# There are indeed cheaters on console in this game! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 4, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501 "2019-02-04T13:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/121 "2019-02-05T12:54:00Z")
> [@EvilGoat\_51](#): > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > > There are indeed not cheaters on consoles because neither console will run a game at all if it has any modified portion compared to the actual release game, let alone allow you to run said modified games in an online environment. > > > > > > If there’s one thing Microsoft and Sony seem to have learned from the last gen of consoles, it’s uniformity and hacker prevention. > > > > You’re saying there is no cheating on consoles? > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqx0w-5NlM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqx0w-5NlM) > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M84P-MR1KA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M84P-MR1KA) > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsO520XpO08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsO520XpO08) > > > > Rapid reload. Rapid Fire. Auto Spot. > > > > That’s not cheating? > > Recoil control and having a good trigger finger is not hard. > > Watch his full review, pay close attention to any “killstreaks” and the footage in general. > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHKhBHwrsUo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHKhBHwrsUo) > > Does that look like a hacker? It looks like a cheater. No doubt about that. We’re talking about cheating on consoles, not hackers. You can obviously cheat w/o hacking. That’s the point of OP. If it’s not cheating, we want to know, in so we can use it. I’m 53, my eye/hand ain’t what it used to be. So let us know if we can use it. ---
**Author:** ![Jamesonoid](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jamesonoid/32/106799_2.png) [@Jamesonoid](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jamesonoid)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/122 "2019-02-05T12:54:00Z")
> [@WhiteRabbit\_swe](#): > > > [@EvilGoat\_51](#): > > > > Never seen a hacker on console. > > > > @OP Do you have footage of this? 37-1 is not a unrealistic score, it’s good, but not hacker good. I have gone 35-2 in low player count conquest before. > > > > Anyone who claims there is a hacker on console **needs to get footage of it**. > > > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > > > What folks here seem to misunderstand, coming from the PC world, is that the only way you can “cheat”, is by 'hacking". That is a blatantly false on consoles. There is no challenge could made on that fact. > > > > > > Cronusmax and other devices have rapid reload speeds, stick aim, rapid fire, and before you know it, your Geweher is an smg, and with relatively no reload times. Same with bolt actions. > > > > > > So, to the OP, politely ignore folks who do not know consoles or what they’re talking about. You are correct. The best thing i could tell you to do, is make a vid of the cheater, and send it to Xbox as Spartan mentioned.. > > > > I wouldn’t buy into what they say the Cronusmax does. Go find a legitimate source that says that the hacks work. Until then, it is sham. > > It would had been 37-0 if I hadnt killed him one time… He was running all over the map, and killing like there was no tomorrow… > > No, I realized he was cheating 3/4 into the round, and was so shocked by it, that I never even thought of recording it… > > But even if I did, I cannot post it here anyway, its against the rules… > > I took a screenshot of his score tho at end of the round so I remeber his name, I will report this guy! His score doesn’t indicate he was cheating, like I said, I went 35-2 killing like there is no tomorrow, does that make me a cheater? Can you private message me his name? I’d like to see his stats. Edit to add; this post is a couple days old and was waiting to be “approved” my next post is also needs approval. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/123 "2019-02-05T13:02:00Z")
> [@parkingbrake](#): > > > [@TEKNOCODE](#): > > > > Can’t cheat on console, at least on Xbox. The console is bricked as soon as it goes online. > > You can buy modified console controllers with built-in cheat macros, they aren’t underground products either, they’re sold by major retailers. Cheats on current generation consoles might not be anything like the hacks on PC, but that isn’t to say there is no cheating on consoles. The closest I’d say modded controllers come to cheating is recoil comp. And that solely emulates slightly pulling down on the right stick, and is NOT universal and has to be adjusted based on every weapon you use because in 99.99999% of shooters, every weapon has clearly different recoil and spread values. For instance, anti recoil set up for the Mp40 in this game would not work for the FG42. The FG42 has significantly more recoil. Hell, if you switch to your sidearm it will pull it down every time you pull the trigger because of that mod. This function is not one you can just press a button to turn on and it be effective. Other functions of modded controllers and inputs do nothing but emulate controller functions that are BLATANTLY and easily achievable without said mods. Like firing your semi auto weapon as fast as it can be fired. Rapid fire has literally no advantage because, again, 99.9% of weapons in fps games have fixed rates of fire that can’t be surpassed. Like I said earlier, I’d compare it to modified editions of default controllers that come with paddles on the bottom. By default you’d have to consider that cheating because normal controllers don’t have them, and they allow people to melee, jump, reload, crouch, etc without taking thier thumb off of the stick they use to aim. Microsoft has started selling such controllers for xbone, and have even developed native keyboard and mouse support at the developers discretion. These modified devices do not automatically give you an advantage over other players or artificially increase your skill level instantaneously. Just as a Xim Apex doesn’t magically make you master marksman just because you can use a mouse now. Whereas legitimate cheat software does. It aims for you, allows you to see enemy positions through solid objects, allows you to run THROUGH solid objects, allows you to run 10x the normal running speed, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Catsonspeeed](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/catsonspeeed/32/105521_2.png) [@Catsonspeeed](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Catsonspeeed)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/124 "2019-02-05T13:33:00Z")
I have a proposal to all of you claiming that using Xim Apex, Chronus Max etc. on consoles isn’t cheating. Let’s take a bet. 1000$. 1 on 1 on empty server, best of 10. You use the regular controller, and I use Xim, Chronus, or whatever I choose fit. Would you accept that bet? ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/125 "2019-02-05T13:36:00Z")
> [@Catsonspeeed](#): > > I have a proposal to all of you claiming that using Xim Apex, Chronus Max etc. on consoles isn’t cheating. > > Let’s take a bet. 1000$. 1 on 1 on empty server, best of 10. You use the regular controller, and I use Xim, Chronus, or whatever I choose fit. Would you accept that bet? Yep. ---
**Author:** ![Catsonspeeed](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/catsonspeeed/32/105521_2.png) [@Catsonspeeed](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Catsonspeeed)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/126 "2019-02-05T13:40:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@Catsonspeeed](#): > > > > I have a proposal to all of you claiming that using Xim Apex, Chronus Max etc. on consoles isn’t cheating. > > > > Let’s take a bet. 1000$. 1 on 1 on empty server, best of 10. You use the regular controller, and I use Xim, Chronus, or whatever I choose fit. Would you accept that bet? > > Yep. You must be either superb player, filthy rich, or both. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/127 "2019-02-05T13:41:00Z")
> [@Catsonspeeed](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@Catsonspeeed](#): > > > > > > I have a proposal to all of you claiming that using Xim Apex, Chronus Max etc. on consoles isn’t cheating. > > > > > > Let’s take a bet. 1000$. 1 on 1 on empty server, best of 10. You use the regular controller, and I use Xim, Chronus, or whatever I choose fit. Would you accept that bet? > > > > Yep. > > You must be either superb player, filthy rich, or both. Nah I compared our stats and I just think I could take you. ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Pungspark](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Major\_Pungspark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Major_Pungspark)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/128 "2019-02-05T13:41:00Z")
Cheating is cheating, there are no grading system about it because one sort is worse than the other. All cheaters should be banned, but of course that dont happen. They should all burn in hell…or at least have their account banned… ---
**Author:** ![warslag](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/warslag/32/101053_2.png) [@warslag](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/warslag)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/129 "2019-02-05T14:02:00Z")
Some people seem to have a warped idea of what constitutes cheating. I think cheating is a serious issues that causes players a huge amount of stress and affects mental health. It should be taken more seriously than this. ---
**Author:** ![VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/dec6dc/32.png) [@VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VOLBANKER)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/130 "2019-02-05T15:49:00Z")
> [@warslag](#): > > I think cheating is a serious issues that causes players a huge amount of stress and affects mental health. That is a bit extreme…stress, sure, as in annoyance and frustration, but if it affects one’s mental health, I’d say you need to take a break. It IS only a game, after all. It’s not like your score or KD matters one bit in the large scheme of life 😄 ---
**Author:** ![VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/dec6dc/32.png) [@VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VOLBANKER)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/131 "2019-02-05T15:51:00Z")
> [@Catsonspeeed](#): > > I have a proposal to all of you claiming that using Xim Apex, Chronus Max etc. on consoles isn’t cheating. > > Let’s take a bet. 1000$. 1 on 1 on empty server, best of 10. You use the regular controller, and I use Xim, Chronus, or whatever I choose fit. Would you accept that bet? I’ve got $1000 that says I can take that bet with _anyone_ and lose - regardless of which of the controllers I get to use! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![warslag](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/warslag/32/101053_2.png) [@warslag](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/warslag)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/132 "2019-02-05T15:54:00Z")
> [@VOLBANKER](#): > > > [@warslag](#): > > > > I think cheating is a serious issues that causes players a huge amount of stress and affects mental health. > > That is a bit extreme…stress, sure, as in annoyance and frustration, but if it affects one’s mental health, I’d say you need to take a break. It IS only a game, after all. It’s not like your score or KD matters one bit in the large scheme of life 😄 That is the worst response to a mental health issue. It’s like saying “you’re just imagining things”. ---
**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/133 "2019-02-05T15:55:00Z")
> [@warslag](#): > > > [@VOLBANKER](#): > > > > > [@warslag](#): > > > > > > I think cheating is a serious issues that causes players a huge amount of stress and affects mental health. > > > > That is a bit extreme…stress, sure, as in annoyance and frustration, but if it affects one’s mental health, I’d say you need to take a break. It IS only a game, after all. It’s not like your score or KD matters one bit in the large scheme of life 😄 > > That is the worst response to a mental health issue. > > It’s like saying “you’re just imagining things”. Mental heath is a serious issue. That said, he is right. Video games are entertainment. If it’s causing mental issues for you, stop f’n playing. ---
**Author:** ![EA\_Rtas](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ea_rtas/32/101818_2.png) [@EA\_Rtas](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EA_Rtas)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/134 "2019-02-05T17:04:00Z")
Alright folks, we’re not really here to discuss mental health issues, can we please bring the thread back on topic otherwise I’m going to lock the thread. The forums really aren’t the place to debate these kinds of issues. ---
**Author:** ![Jamesonoid](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jamesonoid/32/106799_2.png) [@Jamesonoid](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jamesonoid)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/135 "2019-02-05T17:17:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > [@EvilGoat\_51](#): > > > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > > > > There are indeed not cheaters on consoles because neither console will run a game at all if it has any modified portion compared to the actual release game, let alone allow you to run said modified games in an online environment. > > > > > > > > If there’s one thing Microsoft and Sony seem to have learned from the last gen of consoles, it’s uniformity and hacker prevention. > > > > > > You’re saying there is no cheating on consoles? > > > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqx0w-5NlM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqx0w-5NlM) > > > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M84P-MR1KA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M84P-MR1KA) > > > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsO520XpO08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsO520XpO08) > > > > > > Rapid reload. Rapid Fire. Auto Spot. > > > > > > That’s not cheating? > > > > Recoil control and having a good trigger finger is not hard. > > > > Watch his full review, pay close attention to any “killstreaks” and the footage in general. > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHKhBHwrsUo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHKhBHwrsUo) > > > > Does that look like a hacker? > > It looks like a cheater. No doubt about that. We’re talking about cheating on consoles, not hackers. You can obviously cheat w/o hacking. That’s the point of OP. If it’s not cheating, we want to know, in so we can use it. I’m 53, my eye/hand ain’t what it used to be. So let us know if we can use it. I used cheater and hacker interchangeably and haven’t paid attention to the differences. My bad for any misunderstanding, so lets go with cheater. “So let us know if we can use it.” You’re not going to get an legitimate answer here. But because some of the selling points of the Cronus is its “stealth technology” and “100% undetectable” it’s probably against some rules somewhere. My point is that people bring up the Cronusmax and state what it claims it can do and how unfair it is. Regardless what you think of it (I think it’s unfair) my question is, does it actually work? If you watch his footage, besides from the Lewis gun anti recoil clip and auto spot, do you see anything that would indicate he is cheating? Because his multiplayer footage is mediocre at best and if that is with the Cronus working then he sure as hell needs it. You don’t see him do anything impressive or impossible, it’s mostly single or double kills. Most of what the Cronus “does” can be done with skill. Recoil control and having a good trigger finger is not impossible. I’m not saying that to justify the Cronus, but in that people who look like they are cheating may just be skilled. I’m not saying this to start an argument or brag, but I have been reported for cheating 26 times. On one occasion in BF1 I was using a horse, and was killing a group of players repeatable. They would attempt to AT grenade/rocket gun me and get close but would not kill me. After killing them I would drop a health pack, because the horse has those, but they didn’t know this. So when I came back around on 100% health, they didn’t understand why. It’s easy to call someone a cheater when you don’t understand how and why something is happening. At this point, we still haven’t seen any proof of cheaters. ---
**Author:** ![VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/ce7236/32.png) [@VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VincentNZ)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/136 "2019-02-05T17:19:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > [@VincentNZ](#): > > > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > > > > [@CHAMMOND1992](#): > > > > > > > > lol You can’t hack another game with a developers kit. > > > > > > > > Either way I don’t see this as a big deal. Either you were mistaken, or he was cheating, and he’s one of the first able to hack xboxone and bypass security measures online which is just unlikely. > > > > > > Do you know what Cronusmax is? You’re not getting into the system, you’re using a USB and downloading content from the computer, and getting the fast reload having a bolt action fire like a semi auto, and having your Gewehr fire like a machine gun. As well as stick aim.That’s not cheating? > > > > That is using the shortcomings of the controller as an input device though. Also that is why rpm in this game on semi-auto is locked at 449rpm. You still can not alter anything that is not already in this game. For that you would have to modify the code itself, which is not possible on console. > > The OP is saying there are cheaters. There ARE cheaters on consoles…no question at all, and i mentioned some. Yeah and I said that the words he throws around like wallhacks and aimbots are not possible on consoles. What the thread then refers too are 3rd party hardware assets that have, as with the PC, legitimate uses, but can also be used to gain advantages in games that can appear as cheating. Just like on PC, where players draw the line, or if any developer can even detect these things. ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/137 "2019-02-05T17:20:00Z")
> [@CracKxEm](#): > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > If what was posted above with Cronus, is NOT cheating, i would appreciate if the Moderator and /or DICE says so, gives me permission, and i’ll use it. Lets end this argument one way or another. If it’s not cheating,and that there is no cheating or way you can on consoles, i’m using it. > > its not cheating…stupid. > call it what it is…Scripting… > and you can use it, if DICE/EA hasnt utilized Microsoft’s built in ability to detect and block any hardware when starting said developers(DICE) app/servicet/ect in this case BF:V. > > if you can start the game, any your xbox still think your XIM, Chronus, Titan or whatever… then EA/DICE is allowing you too use the device… > > for your information i know for a fact DICE knows what chronus is your not bringing anything new up. > > Also ps4 players have the capability (while play online), for anyone to use KB&M, even in BFV, but your can also inject software while running apps, thus anyone with knowledge could theoretically, use Trainers, Bots, Change Gamefiles (runspeed, reload, charater, height, anything not server-sided…) > again whilst online… Oh this one i like out of all of them. “DICE, my no recoil, machine gun M1 Carbine, and Auto Spotting aren’t Cheating…It’s Scripting”…LOL. Wonder what they’d say to that. Anyhow, the good thing that came out of this thread, is we now know (and should have already known), is that there is cheating on consoles. I couldn’t believe folks didn’t think that was the case…until i came here. I think the disconnect was those that thought, if you couldn’t “hack” per se, that means you can’t cheat. That’s obviously not the case. There’s many other ways, and devices to cheat. Anyhow, DICE should really look into console cheating, because i would say as cheap as these devices are, it’s probably a bigger problem than we may think. ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/138 "2019-02-05T17:21:00Z")
> [@warslag](#): > > Some people seem to have a warped idea of what constitutes cheating. > > I think cheating is a serious issues that causes players a huge amount of stress and affects mental health. It should be taken more seriously than this. Personally, i was a bit taken back seeing folks didn’t believe modded controllers, and even cheating devices with aim lock, and rapid fire, and stick aim and the rest, is NOT cheating lol. I have to say, this is the only outlet i’ve ever heard that. But it could explain why this game gets to the point of unplayable, if many are using these devices, thinking it’s not cheating. And they’re still at it. Shocks the conscience actually, but does answer a lot of questions . Seems the only way you can cheat according to these comments, is to hack the whole system with a computer lol. ---
**Author:** ![Vinicarioca](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Vinicarioca](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Vinicarioca)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/139 "2019-02-05T18:12:00Z")
A squad of friends tried to use this chronosmax… Lol… they pratically win the game alone. The 4 players hit up the top scoreboards… with 60+ kill No recoil, max rof on semi autos, damm… so unfair. A good player play like a pro. It’s not cheating? ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Pungspark](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Major\_Pungspark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Major_Pungspark)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501/140 "2019-02-05T18:18:00Z")
> [@Vinicarioca](#): > > A squad of friends tried to use this chronosmax… > > Lol… they pratically win the game alone. The 4 players hit up the top scoreboards… with 60+ kill > > No recoil, max rof on semi autos, damm… so unfair. > > A good player play like a pro. > > It’s not cheating? Of course it is cheating, just like on PC when you see someone running around with a semi and you think directly, “yay, I wonder it this is a max rpm one without recoil or one that behaves as mine.” [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501.md?page=6) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/there-are-indeed-cheaters-on-console-in-this-game/106501.md?page=8)