# There are indeed cheaters on console in this game! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 4, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501 "2019-02-04T13:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/full951/32/102018_2.png) [@full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/full951)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/61 "2019-02-06T15:24:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > [@full951](#): > > > > > [@CracKxEm](#): > > > > > > > [@full951](#): > > > > > > > > > [@ackers75](#): > > > > > > > > > > I have actually used an xim on battlefield v and anyone saying you get no advantage are blatantly lying to you! > > > > > > > > increased player performance is bad apparently. I thought this was a competitive game > > > > > > its not bad, its bad when you have too buy 3rd party software & hardware too do so. > > > even more so when DICE has full authority to do something about it… > > > > > > by which they could make it controller only for xbox.. > > > or allow K&M suppor for xbox legitimately though Microsoft. > > > > Gamers buying third party adapters is what brought us here. and for that, we thank you all. > > > > If a player prefers to use a controller that’s fine. but consider that using a mouse and keyboard(or keypad) is better. many have. the player base for All shooters on console has cleary demanded MnK support. with dices authority, what do you expect them to do? squash an input method people enjoy playing their game with? > > > > the emulators translate mouse movements to stick movement and allow custom key binds. and yes, it gives gamers more control. that doesn’t build a strong case for the controller. it’s holding gamers back. > > > > in another thread of similar topic, I was told a MnK emulator user with absolutely zero gaming experience and just days of practice, would “face roll” a multi year experienced DS4 controller user virtually every time. ok, let’s go with that. how is this a bad thing? if better player performance and enjoyment is to be had in days rather than years of cumbersome controller use.. you don’t think gamers want that? we’re talking about a control system that increases player enjoyment and overall impressions of the game being played. by this forum users assertion (sorry forgot his name) performance exceeding a multi year experienced player can be achieved.. in days. as I understand it, devs try very hard to make using a controller easy as to not frustrate the player. I think it’s obvious their obstacle is the controller. MnK is not an aim bot, it does not imbue skill or play the game for you. it doesn’t do any cheating people try so very hard to associate it with. > > > > (the following assumes dice does enable native support. during launch I would have guessed they would not, but it seems more and more likely as time passes.) > > > > the real boogie man: uncapped speed and 1 to 1 precision of native mouse support, has not shown its face yet. this amuses me. opposers think their up against tough competition now? well, fear not. the devs care about player’s feelings. they won’t make you play with matimio and levelcap with out consent. at least I don’t think they will > > > > IMO skill based matchmaking would be the lowest cost, least resource intensive and fairest solution. if MnK wrecks controllers so hard the two will be effectively separated by matchmaking anyway. if they are together, everyone no matter the input method used, will be up against players of a similar skill range. this way devs don’t have to split up the community. by getting rid of premium dice has eliminated what split the player base in previous games. do you think they want the same problem back? they gave up a money maker for that. it took years of us asking them to stop splitting the player base for them to do that. > > > > I understand that skill based matchmaking in a game like Battlefield is gonna leave us with some outliers in lobbies. I guess I could not say till it was put into practice but I’d expect the scoreboard to look very similar to any game now: a few guys up top, most of the lobby with a similar median score and couple guys at the bottom with next to nothing. want a leader board that’s controller only? those days are long gone. join an in person controller only tournament. because that’s the only place that’s gonna happen. > > > > mouse and keyboard symbolizes the unification of gaming on windows 10 devices. it’s the direction Phill Spencer is taking Xbox. so.. that means go to Playstation then right? not only has Sony been selling a branded mouse and keyboard for years, if they can keep gamers who want MnK off windows 10 machines by supporting MnK, they will. they are already doing it. Nintendo? well, it seams Xbox live will come to switch, as will games pass and first party Microsoft games that will be garenteed to have mouse and keyboard support, because they didn’t develop the Razer turret for nothing. it got an award at ces btw too. > > > > controllers aren’t going anywhere and neither is mouse and keyboard. player choice will be king. A 250 USD price tag is not the entry fee. virtual any MnK will work. > > Well a sincere question i have (being i’m not sure of the answer), is didn’t Sony and Microsoft leave it up to individual developers (say…DICE) to make the decision if k&m were allowed in their games? is it being used in their games? I keep getting told devs have every tool to stop it. ---
**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/62 "2019-02-24T01:55:00Z")
> [@WhiteRabbit\_swe](#): > > Its amazing how this thread I started has grown to become a mega thread! I guess alot of people are as frustrated as Iam of all the cheaters on console (because there are plenty in BFV)… No, 90% of the replies are people ridiculing those who claim there are cheaters on console. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenux289](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/phoenux289/32/103123_2.png) [@Phoenux289](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Phoenux289)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/63 "2019-02-24T03:12:00Z")
[I named and shamed] ---
**Author:** ![Jamesonoid](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jamesonoid/32/106799_2.png) [@Jamesonoid](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jamesonoid)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/64 "2019-02-24T03:42:00Z")
> [@Phoenux289](#): > > Yep, there is indeed cheaters on Xbox One. > > 2 days ago, with 2 friends, we played a Team Deathmatch on Twisted Steel (before switching to grand ops). > > One guy, called “######” on Xbox, was obviously cheating. He was playing sniper (EDIT: And I mean agressive sniper, like he was just running everywhere and jumping like he was at Disneyland). > > 1. Aimbot (100% headshots) > 2. Wallhack > 3. Finish the game with a score of 74/4 (So he did more or less than half of his team’s kills???) > 4. One thing not legit, is that, me and my friends were counting the amount of times we killed him. Results: we killed him (us three) 11 times (and we saw him die without getting revived). Scoreboard: 4 deaths. Is there a thing I didn’t understood? A glitch with the scoreboard? It was weird as hell. > > So yeah, Without any in-game report system, they just continue their business like if it’s nothing. > > I sent him a message, he was just laughing that he never got banned, even if a lot are reporting him. 🙂 > > THANKS DICE 🙂 You’re not supposed to name(and shame) players. Also, the player you mentioned has no 74/4 matches on TDM Twisted Steel 2 days ago(Feb. 21st). You did play with the player on TDM Twisted Steel on Feb 20th in which they went 56/5, but you were on their team. TDM on Fjell on Feb 20th they went 32/4, you were against them. Then again on Rotterdam where they went 10/4, again against. All info found via [https://battlefieldtracker.com/](https://battlefieldtracker.com/) Nothing about the mentioned players stats suggest they are cheating. ---
**Author:** ![thamac15](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thamac15/32/103737_2.png) [@thamac15](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/thamac15)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 4:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/65 "2019-02-24T04:29:00Z")
> [@Phoenux289](#): > > [I named and shamed] I’ve come across some beast run and gun snipers on PS4. The very rare players that make you think they’re cheating, but then realize they’re just plain great at the game. I’m not saying your experience was a cheater or not, but anytime I hear players in game stating someone’s cheating, it’s usually someone being out played. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/66 "2019-02-24T05:08:00Z")
@Phoenux289 As others and others before them have been told, Do not name and shame. ---
**Author:** ![Imabaka70](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/imabaka70/32/102297_2.png) [@Imabaka70](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Imabaka70)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 5:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/67 "2019-02-24T05:10:00Z")
> [@thamac15](#): > > > [@Phoenux289](#): > > > > [I named and shamed] > > I’ve come across some beast run and gun snipers on PS4. The very rare players that make you think they’re cheating, but then realize they’re just plain great at the game. I’m not saying your experience was a cheater or not, but anytime I hear players in game stating someone’s cheating, it’s usually someone being out played. Add to this the ones usually calling “hacks” are running out in the open or constantly drawing attention to them selves. ---
**Author:** ![WhiteRabbit\_swe](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/4da419/32.png) [@WhiteRabbit\_swe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WhiteRabbit_swe)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/68 "2019-02-28T20:44:00Z")
> [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > [@WhiteRabbit\_swe](#): > > > > Its amazing how this thread I started has grown to become a mega thread! I guess alot of people are as frustrated as Iam of all the cheaters on console (because there are plenty in BFV)… > > No, 90% of the replies are people ridiculing those who claim there are cheaters on console. Arent you that guy that uses m&k on console for BFV!? If so, then your opinion on anything doesnt matter, most people consider m&k users on console to be 100% cheat too, even tho dice/ea doesnt think so… It gives a huge advantage over a controller, anyone saying it does not, see either stupid or straight out lieing! People using m&k on console are trash players, they dont like to play on same terms as everybody else, they just MUST have some kind of advantage because they SUCK at the game otherwise… But well, I dont care anymore anyway… I stopped playing… The new Ross mk3 rifle was lame as hell, almost as bad as Lee Enfield (the bullet velocity is shiet btw)… Game is dead in 1 year for sure… ---
**Author:** ![alienstout](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/alienstout/32/101179_2.png) [@alienstout](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alienstout)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/69 "2019-02-28T21:14:00Z")
Isn’t Xim like a pronoun or something? I think I saw in on an application asking about gender. ---
**Author:** ![shaunw2010](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@shaunw2010](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/shaunw2010)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/70 "2019-02-28T22:21:00Z")
There are cheaters on consoles! My friend was cheating on f1 games by tweaking car performance values.. he got caught last year because CM patched anti cheat feature.. No account bann he just couldn’t play the game online untill he reinstalled full game. Yes it is possible to cheat on Bfv.. by using multiple ghost accounts & consoles or modded controllers ingame exploits/glitches. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/71 "2019-02-04T15:11:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > There are indeed not cheaters on consoles because neither console will run a game at all if it has any modified portion compared to the actual release game, let alone allow you to run said modified games in an online environment. > > > > If there’s one thing Microsoft and Sony seem to have learned from the last gen of consoles, it’s uniformity and hacker prevention. > > You’re saying there is no cheating on consoles? > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqx0w-5NlM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqx0w-5NlM) > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M84P-MR1KA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M84P-MR1KA) > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsO520XpO08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsO520XpO08) > > Rapid reload. Rapid Fire. Auto Spot. > > That’s not cheating? Those are essentially a controller or adapter inputting controller inputs automatically. The same is possible using just your hands. Rof limits on weapon stats render rapid fire mods pointless, rapid reload is also pointless because all guns have reload timers. I even know people who have mapped the fire button to 2 or 3 different buttons to max out rof on a semi auto weapon in CoD. Thay video with the frommer is pointless, that rof is achievable without using a Chronus Max, which literally just translates button presses to keystrokes. Those functions are not akin to actual cheaters or what the OP was discussing. Which would be ohking him through a wall, using wallhacks or esp hacks, aimbot, etc. Sorry, but using controller mods or adapters will not automatically make you a 100% accurate crack shot or allow you to see enemy positions through solid objects. Chronus max and tools like it do not modify game files to give players a blatant upper hand advantage. ---
**Author:** ![WhiteRabbit\_swe](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/4da419/32.png) [@WhiteRabbit\_swe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WhiteRabbit_swe)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/72 "2019-02-04T15:13:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > If what was posted above with Cronus, is NOT cheating, i would appreciate if the Moderator and /or DICE says so, gives me permission, and i’ll use it. Lets end this argument one way or another. If it’s not cheating,and that there is no cheating or way you can on consoles, i’m using it. If cronus not cheating, I will start using it too, that anti recoil was insane… ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/73 "2019-02-04T15:14:00Z")
> [@EvilGoat\_51](#): > > Never seen a hacker on console. > > @OP Do you have footage of this? 37-1 is not a unrealistic score, it’s good, but not hacker good. I have gone 35-2 in low player count conquest before. > > Anyone who claims there is a hacker on console **needs to get footage of it**. > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > What folks here seem to misunderstand, coming from the PC world, is that the only way you can “cheat”, is by 'hacking". That is a blatantly false on consoles. There is no challenge could made on that fact. > > > > Cronusmax and other devices have rapid reload speeds, stick aim, rapid fire, and before you know it, your Geweher is an smg, and with relatively no reload times. Same with bolt actions. > > > > So, to the OP, politely ignore folks who do not know consoles or what they’re talking about. You are correct. The best thing i could tell you to do, is make a vid of the cheater, and send it to Xbox as Spartan mentioned.. > > I wouldn’t buy into what they say the Cronusmax does. Go find a legitimate source that says that the hacks work. Until then, it is sham. I HAVE it lol. And it works, but i just don’'t use, because i’d get banned. I use it to use my 360 controller on my PS4 with single player games. ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/74 "2019-02-04T15:16:00Z")
@logtrall, is it cheating or not? ---
**Author:** ![Jamesonoid](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jamesonoid/32/106799_2.png) [@Jamesonoid](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jamesonoid)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/75 "2019-02-04T15:16:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > There are indeed not cheaters on consoles because neither console will run a game at all if it has any modified portion compared to the actual release game, let alone allow you to run said modified games in an online environment. > > > > If there’s one thing Microsoft and Sony seem to have learned from the last gen of consoles, it’s uniformity and hacker prevention. > > You’re saying there is no cheating on consoles? > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqx0w-5NlM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqx0w-5NlM) > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M84P-MR1KA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M84P-MR1KA) > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsO520XpO08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsO520XpO08) > > Rapid reload. Rapid Fire. Auto Spot. > > That’s not cheating? Recoil control and having a good trigger finger is not hard. Watch his full review, pay close attention to any “killstreaks” and the footage in general. [![Video: CronusMAX PLUS - Battlefield 1 Gamepack Review](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/7/3/7338b5663fe66f8667b9c1e35b8dbeb089547ef8.jpeg "CronusMAX PLUS - Battlefield 1 Gamepack Review") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHKhBHwrsUo) Does that look like a hacker? Because it looks like cherry picked mediocre single-double kills while someone pimps a sham product. But that’s just me… ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/76 "2019-02-04T15:18:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > @logtrall, is it cheating or not? No, you can essentially do the same thing with your hands. It literally translates and emulates button presses into keystrokes or other inputs. Like that recoil control, it’s definitely possible on controllers and you see pro players doing it all the time in various fps games, but it’s not universal for all weapons, especially in BF or Cod where weapons have highly varying recoil patterns. Literally all the Chronus Max is emulating in that “mod” is slightly pulling down the right analog stick. ---
**Author:** ![WhiteRabbit\_swe](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/4da419/32.png) [@WhiteRabbit\_swe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WhiteRabbit_swe)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/77 "2019-02-04T15:19:00Z")
> [@EvilGoat\_51](#): > > Never seen a hacker on console. > > @OP Do you have footage of this? 37-1 is not a unrealistic score, it’s good, but not hacker good. I have gone 35-2 in low player count conquest before. > > Anyone who claims there is a hacker on console **needs to get footage of it**. > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > What folks here seem to misunderstand, coming from the PC world, is that the only way you can “cheat”, is by 'hacking". That is a blatantly false on consoles. There is no challenge could made on that fact. > > > > Cronusmax and other devices have rapid reload speeds, stick aim, rapid fire, and before you know it, your Geweher is an smg, and with relatively no reload times. Same with bolt actions. > > > > So, to the OP, politely ignore folks who do not know consoles or what they’re talking about. You are correct. The best thing i could tell you to do, is make a vid of the cheater, and send it to Xbox as Spartan mentioned.. > > I wouldn’t buy into what they say the Cronusmax does. Go find a legitimate source that says that the hacks work. Until then, it is sham. It would had been 37-0 if I hadnt killed him one time… He was running all over the map, and killing like there was no tomorrow… No, I realized he was cheating 3/4 into the round, and was so shocked by it, that I never even thought of recording it… But even if I did, I cannot post it here anyway, its against the rules… I took a screenshot of his score tho at end of the round so I remeber his name, I will report this guy! ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/78 "2019-02-04T15:22:00Z")
I’m personally waiting for the Mod, Loqtrall, and/or EA/DICE to let us know if we can use Cronus, being folks are saying we can already do what it does with our own hands, in that because it’s not hacking, it’s not cheating and the rest. ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/79 "2019-02-04T15:25:00Z")
> [@WhiteRabbit\_swe](#): > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > If what was posted above with Cronus, is NOT cheating, i would appreciate if the Moderator and /or DICE says so, gives me permission, and i’ll use it. Lets end this argument one way or another. If it’s not cheating,and that there is no cheating or way you can on consoles, i’m using it. > > If cronus not cheating, I will start using it too, that anti recoil was insane… Right, well there’s your answer. Yes they are cheating, but if these know it alls are saying it’s not, lets get the word, i already have the device, and i’m using it. So far i only use it for my 360 controller on my PS4 playing the sp stuff like The Show. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/80 "2019-02-04T15:31:00Z")
By that logic you would have to call controllers with paddles “cheating” because normal controllers don’t come with them and they allow players to jump, reload, or whatever they like without removing thier thumb from the right stick. Despite the fact that Microsoft themselves develop high price controllers WITH those paddles. Then again, just as the actions the cronusmax emulates, a ton of players have been doing that by using the “claw” technique on normal controllers for nearly two decades. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501.md?page=3) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501.md?page=5)