (client side hit detection, server side hit regitration) But the thing strange. I have been having this disadvantage in bf4 pre netcode patch as well. Bf hardline didnt have hybrid, if im correct, they relied on pure client side. How come i still having hardtime killing those low ping. This include bf3 as well. Whenever u guys with low ping have opportunity to take vacation in south east asia, bring console or laptop along with u. And try it for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Matty101yttam)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/113 "2017-05-01T14:23:00Z")
I honestly think they should turn off the tracer rounds and bullet impacts if your high pinging(for a while anyhow), i think people are watching that and blaming visual hits for misses. ---
**Author:** ![xenome111](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/8edcca/32.png) [@xenome111](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xenome111)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/114 "2017-05-01T14:25:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@hkadiri](#): > > > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > > Oh yeah - and last night before hopping on with friends, I played in ANOTHER EU match (OOR for me), with 120ms ping or higher this time. > > > > > > I attempted to get kills with SLRs because someone said it was specifically SLRs and bolt-action rifles that suffered the most from the netcode. > > > > > > I, again, have clips recorded of my shots connecting and me getting kills with the Mondragon Optical - even at range. I didn’t get any significantly different performance out of it than playing in my region, and my hits were definitely registering. > > > > proof ? im not accepting it if you were killing non-moving players > > Well then the first clip is just for you, pumpkin. > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNtnoKc-hNc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNtnoKc-hNc) > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WPvBcSiG0I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WPvBcSiG0I) > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAvbn36nLQA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAvbn36nLQA) Lol why ur enemies does not shoot back to u lol except for the last video.R they like this on console then I will definitely move to console gaming lol.But we can agree the spawn system in this game is pretty bad though example ur last video it becomes more chaotic in tdm. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/115 "2017-05-01T14:33:00Z")
> [@xenome111](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@hkadiri](#): > > > > > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > > > > Oh yeah - and last night before hopping on with friends, I played in ANOTHER EU match (OOR for me), with 120ms ping or higher this time. > > > > > > > > I attempted to get kills with SLRs because someone said it was specifically SLRs and bolt-action rifles that suffered the most from the netcode. > > > > > > > > I, again, have clips recorded of my shots connecting and me getting kills with the Mondragon Optical - even at range. I didn’t get any significantly different performance out of it than playing in my region, and my hits were definitely registering. > > > > > > proof ? im not accepting it if you were killing non-moving players > > > > Well then the first clip is just for you, pumpkin. > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNtnoKc-hNc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNtnoKc-hNc) > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WPvBcSiG0I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WPvBcSiG0I) > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAvbn36nLQA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAvbn36nLQA) > > Lol why ur enemies does not shoot back to u lol except for the last video.R they like this on console then I will definitely move to console gaming lol.But we can agree the spawn system in this game is pretty bad though example ur last video it becomes more chaotic in tdm. Well that’s in the EU - I did run into many people that were just sort of sitting there. In the second clip, I have absolutely no idea why the Scout at the end of the clip didn’t kill me - I was standing out in the open trying to record the guy I just killed and wasn’t able to move or shoot him at all for a good 2 or so seconds. The guy was completely oblivious, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![blackknightrr](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@blackknightrr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/blackknightrr)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/116 "2017-05-01T14:34:00Z")
I have mentioned it before and will mention it again. Unless you have ridiculously high ping, high pingers never had an advantage on low pingers. I don’t know where this argument is coming from. I have played bf1 close to 400 hours and not a single person complained to me that I am invincible or hard to kill or whatever. My ping hovers around 100.On the contrary I would always feel at a disadvantage. I have asked the low ping players in game about whether they feel high ping has an advantage no one said yes. It seems this issue is being pushed by a bunch of people with total disregard to players who have above 100 ping which is a large player base. This patch is a literal you to anyone who has above 100 ping. But hey they are glad to take our money. They have no issues in that. ---
**Author:** ![Kay-7k](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kay-7k/32/102475_2.png) [@Kay-7k](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kay-7k)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/117 "2017-05-01T14:43:00Z")
Why is everyone still getting their knickers in a twist. A fair few posts back, the information on the intended “fix” to this recent change was posted. Have a little patience & see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![denjoga](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/denjoga/32/101691_2.png) [@denjoga](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/denjoga)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/118 "2017-05-01T14:46:00Z")
congrats dice you fixed the game for so many people including me ---
**Author:** ![rock1obsta](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rock1obsta/32/103288_2.png) [@rock1obsta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rock1obsta)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/119 "2017-05-01T14:46:00Z")
> [@hkadiri](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@hkadiri](#): > > > > > > > [@Motafied](#): > > > > > > > > People are so clueless about the netcode (Ping etc..), It’s your problem that you have lag, NOT DICE. > > > > The only problem is maybe the lack of local servers in some regions. > > > > > > WELL IF YOU SEE DICE MADE PEOPLE WITH OVER 100 PING SUFFER BASICALLY YOUR SHOTS WILL NOT REG > > > > Not true. > > > > No-hit-reg is a bug that DICE already acknowledged, it has nothing to do with netcode. > > > > I have video evidence using vehicles, LMGs, pistols, grenades, and SLRs in an OOR server where I have over 100ms latency the entire match, and my hits register. > > IM TALKING ABOUT THE FEATURE Dude, seriously, all caps makes you look like a loudmouth dbag. Chill. High ping by itself doesn’t mean you can’t play. I was in a server with a guy on the enemy team playing with 283 ping. He went 14 or 15-1. ---
**Author:** ![sg2434](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@sg2434](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/sg2434)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/120 "2017-05-01T14:47:00Z")
> [@VictorLima141](#): > > VictorLima141 is Australian, and he plays in Australian servers. > > He doesn’t play out of region. > > He pays for a decent internet connection. > > His ping on the scoreboard is 14. > > He doesn’t come on the forums and blame game developers for his poverty internet. > > Be like VictorLima141. The thread should have ended here. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986.md?page=5) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986.md?page=7)