# The Complain about "netcode" thread **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 30, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986 "2017-04-30T21:01:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![xenome111](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/8edcca/32.png) [@xenome111](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xenome111)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/121 "2017-05-01T15:17:00Z")
> [@ICEMANx442](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@ICEMANx442](#): > > > > > > > [@Dogwoggle11](#): > > > > > > > > > [@ICEMANx442](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@Private\_UMPalot](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > [@Kozer213](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [@Private\_UMPalot](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Kozer213 post a video of what you are experiencing so we can understand better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its been awhile since I have recorded a video. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=497s99sTISQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=497s99sTISQ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try that. That is the best ping I can hope to get on a populated server. I am not asking to be treated like I have 30ms for a ping. I just would like to be able to have a decent time. > > > > > > > Regardless unless the african servers fill up I am done with battlefield. Makes me sad since it is a great game. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe a longer video with more of that, so it shows it is not just an isolated incident. To be honest if I had to put up with that, I’d stop playing Battlefield asap and never come back. > > > > > > > > > > Do you see now why so many are angry? There’s countless videos online showcasing this, I played a lot today to really get a feel of the new netcode, almost every encounter, every game is like this video now. Before the patch how many high ping players did you encounter a game? If it was a lot then yes that would be annoying but if it was just a few in a match of 64 it’s not game breaking you move on and might not even encounter that player all game. > > > > > I know sadly that because of this I and my international friends will be playing a hell of a lot less, and when I play I’m just going to be messing around with TNT to kill people, instead of playing to win. > > > > > > > > I’ve played in servers FILLED with high ping players. If they were so few how do you think we would get pages of the forum all talking about he same thing? And that’s just the complete minority who bothers to post. For what I gathered, we had a great part of the playerbase in Asia playing with high pings on other regions. That’s A LOT of people. Add the players on the Middle-East and all of those with crappy internet service… It is obvious that the servers were pushing hard to maintain a decent performance with all the high ping players. > > > > > > > > They were not just one or two per match (I mean, even now with the new netcode I see a lot more than that), they were many, many more. > > > > > > I’m sorry I don’t believe you, I’ve rarely seen anyone complain about high pingers I play almost exclusively with friends from overseas They’ve not once mentioned it, they’re low pingers and they don’t like this change anyone who plays with people from overseas probably don’t like it hell people with friends on the opposite side of the country have been nnegatively affected > > > The vocal minority complained and got their way Now the game is unplayable for many. > > > You might have had trouble killing an high pinger somtimes but for the most part you could play happily. Whats happened now is vast portions of the community have been split and BF1 is unplayable. If people thought the game was dying before just watch it now. > > > > > > I’ve never seen any more than a dozen high pingers in one game before including myself, and most of the it’s half that. > > > Your issues never stopped you from having a good having fun or made you consider to stop playing. > > > > Well it doesn’t matter what you believe - it’s a fact that people have been complaining about OOR and high ping players in this game, and the netcode that gave them an advantage over low-ping players since at least BC2, almost 7 years ago. > > > > The advantages the netcode gave high ping players was confirmed by DICE devs themselves, and the netcode was changed BECAUSE of that advantage. They didn’t just change the netcode randomly out of nowhere for no reason. > > > > Lastly - I live in US East. Some guy on the forum challenged me to play OOR with a high ping to see what all these crybabies are going through. > > > > So, I did. I joined an EU server with a yellow, 3-bar connection in the server browser. From the moment I joined I had at least over 110ms latency, and it stayed that way the entire match, never dipped below 110. > > > > Do you know what happened? I got first place on the winning team, and got an almost 2K/D going 30-17. > > > > And if you find that unbelievable, I not only took a screenshot of the end-of-round scoreboard with my ping visible, but I recorded 10+ clips of my shots registering and me getting kills, with the scoreboard shown after every kill so you can see my latency. > > > > I’ll gladly link you to the videos and the screenshot of the scoreboard if you don’t believe me. > > I read a bit of your comment wrong, However 110 ping isn’t that bad try 150+ then come back. Fact the old netcode allowed players from around the world to play together without much issues, now it’s an impossibility. [![Google Photos](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/e/3/e31b469125c79df0233ba9ff90838204dc743025.png "New photo · Monday, May 1, 2017 📸") ](https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMD1rfuzJsKZDp5HBSOEqEpzgN6HlijLiUroecCvdIlXwwuzoQzOeVezkh-1mvPAw?key=Y3NxcV83QlFuWEJLbkk1ZzRpQ3VNYlhldUQ3SWtR) I play on pc .I join to Hong Kong servers because that is the nearest server and I get 160 ping .Is it unplayable no .Do I have to adapt yes.I slowed my gameplay a bit if u compare with the pre patch.I can deal with it in till the servers come here.And at last my layout is medic use all 8.35 marks.auto rev as a sidearm. And also my screenshot also shows how bad the balancing feature is in this game lol. ---
**Author:** ![ohnoshyguy](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ohnoshyguy/32/103009_2.png) [@ohnoshyguy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ohnoshyguy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/122 "2017-05-01T15:30:00Z")
Where’s DICE? They post crap on Reddit and Twitter all the time…what about the OFFICIAL FORUMS!? This update is bad. ---
**Author:** ![XTS-KingBeef](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xts-kingbeef/32/104136_2.png) [@XTS-KingBeef](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/XTS-KingBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/123 "2017-05-01T15:32:00Z")
> [@ohnoshyguy](#): > > Where’s DICE? They post crap on Reddit and Twitter all the time…what about the OFFICIAL FORUMS!? > > This update is bad. Cause there is no issue “working as intended” ---
**Author:** ![blackknightrr](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@blackknightrr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/blackknightrr)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/124 "2017-05-01T15:42:00Z")
If DICE doesn’t want us to play the game then they should have mentioned it from the beginning so that I wouldn’t waste 100 dollars on a game that is unplayable. Put a disclaimer that you need to have this ping to play the game and don’t sell the game globally. It is not our fault that we don’t have servers in our region and that we want to play on the servers closest to our region. I have been a bf fan for years and love the series. I have never encountered such a big change with total disregard to a large portion of players. They should at least increase the threshold. 100 is too low. ---
**Author:** ![sg2434](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@sg2434](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/sg2434)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/125 "2017-05-01T15:50:00Z")
> [@blackknightrr](#): > > If DICE doesn’t want us to play the game then they should have mentioned it from the beginning so that I wouldn’t waste 100 dollars on a game that is unplayable. Put a disclaimer that you need to have this ping to play the game and don’t sell the game globally. It is not our fault that we don’t have servers in our region and that we want to play on the servers closest to our region. I have been a bf fan for years and love the series. I have never encountered such a big change with total disregard to a large portion of players. They should at least increase the threshold. 100 is too low. Maybe if you took some time to do some research instead of just complaining like a child you would see that they already agreed to increase it. ---
**Author:** ![HardAimedKid](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hardaimedkid/32/102174_2.png) [@HardAimedKid](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HardAimedKid)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/126 "2017-05-01T16:07:00Z")
My experience has been great. ---
**Author:** ![x\_Undaunted\_x](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/x_undaunted_x/32/104094_2.png) [@x\_Undaunted\_x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/x_Undaunted_x)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/127 "2017-05-01T16:17:00Z")
> [@HardAimedKid](#): > > My experience has been great. Mine too. Consistently played with @ 25 ping on US East servers and @ 80 on US West. The game ran smooth as silk. No “I died even though I had already turned a corner” moments. It was awesome! This is the way the game should be. It’s pure entitlement for these region hoppers to think those of us who play in region should be penalized for their lack of servers. They’ve been catered to long enough. ---
**Author:** ![HardAimedKid](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hardaimedkid/32/102174_2.png) [@HardAimedKid](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HardAimedKid)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/128 "2017-05-01T16:19:00Z")
> [@x\_Undaunted\_x](#): > > > [@HardAimedKid](#): > > > > My experience has been great. > > Mine too. Consistently played with @ 25 ping on US East servers and @ 80 on US West. The game ran smooth as silk. No “I died even though I had already turned a corner” moments. It was awesome! This is the way the game should be. > > It’s pure entitlement for these region hoppers to think those of us who play in region should be penalized for their lack of servers. They’ve been catered to long enough. Exactly and they should have the proper support so that they can have a good experience also. That doesn’t mean I should have a bad experience because you don’t have the support though. ---
**Author:** ![xenome111](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/8edcca/32.png) [@xenome111](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xenome111)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/129 "2017-05-01T16:20:00Z")
> [@x\_Undaunted\_x](#): > > > [@HardAimedKid](#): > > > > My experience has been great. > > Mine too. Consistently played with @ 25 ping on US East servers and @ 80 on US West. The game ran smooth as silk. No “I died even though I had already turned a corner” moments. It was awesome! This is the way the game should be. > > It’s pure entitlement for these region hoppers to think those of us who play in region should be penalized for their lack of servers. They’ve been catered to long enough. But I can adapt 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kenito83](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kenito83/32/102486_2.png) [@Kenito83](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kenito83)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/130 "2017-05-01T16:23:00Z")
> [@x\_Undaunted\_x](#): > > > [@HardAimedKid](#): > > > > My experience has been great. > > Mine too. Consistently played with @ 25 ping on US East servers and @ 80 on US West. The game ran smooth as silk. No “I died even though I had already turned a corner” moments. It was awesome! This is the way the game should be. > > It’s pure entitlement for these region hoppers to think those of us who play in region should be penalized for their lack of servers. They’ve been catered to long enough. Agreed. I get 40-45 ping on European servers. The game is silky smooth now. No more WTF moments and dying around corners. This patch is a god sent for me at least. ---
**Author:** ![x\_Undaunted\_x](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/x_undaunted_x/32/104094_2.png) [@x\_Undaunted\_x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/x_Undaunted_x)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/131 "2017-05-01T16:27:00Z")
> [@xenome111](#): > > > [@x\_Undaunted\_x](#): > > > > > [@HardAimedKid](#): > > > > > > My experience has been great. > > > > Mine too. Consistently played with @ 25 ping on US East servers and @ 80 on US West. The game ran smooth as silk. No “I died even though I had already turned a corner” moments. It was awesome! This is the way the game should be. > > > > It’s pure entitlement for these region hoppers to think those of us who play in region should be penalized for their lack of servers. They’ve been catered to long enough. > > But I can adapt 😉 Which is awesome. Wish more of these kids had your mindset. But, they think that the 1 or 2 of them playing OOR should hinder the other 122-123 players on a conquest larger server. ---
**Author:** ![xenome111](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/8edcca/32.png) [@xenome111](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xenome111)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/132 "2017-05-01T16:39:00Z")
> [@x\_Undaunted\_x](#): > > > [@xenome111](#): > > > > > [@x\_Undaunted\_x](#): > > > > > > > [@HardAimedKid](#): > > > > > > > > My experience has been great. > > > > > > Mine too. Consistently played with @ 25 ping on US East servers and @ 80 on US West. The game ran smooth as silk. No “I died even though I had already turned a corner” moments. It was awesome! This is the way the game should be. > > > > > > It’s pure entitlement for these region hoppers to think those of us who play in region should be penalized for their lack of servers. They’ve been catered to long enough. > > > > But I can adapt 😉 > > Which is awesome. Wish more of these kids had your mindset. But, they think that the 1 or 2 of them playing OOR should hinder the other 122-123 players on a conquest larger server. Actually I joined oor i.e. us west coast servers when I added sodium to my friend list for maybe 5 times.2 times I joined him in empty server to look at his shiny tank skin.Lol.And I always play in region for that matter but some people thinks I join oor for advantage which makes me laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Ram1c](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/97f17d/32.png) [@Ram1c](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ram1c)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/133 "2017-05-01T19:15:00Z")
> [@Arc\_TJ](#): > > Tell me. Many people said high ping had advantage over low ping > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3t\_Cdbo9kM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3t_Cdbo9kM) > > I know this bf4 have hybrid lag compensation (client side hit detection, server side hit regitration) > But the thing strange. I have been having this disadvantage in bf4 pre netcode patch as well. Bf hardline didnt have hybrid, if im correct, they relied on pure client side. > > How come i still having hardtime killing those low ping. > This include bf3 as well. > > Whenever u guys with low ping have opportunity to take vacation in south east asia, bring console or laptop along with u. And try it for yourself. Here I’ll just post this again since you completely ignored it in the other thread. Why do you not understand that you will not see any difference on your client. Just like in your video it will all look normal on your screen, but most of the time if you placed both clients next to each other the low ping player sees and lands hits on the high ping player earlier than you see. The problem is that since your screen doesn’t show what’s represented on your client the low ping players packets get put aside and yours get accepted due to the way the lag compensation was set up to favor high pingers. It’s not a matter of reaction and delay, it’s a matter of the clients being too far apart, but unfairly biased towards the person with the faster connection. Both players will have a consistency to their on screen gameplay, but the inconsistency comes from the server decision which ultimately will cause one players death to seem awkward or unlikely. When in reality the low ping player has the most consistent representation, but gets screwed over. In short the lag compensation did nothing but slow up our connections for your game to be tolerable. Which made ours intolerable, I can tell you from first hand experience it’s not fun when you see a person and dump a whole mag into them only for them to turn around and kill you in a single frame. ---
**Author:** ![Seelenjager](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/seelenjager/32/103406_2.png) [@Seelenjager](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Seelenjager)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/134 "2017-05-01T20:24:00Z")
Hello. [![Video: Best hit reg ever](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/e/c/ec191c3bc13ca5b0bab3840f3496828dcd86f62c.jpeg "Best hit reg ever") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHuIZ3EmKB4) Now, this was OOR. I know I didn’t lead the first and last shots. But come on, wtf was that. I never ever had such problems in ANY game and I played with 20 to 250 ping myself against 20 to 300 pingers. I know there’s a bug, but 10 shots? point blank? ---
**Author:** ![dbibby1988](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/45deac/32.png) [@dbibby1988](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dbibby1988)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/135 "2017-05-01T20:25:00Z")
Can anyone explain the random bullets missing? Its happened a few times today. My ping has been around 40-50 and not had any symbols on the right hand side. Could this be due to the latest patch, the person im shooting at ping or the new bug? ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/136 "2017-05-01T20:28:00Z")
> [@Seelenjager](#): > > Hello. > [https://youtu.be/oHuIZ3EmKB4](https://youtu.be/oHuIZ3EmKB4) > > Now, this was OOR. I know I didn’t lead the first and last shots. But come on, wtf was that. I never ever had such problems in ANY game and I played with 20 to 250 ping myself against 20 to 300 pingers. > > I know there’s a bug, but 10 shots? point blank? Well considering the bug makes no hits register - yes, even 10 shots point blank will not register. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/137 "2017-05-01T22:18:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@Seelenjager](#): > > > > Hello. > > [https://youtu.be/oHuIZ3EmKB4](https://youtu.be/oHuIZ3EmKB4) > > > > Now, this was OOR. I know I didn’t lead the first and last shots. But come on, wtf was that. I never ever had such problems in ANY game and I played with 20 to 250 ping myself against 20 to 300 pingers. > > > > I know there’s a bug, but 10 shots? point blank? > > Well considering the bug makes no hits register - yes, even 10 shots point blank will not register. Come on man, You can’t expect people to read. It’s 2017!!! That’s just DICE being discriminatory against those with reading comprehension or illiteracy issues. They need to do some meme’s if they wan’t the information adsorbed. Or have that “cash me outside” chick do an infomercial. ---
**Author:** ![SDHSH](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@SDHSH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SDHSH)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/138 "2017-05-01T23:37:00Z")
It is kind of bullshitty to spend money on a game, then buy a premium pass for it, only to not be able to do at times because your connection isn’t as good. Although, my connection goes from 40 to 999 randomly at times and Idk why. Then again, they already got their money out of me, what do they have to gain? Another vote to increase the netcode threshold to 150. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/139 "2017-05-01T23:41:00Z")
> [@SDHSH](#): > > It is kind of bullshitty to spend money on a game, then buy a premium pass for it, only to not be able to do at times because your connection isn’t as good. Although, my connection goes from 40 to 999 randomly at times and Idk why. Then again, they already got their money out of me, what do they have to gain? > > Another vote to increase the netcode threshold to 150. Well technically you agreed to accept any changes made to the game despite whether or not they effect your in-game performance when you accepted EA/DICE’s Terms of Service when you started playing their game. (and before anybody doubts it, Rev above can confirm it’s in the ToS) ---
**Author:** ![Tansho](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tansho/32/103698_2.png) [@Tansho](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Tansho)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986/140 "2017-05-01T23:48:00Z")
After some thought, I really don’t think all the problems are the ping limit. I’m in the Western US and my ISP has known issues with how they handle traffic, so I ping Western US servers in the 70s with some spikes. So sometimes in a game I might trigger the ping limit and other times not, but most issues with no hits don’t match when the latency warning appears on screen. Hopefully the change to 150 and Dice combing through the netcode will iron that out. Also, wonder how many people are still adjusting to control changes. I know I had to play around with mine again to get things to feel the same and I know that could compound how issues seem if a player isn’t aware of those changes in the update as well. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986.md?page=6) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-complain-about-netcode-thread/102986.md?page=8)