# There are indeed cheaters on console in this game! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 4, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501 "2019-02-04T13:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/ce7236/32.png) [@VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VincentNZ)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/81 "2019-02-04T15:35:00Z")
That debate is just the same as with macros on PC. Essentially these are macros, where you are automating your actions on your input device to achieve consistency. You will notice this more with a controller because it is not a good input device for FPS. Does EA consider macros as cheating? Yes they do. Would the gaming experience be better without these products? Yes? However, technically things like TS or a chat macro are then cheats as well. Also how is EA/DICE going to detect these things? I do not see how they can scan for mouse or keyboard macros in their game without spying through Origin. I do not even think they can detect people using the low graphic settings. it is probably the same on console. How can you detect something that has been plugged into your USB port and can also be used for legitimate reasons? ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/82 "2019-02-04T15:36:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > @logtrall, is it cheating or not? > > No, you can essentially do the same thing with your hands. It literally translates and emulates button presses into keystrokes or other inputs. Like that recoil control, it’s definitely possible on controllers and you see pro players doing it all the time in various fps games, but it’s not universal for all weapons, especially in BF or Cod where weapons have highly varying recoil patterns. > > Literally all the Chronus Max is emulating in that “mod” is slightly pulling down the right analog stick. Oh ok, so you’re saying we can use it, and that it’s not all cheating. I mean i’m 53, i don’t have the eye/hand coordination for these twitchers. Now all we need is official word from DICE via the moderator or whomever, and my days of camping on this game, are long over. I got my steady aim, fast recoil, my geweher macnine rapid fire, and auto spot on a game i cant see anyone. So, give me the word, and i’m there. ---
**Author:** ![DCSTomcat](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dcstomcat/32/101664_2.png) [@DCSTomcat](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DCSTomcat)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/83 "2019-02-04T15:36:00Z")
Of course mods would say it’s not allowed just like they had said (M word) are not allowed. If you want to use it, keep it quiet. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/84 "2019-02-04T15:41:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > > > @logtrall, is it cheating or not? > > > > No, you can essentially do the same thing with your hands. It literally translates and emulates button presses into keystrokes or other inputs. Like that recoil control, it’s definitely possible on controllers and you see pro players doing it all the time in various fps games, but it’s not universal for all weapons, especially in BF or Cod where weapons have highly varying recoil patterns. > > > > Literally all the Chronus Max is emulating in that “mod” is slightly pulling down the right analog stick. > > Oh ok, so you’re saying we can use it, and that it’s not all cheating. I mean i’m 53, i don’t have the eye/hand coordination for these twitchers. > > Now all we need is official word from DICE via the moderator or whomever, and my days of camping on this game, are long over. I got my steady aim, fast recoil, my geweher macnine rapid fire, and auto spot on a game i cant see anyone. So, give me the word, and i’m there. I’m just saying, even if a moderator responded to you, they’re just volunteers that were mostly just former normal forum members. They don’t actually work for or represent DICE. You’d be hard pressed to get a response from devs unless you ask them directly on Twitter. As for me, I hardly consider a macro that fires a semi auto weapon as fast as it can be fired a “cheat” when you can literally do the same thing with your hand by pulling the trigger as fast as possible. Not to mention a ton of semi autos in fps games are worthless outside of point blank range when used at thier highest rof. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/85 "2019-02-04T15:44:00Z")
Personally speaking, I would not consider it to be cheating. It is a gray area though, since there are things you can do with peripherals that you otherwise would not be able to do ( e.g rapid fire ). The counter argument though is that those peripherals are available to buy from any decent brick and mortar store ( physical stores ) and of course through the company’s own vendor website store pages. But again, those devices wont make you better nor will it turn you into a modern day Rambo going 70-1 ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/86 "2019-02-04T15:45:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > > > > > @logtrall, is it cheating or not? > > > > > > No, you can essentially do the same thing with your hands. It literally translates and emulates button presses into keystrokes or other inputs. Like that recoil control, it’s definitely possible on controllers and you see pro players doing it all the time in various fps games, but it’s not universal for all weapons, especially in BF or Cod where weapons have highly varying recoil patterns. > > > > > > Literally all the Chronus Max is emulating in that “mod” is slightly pulling down the right analog stick. > > > > Oh ok, so you’re saying we can use it, and that it’s not all cheating. I mean i’m 53, i don’t have the eye/hand coordination for these twitchers. > > > > Now all we need is official word from DICE via the moderator or whomever, and my days of camping on this game, are long over. I got my steady aim, fast recoil, my geweher macnine rapid fire, and auto spot on a game i cant see anyone. So, give me the word, and i’m there. > > I’m just saying, even if a moderator responded to you, they’re just volunteers that were mostly just former normal forum members. They don’t actually work for or represent DICE. You’d be hard pressed to get a response from devs unless you ask them directly on Twitter. > > As for me, I hardly consider a macro that fires a semi auto weapon as fast as it can be fired a “cheat” when you can literally do the same thing with your hand by pulling the trigger as fast as possible. Not to mention a ton of semi autos in fps games are worthless outside of point blank range when used at thier highest rof. And so, i should take your word i;'s not cheating, when the vids show it is? I mean, who am i to say? But the Moderators work for DICE, and if they give permission, and i use it, and i get banned when you’re saying it’s not cheating, i need an authority to come back too. But somehow idt they or DICE are gonna give me permission, being it IS CHEATING, no matter how you want to tell us it’s not. You were WRONG, and it’s not the first time with you btw. ---
**Author:** ![DaMutha1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/damutha1/32/101615_2.png) [@DaMutha1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DaMutha1)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/87 "2019-02-04T15:45:00Z")
Regarding being shot through a concrete wall, I’d put my money on a Dice glitch instead of a console hack. There were glitches identified late in BF1’s life where you could shoot through stone walls and staircases. ---
**Author:** ![spartanx169x](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@spartanx169x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/spartanx169x)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/88 "2019-02-04T15:50:00Z")
> [@VincentNZ](#): > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > > [@CHAMMOND1992](#): > > > > > > lol You can’t hack another game with a developers kit. > > > > > > Either way I don’t see this as a big deal. Either you were mistaken, or he was cheating, and he’s one of the first able to hack xboxone and bypass security measures online which is just unlikely. > > > > Do you know what Cronusmax is? You’re not getting into the system, you’re using a USB and downloading content from the computer, and getting the fast reload having a bolt action fire like a semi auto, and having your Gewehr fire like a machine gun. As well as stick aim.That’s not cheating? > > That is using the shortcomings of the controller as an input device though. Also that is why rpm in this game on semi-auto is locked at 449rpm. You still can not alter anything that is not already in this game. For that you would have to modify the code itself, which is not possible on console. There is an article from the site”attackofthefanboy” from about a year ago claiming the Xbox has indeed been hacked. This could be evidence of it. ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/89 "2019-02-04T15:53:00Z")
> [@LOLGotYerTags](#): > > Personally speaking, I would not consider it to be cheating. > > It is a gray area though, since there are things you can do with peripherals that you otherwise would not be able to do ( e.g rapid fire ). > > The counter argument though is that those peripherals are available to buy from any decent brick and mortar store ( physical stores ) and of course through the company’s own vendor website store pages. > > But again, those devices wont make you better nor will it turn you into a modern day Rambo going 70-1 Well, your second sentence, is the whole argument lol. The purpose of it, is to go beyond the peripherals. And will i go 70/1 with that thing? Well, if i camp like i am, with that device and what it provides, i can certainly do better than my current 12/5 lol. I’d just camp, auto spot with my non scoped bolt action with almost no recoil, and just keep popping them. So, i just need word, that like what everyone says, that it’s not cheating, and lets get this done. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/90 "2019-02-04T15:57:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > But the Moderators work for DICE, and if they give permission, and i use it, and i get banned when you’re saying it’s not cheating, i need an authority to come back too. Really, We don’t work for EA nor DICE. We have regular contact with EA but in the grand scheme of things, I really don’t believe Microsoft or Sony would permit the developers of the devices to make and sell them if they would be considered to be cheating. ---
**Author:** ![DCSTomcat](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dcstomcat/32/101664_2.png) [@DCSTomcat](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DCSTomcat)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/91 "2019-02-04T16:01:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > [@LOLGotYerTags](#): > > > > Personally speaking, I would not consider it to be cheating. > > > > It is a gray area though, since there are things you can do with peripherals that you otherwise would not be able to do ( e.g rapid fire ). > > > > The counter argument though is that those peripherals are available to buy from any decent brick and mortar store ( physical stores ) and of course through the company’s own vendor website store pages. > > > > But again, those devices wont make you better nor will it turn you into a modern day Rambo going 70-1 > > Well, your second sentence, is the whole argument lol. The purpose of it, is to go beyond the peripherals. And will i go 70/1 with that thing? Well, if i camp like i am, with that device and what it provides, i can certainly do better than my current 12/5 lol. I’d just camp, auto spot with my non scoped bolt action with almost no recoil, and just keep popping them. So, i just need word, that like what everyone says, that it’s not cheating, and lets get this done. An anti-recoil script is not allowed. It violates EA’s ToS, see this thread: forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/176304/if-i-use-the-script-macro-of-logitech-software-i-wii-ban-or-not Cronusmax allows you run scripts, the device itself is just a electronic device, how you use it makes the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/92 "2019-02-04T16:03:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > > > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > > > > > > > @logtrall, is it cheating or not? > > > > > > > > No, you can essentially do the same thing with your hands. It literally translates and emulates button presses into keystrokes or other inputs. Like that recoil control, it’s definitely possible on controllers and you see pro players doing it all the time in various fps games, but it’s not universal for all weapons, especially in BF or Cod where weapons have highly varying recoil patterns. > > > > > > > > Literally all the Chronus Max is emulating in that “mod” is slightly pulling down the right analog stick. > > > > > > Oh ok, so you’re saying we can use it, and that it’s not all cheating. I mean i’m 53, i don’t have the eye/hand coordination for these twitchers. > > > > > > Now all we need is official word from DICE via the moderator or whomever, and my days of camping on this game, are long over. I got my steady aim, fast recoil, my geweher macnine rapid fire, and auto spot on a game i cant see anyone. So, give me the word, and i’m there. > > > > I’m just saying, even if a moderator responded to you, they’re just volunteers that were mostly just former normal forum members. They don’t actually work for or represent DICE. You’d be hard pressed to get a response from devs unless you ask them directly on Twitter. > > > > As for me, I hardly consider a macro that fires a semi auto weapon as fast as it can be fired a “cheat” when you can literally do the same thing with your hand by pulling the trigger as fast as possible. Not to mention a ton of semi autos in fps games are worthless outside of point blank range when used at thier highest rof. > > And so, i should take your word i;'s not cheating, when the vids show it is? I mean, who am i to say? > > But the Moderators work for DICE, and if they give permission, and i use it, and i get banned when you’re saying it’s not cheating, i need an authority to come back too. But somehow idt they or DICE are gonna give me permission, being it IS CHEATING, no matter how you want to tell us it’s not. You were WRONG, and it’s not the first time with you btw. No, if you want an answer from the devs you should ask them. If you don’t want to take my word, I couldn’t care less. And the mods don’t work for dice, a lot of them are volunteers, it’s not a paid position. Only the EA mods with EA next to thier name actually work for EA or DICE. Thier views on it are personal just like anyone else’s. Asking a dev like David Sirland or Drunkkz on Twitter would be the best course of action. ---
**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/93 "2019-02-04T16:06:00Z")
> [@DaMutha1](#): > > Regarding being shot through a concrete wall, I’d put my money on a Dice glitch instead of a console hack. There were glitches identified late in BF1’s life where you could shoot through stone walls and staircases. Dat netcode ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/94 "2019-02-04T16:06:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > [@LOLGotYerTags](#): > > > > Personally speaking, I would not consider it to be cheating. > > > > It is a gray area though, since there are things you can do with peripherals that you otherwise would not be able to do ( e.g rapid fire ). > > > > The counter argument though is that those peripherals are available to buy from any decent brick and mortar store ( physical stores ) and of course through the company’s own vendor website store pages. > > > > But again, those devices wont make you better nor will it turn you into a modern day Rambo going 70-1 > > Well, your second sentence, is the whole argument lol. The purpose of it, is to go beyond the peripherals. And will i go 70/1 with that thing? Well, if i camp like i am, with that device and what it provides, i can certainly do better than my current 12/5 lol. I’d just camp, auto spot with my non scoped bolt action with almost no recoil, and just keep popping them. So, i just need word, that like what everyone says, that it’s not cheating, and lets get this done. That’s why I say it’s a gray area. There are some features that you could view as cheating, or at least making something that should be difficult to do, be relatively easy to do. But then if you have good reflexes you can do literally what the cronus max does ( rapid fire if your reflexes are on point ). It’s entirely subjective imho. If a 54 year old with poor reflexes uses it, then the argument they could make is that it ensures they’re able to compete better against a younger generation of gamer who DO have better reflexes, So in that example it is levelling the playing field for that user. I could argue that users using a controller on racing games are “cheating” whereas I would use a wheel and pedals to get the benefit of the whole experience, The controller user would have better mobility due to the sticks and all the buttons in approximate reach, Whereas I would have to work the pedals, shift gears with the stick shifter AND use my upper body to turn the wheel. It can be cheating and it also can’t be cheating, depending on what side of the fence you’re sat on. ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/95 "2019-02-04T16:14:00Z")
Well, my comment now has to be “approved”. Don’t know why, so pardon the repeat if it is. But Microsoft or Sony cannot ban a product that is not sold for cheating purposes. As i said, i use it on my PS4 with my 360 controller to play sp games. It’s actually an amazing device. However, it obviously can be used for it, and is. However, if it’s not, and arguments claiming “unless it’s hacking, it’s not cheating” as many are saying, and my rapid fire, auto spot, and no recoil is not cheating, i think we need to hear from the authorities on the matter, because it IS happening, and probably a lot, being the device costs less than a controller. So, maybe reaching out to DICE on this matter may be appropriate, and not listening to folks from PC Land who may not have a clue. ---
**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/96 "2019-02-04T16:17:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > Well, my comment now has to be “approved”. Don’t know why, so pardon the repeat if it is. Generally that forum bug happens when you edit a comment too quickly after posting. If you tag a mod they will be able to restore it. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/97 "2019-02-04T16:22:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > So, maybe reaching out to DICE on this matter may be appropriate, and not listening to folks from PC Land who may not have a clue. PC users aren’t necessarily 100% PC only, The fact that their bf games listed on their accounts are for PC only doesnt mean they dont play other genres on consoles, So probably not a good idea to assume. ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/98 "2019-02-04T16:23:00Z")
> [@DCSTomcat](#): > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > > [@LOLGotYerTags](#): > > > > > > Personally speaking, I would not consider it to be cheating. > > > > > > It is a gray area though, since there are things you can do with peripherals that you otherwise would not be able to do ( e.g rapid fire ). > > > > > > The counter argument though is that those peripherals are available to buy from any decent brick and mortar store ( physical stores ) and of course through the company’s own vendor website store pages. > > > > > > But again, those devices wont make you better nor will it turn you into a modern day Rambo going 70-1 > > > > Well, your second sentence, is the whole argument lol. The purpose of it, is to go beyond the peripherals. And will i go 70/1 with that thing? Well, if i camp like i am, with that device and what it provides, i can certainly do better than my current 12/5 lol. I’d just camp, auto spot with my non scoped bolt action with almost no recoil, and just keep popping them. So, i just need word, that like what everyone says, that it’s not cheating, and lets get this done. > > An anti-recoil script is not allowed. It violates EA’s ToS, see this thread: > forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/176304/if-i-use-the-script-macro-of-logitech-software-i-wii-ban-or-not > > Cronusmax allows you run scripts, the device itself is just a electronic device, how you use it makes the difference. AH. So it IS cheating. So why are these folks saying it’s not. So, we’re back to square one. It’s not something your own hand can do (i knew all this btw, being i own it, which is why i SAID it lol). What nonsense. OP, there is obvious cheating on consoles. Do NOT listen to those who say there’s not. They’'re totally full of it. Lets move on. ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/99 "2019-02-04T16:30:00Z")
> [@LOLGotYerTags](#): > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > So, maybe reaching out to DICE on this matter may be appropriate, and not listening to folks from PC Land who may not have a clue. > > PC users aren’t necessarily 100% PC only, The fact that their bf games listed on their accounts are for PC only doesnt mean they dont play other genres on consoles, So probably not a good idea to assume. Well, not on this page they didn’t know what they were saying. They were wrong. It is cheating as established by the thread provided. Thank you for your participation in our discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Jedi76](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jedi76/32/102382_2.png) [@Jedi76](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jedi76)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/100 "2019-02-04T16:34:00Z")
I think there is a problem at “C” on Aerodrome. I have seen guys in the wall on the upper level walkway inside the hangar (Just their gun barrel sticking out through the wall). They can shoot into the hangar from where they are, but you can’t shoot them back with regular bullets, you have to dynamite or PIAT them. I think it is an exploit, or an area of the map where players can get to that DICE never intended. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501.md?page=4) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501.md?page=6)