# The Sturmgeschütz IV what do you think?

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**Created:** [February 16, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-sturmgeschutz-iv-what-do-you-think/106607 "2019-02-16T18:13:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![WinterWarhurst](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/winterwarhurst/32/107315_2.png) [@WinterWarhurst](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WinterWarhurst)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 2:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/the-sturmgeschutz-iv-what-do-you-think/106607/21 "2019-02-18T02:12:00Z")

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> > > > > > > > > Hold up, so the stock gun is better than the upgraded gun? Have I got that right?
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> > > > > > > > Better splash damage against infantry but worse velocity and damage against vehicles, that’s the trade off. (ROF is very similar but the short barrelled is slightly faster)
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> > > > > > > But you can also increase the ROF of the short barrel 75mm. So wouldn’t that even out the DPM/DPS against vehicles?
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> > > > > > Yeah but it’s only by 10%, I’d take it with the upgraded cannon tbh and use AP
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> > > > > It’s not like that. It’s either upgraded cannon or ROF buff, not both.
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> > > > Sorry I was ambiguous, but ‘it’ I meant the Stug, not upgraded ROF!
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> > > I guess part of me just doesn’t trust my gunners so I want my main gun to be able to kill infantry for me. I still can’t decide how to spec it however. Thanks to gunning in others, I’m rank 4 though, so I just need to make up my mind. I guess S-mines could help alleviate my worries? Also, side skirts or quick repair?
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> > IMO use thr StuG for its proper role which is as a tank destroyer… So take advantage of your low profile and frontal 0.8x armour, and use the upgraded StuK 40 with AP. During frontal engagements aim for the tracks on heavies and mediums, it will do max damage. For Stag hit the wheel once to disable then hit the turret for max damage. HE will OHK infantry within about 1.5m. Beyond the role that this tank was designed for, it will be a bit of a novelty tbh.
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> > If you want to be aggressive and push flags, etc. Just use a Panzer IV. If you really must use a StuG, make sure you have a damn good gunner and dedicated rep that you’re on comms with.
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> The StuG IV (as we got it) isn’t any smaller than the Pz. IV, it just has a lower sitting main gun and a larger silhouette with no turret. The top of the StuG IV ends up sitting exactly the same height as the Pz. IV. The only real benefit to choosing it over the Pz IV is that it has tougher front armor and can fire faster.

It seemed lower profile to me in game. IRL it’s nearly 2 feet shorter, that’s almost the height of the turret!

The rate of fire is the same for StuG & Pz. IV (20 or 18 RPM depending on cannon choice) unless you choose the 10% increase which I think makes a very minor difference.

I haven’t lined a StuG IV up side by side with a Pz. IV but I recall the profile being lower. IRL The StuG IV is almost 2 feet lower, which is significant.

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